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Title: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: DogSpark on Mon, 08 June 2020, 18:51:54
Hi, I've been really into everything keyboards for a little over a year and a half but I never signed up on geekhack, shame on me.  Anyways I love artisans, I love heavy mf keyboards, and I love clackin away. 


-Dogspark
Is it a dog's park or a dog spark? the world will never know. 
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: funkmon on Mon, 08 June 2020, 21:20:00
What're your favourite switches?
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: Maledicted on Tue, 09 June 2020, 20:15:31
Hi Dogspark. Welcome to Geekhack.

I echo funkmon's curiosity.
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: DogSpark on Wed, 10 June 2020, 20:00:54
What're your favourite switches?

For tactile I like Zealios v2 67g, but i'd love to try blueberry switches. 

Linear I need to try some of the more famous ones like creams and gat inks, but I have tried tealio v2 and like them. 

For clicky I actually have grown to like speed navy thick clicks, but I want to try sherbert. 

I like all three types of switches pretty equally, crazy i know. :p


edited because I repeated the words 'a lot' too many times lol
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: DogSpark on Wed, 10 June 2020, 20:19:22
Hi Dogspark. Welcome to Geekhack.

I echo funkmon's curiosity.

Thanks!  I responded above with my favs!
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 10 June 2020, 22:50:31
What're your favourite switches?

For tactile I like Zealios v2 67g, but i'd love to try blueberry switches. 

Linear I need to try some of the more famous ones like creams and gat inks, but I have tried tealio v2 and like them. 

For clicky I actually have grown to like speed navy thick clicks, but I want to try sherbert. 

I like all three types of switches pretty equally, crazy i know. :p


edited because I repeated the words 'a lot' too many times lol

I haven't tried any Zealios or blueberries. Novelkeys keeps knocking things out of the park though, so I imagine blueberries are great.

I need to try all of those linears. I'm a clicky guy.

Have you tried the box navies? I personally find them a bit more smooth and refined than the speed variant.

I don't think liking all 3 equally is crazy, that's pretty cool. You've got so much more to enthusiastically explore than others might. Speaking of which, have you tried any vintage switches?
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: DogSpark on Thu, 11 June 2020, 13:11:03
What're your favourite switches?

For tactile I like Zealios v2 67g, but i'd love to try blueberry switches. 

Linear I need to try some of the more famous ones like creams and gat inks, but I have tried tealio v2 and like them. 

For clicky I actually have grown to like speed navy thick clicks, but I want to try sherbert. 

I like all three types of switches pretty equally, crazy i know. :p


edited because I repeated the words 'a lot' too many times lol

I haven't tried any Zealios or blueberries. Novelkeys keeps knocking things out of the park though, so I imagine blueberries are great.

I need to try all of those linears. I'm a clicky guy.

Have you tried the box navies? I personally find them a bit more smooth and refined than the speed variant.

I don't think liking all 3 equally is crazy, that's pretty cool. You've got so much more to enthusiastically explore than others might. Speaking of which, have you tried any vintage switches?

I have not tried box navies, but I very much want to.  Too many switches out there lol.  I have tried jade though and I like them somewhat but something about the speed navy thick clicks I find really nice.  Like they are very very precise feeling even compared to jades.  This makes me think I would like Sherbert a lot I can't wait to try them. 

For me I really look at each keyboard individually.  Well, at least hypothetically because I have never actually built a full custom, but have multiple in the works(collecting parts caps etc).  So for each board I want to tailor it to the switch.  For example I believe I read that people enjoy a little more flex in the plate with tactile, and maybe a stiffer plate with linear.  Still researching.  Two example here is that I am building a board for my upcoming gmk cafe caps to include novelkeys cream switches.  I mean it is coffee gotta have that cream.  For my mt3 serika I want to try to recreate the ibm beam spring feel as much as possible to go with the profile.  This is something i'm still thinking about and would take any suggestions. 

Which leads me to your next question, No I have not tried vintage switches but would like to.  Especially those beam springs so I can try to find the closest possible feeling in a modern cherry clicky switch. 
Title: Re: Hello from the midwest!
Post by: Maledicted on Thu, 11 June 2020, 13:38:40
I have not tried box navies, but I very much want to.  Too many switches out there lol.  I have tried jade though and I like them somewhat but something about the speed navy thick clicks I find really nice.  Like they are very very precise feeling even compared to jades.  This makes me think I would like Sherbert a lot I can't wait to try them. 

If you take the smoothness and consistency of box jades and combine them with the general characteristics of the navy speed, you've basically got an idea for box navies. Anything in the box design tends to be pretty smooth and refined. I agree that navies have something special about them that's hard to quantify. I think some of it is the balance between spring weight and click bar tactility, but there's something more to that too. Navies definitely seem slightly more crisp than jades. I still sort of prefer jades, just a bit, because of how much they remind me of Alps SKCM.

For me I really look at each keyboard individually.  Well, at least hypothetically because I have never actually built a full custom, but have multiple in the works(collecting parts caps etc).  So for each board I want to tailor it to the switch.  For example I believe I read that people enjoy a little more flex in the plate with tactile, and maybe a stiffer plate with linear.  Still researching.  Two example here is that I am building a board for my upcoming gmk cafe caps to include novelkeys cream switches.  I mean it is coffee gotta have that cream.  For my mt3 serika I want to try to recreate the ibm beam spring feel as much as possible to go with the profile.  This is something i'm still thinking about and would take any suggestions. 

I don't do much of that kit/LEGO board stuff myself. I have the parts for a 60% coming, eventually, but I mostly desolder random OEM boards I like and solder in box switches, or use vintage boards.

I'm not entirely sure on preferences of plates in the tactile and linear crowds. I think one of the bigger things for those guys is eliminating ping and preventing harshly bottoming out, which is (usually) easier to do with less rigid plates. Personally, I like as much noise as I can get, so I don't care about any of that unless it means I can tune/compliment the existing characteristics of a clicky a bit.

I think GMK Cafe paired with NK creams is a wonderful idea, as a fellow coffee lover.

Which leads me to your next question, No I have not tried vintage switches but would like to.  Especially those beam springs so I can try to find the closest possible feeling in a modern cherry clicky switch.

I have never felt beam springs before. I don't know that I ever will feel the originals, but we'll all be able to feel at least a modern recreation of them once the Silo beam spring switches come out. They're also hall efffect, so they should theoretically be very smooth, as there are no physical contacts to rub against. They're also making them analogue, which allows adjustment of the point of actuation, and varying outputs based on how far you depress a switch (less useful for clickies, probably pretty handy for linears). The boards are hot swap to boot, so you could swap in other switch types at will.

As far as vintage clickie switches go, in general, you don't really get anything comparable from Cherry MX. Kailh box clickies get the crispness and smoothness of SKCM Alps and capacitive buckling spring pretty well down, but the actuation points, depth of the tactile event, the exact feel of that tactile event, etc, are not the same.