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Title: Varmilo PING noise
Post by: rambo0185 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 06:53:00
Hi,
first of all i would like to apologize for my faulty english. I am also a beginner and these are my first attempts to do something on a keyboard myself. So sorry if I ask questions that may seem a bit stupid to you. :D

I bought a customized Varmilo 65% Bluetooth keyboard with Tealios 67g switches. In addition, I bought a switch opener, a 0 brush and Krytox 205g0 because I wanted to desolder the switches and lube them for the first time. I'm actually very happy with the keyboard. The only thing that bothers me is the PING noise, which you can hear almost everywhere. With some keys you can even hear it a little louder.

Here are two videos of my keyboard as an example.


Because I am not familiar with it, I tried to find a way to remove this ping sound on the internet and found this video.

Now I wonder if I should possibly order other springs and if I can't lube everything with 205g0 because he used 3 differend lubes in the video.

Maybe someone knows the Tealios 67g and knows whether the feathers are good or it is worth ordering new ones (it doesn't cost that much anymore) and can also tell me if I really need 3 different lubes ?

I thank you for any help and information and apologize again for my bad english :)
Title: Re: Varmilo PING noise
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 17 June 2020, 20:51:50
You don't need 3 types of lube, though you really should use at least two.
You need some thick for anything metal to plastic (stabs, springs), many, including myself use Super Lube. Then thin lube for plastic to plastic. Taeha Types on Youtube has good how-tos for this.

As for ping, that's the springs, lube helps (I prefer top and bottom many only do the bottom. Foam in the base and between plate/pcb can help, another idea I've had but never tried is smearing silicone of the exposed plate.

Bit of warning on desoldering, it's not super hard, but also not super easy and it is time consuming and tedious without a desodler gun. Take your time and try to get ahold of a temp controlled iron. Also while most mistakes that damage the pcb are recoverable, easily damaged switches are not. Don't be surprised if a few feel or sound a bit different by the time you get them reinstalled.
Title: Re: Varmilo PING noise
Post by: HungerMechanic on Wed, 17 June 2020, 21:35:18
I've heard rumors that Varmilo recently stopped using dampening foam in some of its keyboards. If true, you would need to remedy it by adding your own dampening material.

And yes, lubing makes a huge difference in ping. It solved the ping problem on my Leopolds.
Title: Re: Varmilo PING noise
Post by: jamster on Wed, 17 June 2020, 23:38:46
Seconding a comment by Leslieann, get a desoldering gun if you're going to desolder all the switches.

Using a wick or a manual plunger style solder sucker on a hundred+ joints in a row is horribly slow and frustrating, and there's a good chance you'll damage something or lift a trace off the PCB.

PS: Your English is close to perfect.