Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 June 2020, 06:47:35
Thoughts ?
Thrown out all the teflon cookware ?
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Post by: captain on Fri, 05 June 2020, 06:48:35
But I do prefer this newfangled hexaclad stuff, supposedly stainless steel coated with some kind of corundum.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 June 2020, 06:57:37
Post by: captain on Fri, 05 June 2020, 11:05:07
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Post by: captain on Fri, 05 June 2020, 11:25:23
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20010718/brought-home-bacon-dont-fry-up-in-nonstick-pan
But no PFOA
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/what-is-pfoa
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Post by: Lanrefni on Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:02:35
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 05 June 2020, 15:48:31
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 05 June 2020, 16:25:02
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 June 2020, 16:32:55
Non stick pans are a gimmick and they never last,my 120 year old cast iron however is still perfect for frying eggs.
/Cholesterolo
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 June 2020, 16:33:36
Teflon pans are **** and always end up scratched. But I always wind up buying them anyway because they are the cheapest. Cheapest for a reason.
Any name brand cookware <even teflon> are pretty xpensive.
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 05 June 2020, 16:57:40
Teflon pans are **** and always end up scratched. But I always wind up buying them anyway because they are the cheapest. Cheapest for a reason.
Any name brand cookware <even teflon> are pretty xpensive.
The thing is what the teflon is spread onto doesn't matter, so you are paying more for nothing really. It's like putting a Fiesta engine in a Lambo when companies cover a nice pan w/ teflon.
Post by: phinix on Fri, 05 June 2020, 18:46:33
I would love to change this to some other material cookware, if someone could suggest - perfect wok?
Ceramic?
Cast iron?
Post by: captain on Fri, 05 June 2020, 18:51:02
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Post by: captain on Fri, 05 June 2020, 18:52:05
I have all teflon pans etcPerfect wok is a wok. The thin sheet metal, cheap, stuff the Chinese have been cooking on for millennia.
I would love to change this to some other material cookware, if someone could suggest - perfect wok?
Ceramic?
Cast iron?
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Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 05 June 2020, 19:18:13
I have all teflon pans etc
I would love to change this to some other material cookware, if someone could suggest - perfect wok?
Ceramic?
Cast iron?
Ceramic coated cast iron IMO is the best. You get all the benefits of both cast iron and teflon. They also cost much more, but generally you pay for quality. Can't go wrong with a Le Creuset.
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 05 June 2020, 21:09:37
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 06 June 2020, 01:12:15
They've been testing Le Creuset, seems to leech heavy metals.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 June 2020, 01:31:54
asdf
Yea, apparently ever since moving production to Chn, there's been metal leeching into foods from their pots.
It's possible that some parts of the process uses recycled material, and you know how lax Chn is on what things can be recycled with what things. Allegedly they've found recycled metal from lead acid batteries in cookware.
Here's the thing though. Made in France isn't much better, because they have a horrific nooqular industry where they need to truck waste across the country weekly, this greatly increases the exposure of hot particles to the entire nation and on public roads no less.
So... yea.. Tp4 is prolly goin' with neoflam, ceramic coated wok, made in korea. Choosing to trust the cellfone people on this one.
Post by: chyros on Sat, 06 June 2020, 02:29:59
Post by: lakeboredom on Sat, 06 June 2020, 03:15:40
I have all teflon pans etc
I would love to change this to some other material cookware, if someone could suggest - perfect wok?
Ceramic?
Cast iron?
Ahhhh this thread hurt so much to read. I will save you. There are three pan materials and only three. Stainless steel, carbon steel, and cast iron. Carbon steel is your non stick and doesnt get washed with soap (wok, egg pan)
Post by: Leslieann on Sat, 06 June 2020, 05:34:51
teflon is great, you just need to not scratch or burn it xD .It off-gasses before it burns and since your stove top doesn't have a thermometer there's no guarantees.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 June 2020, 11:03:57
teflon is great, you just need to not scratch or burn it xD .It off-gasses before it burns and since your stove top doesn't have a thermometer there's no guarantees.
Not-burning / off-gassing is also only a hypothetical situation where the Base and structure is heated Uniformly. This is not the case on a real stove, THERE ARE HOT SPOTS which exceed operational temperature.
One can assume, the teflon will ALWAYS chip/ and off-gas as a consequence.
Post by: chyros on Sat, 06 June 2020, 17:12:10
I'm around genuinely dangerous chemicals every single working day. Teflon, especially such small amounts, is really not that big a deal :p .teflon is great, you just need to not scratch or burn it xD .It off-gasses before it burns and since your stove top doesn't have a thermometer there's no guarantees.
Not-burning / off-gassing is also only a hypothetical situation where the Base and structure is heated Uniformly. This is not the case on a real stove, THERE ARE HOT SPOTS which exceed operational temperature.
One can assume, the teflon will ALWAYS chip/ and off-gas as a consequence.
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 06 June 2020, 18:12:14
I'm around genuinely dangerous chemicals every single working day. Teflon, especially such small amounts, is really not that big a deal :p .
We admire and appreciate your bravery Chyros.
Still, it seems several times a day worth of ingestion, over a lifetime of accumulation through regular cooking, caution is warranted..
Post by: chyros on Sun, 07 June 2020, 04:45:19
Fluorine chemicals are often either extremely inert or extremely reactive (fluorine is the most electronegative element in the universe, so it tends to display these reactivity extremes a lot), but never bioaccumulatively toxic, as far as I'm aware. The fact that you ingest only tiny amounts at a time is why it's really not that dangerous, as some of the thermal decomposition products of PTFE are genuinely dangerous on a non-micro scale (mainly HF and PFIB). It'd be like saying filling up your car causes cancer because mogas contains benzene.I'm around genuinely dangerous chemicals every single working day. Teflon, especially such small amounts, is really not that big a deal :p .
We admire and appreciate your bravery Chyros.
Still, it seems several times a day worth of ingestion, over a lifetime of accumulation through regular cooking, caution is warranted..
The related microplastics debate does revolve around accumulation of course, but that's an environmental issue, not a health one.
Post by: jamster on Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:06:23
I have all teflon pans etc
I would love to change this to some other material cookware, if someone could suggest - perfect wok?
Ceramic?
Cast iron?
Ceramic coated cast iron IMO is the best. You get all the benefits of both cast iron and teflon. They also cost much more, but generally you pay for quality. Can't go wrong with a Le Creuset.
I'd like to see a Le Creuset wok. Wouldn't want to lift one though.
Post by: iri on Mon, 15 June 2020, 17:39:23
I have all teflon pans etcEnamelled cast iron.
I would love to change this to some other material cookware, if someone could suggest - perfect wok?
Ceramic?
Cast iron?
Post by: gipetto on Tue, 16 June 2020, 15:59:38