Preorder is now live, check it out here: https://noxary.co/collections/evija
Locking as the interest check is over.
Really excited about this. Are there any typing tests to get an idea of what the sound signature is like?
Would it work with the Topre Clone housing/dome/spring by Niz?
Will it work with Novatouch housing?
You know how people outside this hobby look at us like we're crazy when they hear how much we spend on keyboards? This is how I feel when I see something like this.
Don't get me wrong, the case looks great and everyone who wants one should enjoy the hell out of it, but you have to pay $450 for just the case and cannibalize two other boards to build this thing. It's like... at this point I have to nope out :D
Will it work with Novatouch housing?
I believe it's the same housings looking at pictures and talking to people that have taken them apart, however I won't officially say it works until I've seen it done.
You know how people outside this hobby look at us like we're crazy when they hear how much we spend on keyboards? This is how I feel when I see something like this.
Don't get me wrong, the case looks great and everyone who wants one should enjoy the hell out of it, but you have to pay $450 for just the case and cannibalize two other boards to build this thing. It's like... at this point I have to nope out :D
(...)so all in it's around $850-900. For a completely built high-end board, I don't think that's too different from anything MX.
Some pictures of built Evija HGs from today :thumb:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729820935439515828/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729820936185970778/image1.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729847155610878082/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729855092836139038/image0.jpg)
Evija HG features a polished stainless steel base, along with a matching plate. It's the same model as the 3rd prototype (aside from the base engraving), and I'm confident based on initial feedback that nothing will change between Evija HG and Evija :thumb:
I've had a lot of people ask if there will be a R2 of HG, the answer is sadly no as I'd like to keep these special. For the regular version, if the demand is there, I will continue to produce the board.
with the limited quantity, any chance of attempting to somehow control the purchasers so that actual topre hhkb users end up with them? i'd hate to miss out on this because the order gets bumrushed by people looking to use it as flip fodder for higher-end mx boards.
if not- any will additional runs be made in the future (iirc one of your instagram posts said something about unlimited)?
Some pictures of built Evija HGs from today :thumb:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729820935439515828/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729820936185970778/image1.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729847155610878082/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729855092836139038/image0.jpg)
Evija HG features a polished stainless steel base, along with a matching plate. It's the same model as the 3rd prototype (aside from the base engraving), and I'm confident based on initial feedback that nothing will change between Evija HG and Evija :thumb:
I've had a lot of people ask if there will be a R2 of HG, the answer is sadly no as I'd like to keep these special. For the regular version, if the demand is there, I will continue to produce the board.
Seconded. That HG is fyreSome pictures of built Evija HGs from today :thumb:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729820935439515828/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729820936185970778/image1.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729847155610878082/image0.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629469234795118594/729855092836139038/image0.jpg)
Evija HG features a polished stainless steel base, along with a matching plate. It's the same model as the 3rd prototype (aside from the base engraving), and I'm confident based on initial feedback that nothing will change between Evija HG and Evija :thumb:
I've had a lot of people ask if there will be a R2 of HG, the answer is sadly no as I'd like to keep these special. For the regular version, if the demand is there, I will continue to produce the board.
That looks freaking beautiful
So I wager there is no more ways to get an HG?
I'm confused. Was the Evija HG already offered, or is going to be offered alongside the Evija? And if it's going to be offered alongside it, what is the cost of that?the evija hg was offered in a small batch earlier this year, and i believe the cost was $840. per xondat's comment in this thread, it will not be making a return.
Seconded. That HG is fyre
So I wager there is no more ways to get an HG?
I'm confused. Was the Evija HG already offered, or is going to be offered alongside the Evija? And if it's going to be offered alongside it, what is the cost of that?
the evija hg was offered in a small batch earlier this year, and i believe the cost was $840. per xondat's comment in this thread, it will not be making a return.
compatible with pro 1? i get that you said pro 2 but just making sure, sorry to bother ya
If the dimensions of the PCBs haven't changed, then yes, however I don't have a Pro 1 to confirm. I can't seem to find any PCB pictures of the Pro 1 to get an approximate idea - if you don't mind then I'd love to get some pictures of the PCBs :)the physical pcb dimensions between the pro 2 and 1 are the same (or close enough), but the location of the mini usb port is shifted much farther to the right on a pro 1 (far enough that not even one of the usb a holes in the case would work as an entry point for it), and the pro 1 does not have the usb ports. so realistically the only way the pro 1 would work is if the pro 2 controller worked with it (which is possibly the case, given that the tmk config file is the same for both the pro1/2 hasu controllers), or you made a custom top plate for them (even as a pro 1 user, i don't think that's a good use of resources).
Brass plate, stock sliders, lubed with 205g0 (I am not good at lubing).
Brass plate, stock sliders, lubed with 205g0 (I am not good at lubing).
sounds as expected with stock sliders (more of a chattery metallic echo than the plastic case; reminds me of the digilog sound), but the spacebar definitely could use some love. any chance you could pop in purple realforce sliders and give them a test as well? they helped a ton with the echo in the digilog.
the physical pcb dimensions between the pro 2 and 1 are the same (or close enough), but the location of the mini usb port is shifted much farther to the right on a pro 1 (far enough that not even one of the usb a holes in the case would work as an entry point for it), and the pro 1 does not have the usb ports. so realistically the only way the pro 1 would work is if the pro 2 controller worked with it (which is possibly the case, given that the tmk config file is the same for both the pro1/2 hasu controllers), or you made a custom top plate for them (even as a pro 1 user, i don't think that's a good use of resources).
i'd say long-term offering a hhkb classic compatible topcase >>>>>>>>>> offering a pro 1 topcase (given the longevity of usb-c), but i don't think it matters all that much for this batch since the 40 will probably sell out in <5 minutes regardless.
sounds as expected with stock sliders (more of a chattery metallic echo than the plastic case; reminds me of the digilog sound), but the spacebar definitely could use some love. any chance you could pop in purple realforce sliders and give them a test as well? they helped a ton with the echo in the digilog.
yeah eliminating this sound is definitely the way to go IMO
not sure how much room there is inside the housing, but I also added dampening foam inside my norbaforce and it improved it further in this regard
I had a few people request a typing test on a deskmat, as that's how most people will use it - take a listen :thumb:
Thanks for the info, it's possible to change the base piece to have two sets of mounting points - both for Pro 1 and Pro 2. I think the trade off might not be worth it though, I doubt people would choose a Pro 1 over a Pro 2 to donate parts for Evija.so i watched the evija assembly video and noticed that the plate had a cut-out for a capacitor on the main pcb, and it reminded me that the components on the main pcb of the pro 1 are different than the pro 2 as well (both on the bottom and top of pcb, with the notable "big green chip" on top of the pro1). so there may be further compatibility issues with the bottom of the case, as well as with the plate, making it even less worth your while (and likely more expensive) to offer a pro 1-compatible evija.
I opened up my Classic today and it's very different to Pro 2. It'd be possible to have both work in one design, but like the Pro 1 vs Pro 2, the Pro 2 would be the more likely donor due to price and the additional functionality it offers.
definitely a crisper sound, but i personally can't stand the stock hhkb sound, so hopefully you/one of the HG owners are able to get us a proper type-s typing video at some point :thumb: you did miss out on an easy opportunity to compare the evija sound with the plastic hhkb sitting directly above it though :p
I had a few people request a typing test on a deskmat, as that's how most people will use it - take a listen :thumb:
so i watched the evija assembly video and noticed that the plate had a cut-out for a capacitor on the main pcb, and it reminded me that the components on the main pcb of the pro 1 are different than the pro 2 as well (both on the bottom and top of pcb, with the notable "big green chip" on top of the pro1). so there may be further compatibility issues with the bottom of the case, as well as with the plate, making it even less worth your while (and likely more expensive) to offer a pro 1-compatible evija.
in terms of offering the classic-compatible evija, it's just one of those things where offering it means you can future proof the case so it doesn't turn into a 356CL situation ($10 ps2 to usb adapter attached to $10,000 keyboard). usb-c has a lot of potential, and so we might be seeing custom classic controllers that offer things like internal full bandwidth m2 ports, or maybe even the ability to turn your keyboard into a mobile battery pack that can fast charge devices on the go, and that could give more reason to want a classic pcb + custom classic daughterboard in an evija case. i don't think there's anything holding anyone back from offering the same level of type-c compatibility with a custom pro 2 daughterboard though (just the general cost/availability/licensing for things like tb controllers, and the obvious lack of usb-c cutout on pro 2 case), so might be that it gets the engineering love and not the classic.
downside is that the classic supposedly has qc issues, so who knows how long this iteration will last. i also feel like the faraday60 has more potential than the classic (and i believe it's being designed with the pro2 case in mind, so it'd likely work with the current evija), so it may become a big player in the custom topre hhkb space.
obviously you could just wait and see how things with the classic play out though, and then maybe do a run for it specifically down the road so that you aren't effectively wasting production time on it now (i'm of the mind that if the ****ty red massdrop brick could get more than 40 backers 4 years ago, your 40-case drop is going to be devoured in 2020).
here's one more question on sound (and it's one of those things where once you hear it, you can't unhear it, so i'll spoiler to keep you from reading something you might not want to be aware of if you're noise-conscious)-
so each key press has its own sound profile on the hhkb (and unfortunately a very silenced board isn't immune to this problem either), and my guess how the profile is determined is that the closer to the edge the key, the "worse" the key sounds (making the esc and backspace keys the worst-sounding 1u keys by far). with the change in case material and mounting method, maybe that changes though, so i'm curious to hear if you're able to notice a difference in sound when typing on the 'a' key compared to the 'g' key.
i assume this affects all keyboards (seems like an acoustic property thing), but i haven't really owned any board other than a hhkb in 5+ years, so i figured i'd ask.
Any chance for a green or maybe red evija?
Sorry if it was already mentioned and I missed it but could this be used with something like Hasu's USB-C PCB? Or is the USB port on this going to be too small like the stock HHKB case? I'm on the fence about this given the total cost involved but if I'm stuck with the stock non-programmable PCB and a USB-mini connector then it's definitely way too expensive for me.
Evija will start on July 31st @ 1PM EDT. You can find the preorder page here: https://noxary.co/products/evija
Evija will start on July 31st @ 1PM EDT. You can find the preorder page here: https://noxary.co/products/evija
What happened to the other case colors? I remember seeing pink, but now it's no longer being offered.
What happened to the other case colors? I remember seeing pink, but now it's no longer being offered.
Yeah, I was really interested in getting a Pink board :(
As nmur noted, I was only planning 3 colors. Splitting 40 units between 4 colors leaves the possibility for only 3-5 orders for the least popular color, which is difficult to deal with regarding extras to account for b-stock, so I decided to cut the color I think would sell the least.are you anticipating any issues with the consistency of the color on blue gray cases? i googled for examples of the color and saw that the x60 had some issues with some pieces being more blue than blue gray last year, but wasn't sure if that was potentially still a problem or not.
As with other colors, if this round is successful, then I'd most likely introduce Pink for R2 :)
What are the QC issues with the Classic? I didn't notice anything initially but I haven't given it too much desk time as I'm still pissed at UK customs for destroying the front trying to get into it.there seem to be some issues with the construction (or how it's being put together/stored/shipped), as i saw a few posts about the mounting posts being cracked out of the box on reddit. i didn't look through japanese/chinese sites to see if the problem was more widespread, but if it is, then it might provoke a design change since i can't imagine topre being happy about flawed goods being associated with their name.
are you anticipating any issues with the consistency of the color on blue gray cases? i googled for examples of the color and saw that the x60 had some issues with some pieces being more blue than blue gray last year, but wasn't sure if that was potentially still a problem or not.
i doubt it matters all that much given the seamless top plate (so even if it's inconsistent case-to-case, it'll at least be consistent on each case), but figured i'd ask. big fan of blue gray/steel blue in general, so really hype about the color being offered.
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there seem to be some issues with the construction (or how it's being put together/stored/shipped), as i saw a few posts about the mounting posts being cracked out of the box on reddit. i didn't look through japanese/chinese sites to see if the problem was more widespread, but if it is, then it might provoke a design change since i can't imagine topre being happy about flawed goods being associated with their name.
That's awesome news, was potentially going to get a novatouch and realforce to make the dream, but I can just search for a novatouch now nicee.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rHhWX1g.jpg)
Many thanks to Zephyraeon for the info - a Novatouch is fully compatible as a donor board instead of the Realforce R1.
Maybe this table is helpful :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aujYS1O.png)
Hi Pro also works of course, but I don't want to imagine how expensive this build is :eek:
Thanks to Ryan for sharing this pic.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lGLGJTK.jpg)
Wouldn't other Topre boards be able to be harvested for the sliders and stabilizers? Such as the Leopold FC660C?
Wouldn't other Topre boards be able to be harvested for the sliders and stabilizers? Such as the Leopold FC660C?