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Title: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: rhubarbpi on Mon, 06 July 2020, 15:49:06
(https://macgui.com/upload/gallery/f_0/user_2/regular/upload_428.jpg)
(generic pic of them from internet - do not have geekhack attached to mobile yet! lol)

I gotta say - after getting the Apple IIgs / Alps Orange board last week, I cannot get over how badass these stepped PBT dye subs are.
Absolutely massive 2mm + thickness, the feeling as you jam on them are pretty magnificent.

Why did no other maker after ever attempt this keycap style?
I can tell you If I get another Alps board I would try to get replacements via an Apple IIc donor board to outfit them.
That being said I know the oblique Apple font is kind of divisive, myself I don't have issues with it at all.

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Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: Riverman on Tue, 07 July 2020, 14:47:33
Those are pretty great keycaps.  They remind me of modern chiclet keys, but sculpted.  My middle school had several IIGS computers with those keyboards, and I bought one years later to use an old Mac.  Unfortunately it's pretty yellowed and has a school district's name melted into the top case.
Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: shallot on Sun, 19 July 2020, 05:07:50
Yeah, I absolutely love these caps - they feel wonderful, nice and solid and thocky. Unfortunately, bit of an arse to use them with almost anything else due to Apple rotating all the switches 90° in the top row. Apple IIc caps are your only option really, but they are totally flat profile, which equally sucks
Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: rhubarbpi on Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:12:39
They have me spoiled for real!
I TRIED going back to my other boards today and within minutes I was reconnecting the Apple IIgs lol.

That being said I have an AEK coming in Monday and of course will have to give it a look over.
They have equally thick non stepped PBTs and I'm sure they will please.

Still, the charms of this IIgs are many.  Such a unique board, plus I can't get over the full size yet compact form factor (Basically a 75).
I wish 65-75% keyboard makers would look for inspiration in this design!
Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: HungerMechanic on Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:15:42
I wasn't the biggest fan of the Apple II, as I wasn't exposed to them much in daily life, but the keyboards were excellent.

Someone should bring those keycaps back, but the profile may be copyrighted or something.
Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: rhubarbpi on Mon, 20 July 2020, 08:08:50
I wasn't the biggest fan of the Apple II, as I wasn't exposed to them much in daily life, but the keyboards were excellent.

Someone should bring those keycaps back, but the profile may be copyrighted or something.

Before I got the IIgs, I was skeptical how the caps would feel even though I thought they looked super awesome.
They ended up *feeling* just as awesome.  Your fingers tend to naturally situate themselves in the small spherical concave of each cap & the PBT texture itself is grippy yet smooth.

Perhaps they are an Apple copyright & with many other manufacturers moving away from stepped caps in general, they just didn't follow it up.  I could also see the argument on how well they would really translate on an AEK size board. Maybe the smaller form factor here suits them extremely well!

Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: Ceyx on Tue, 17 June 2025, 23:30:13
This needs to revived... and made.
Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 18 June 2025, 05:59:35
The contouring of these keyboard rows is a bit special also. The keycaps on the top row are so high that the switches are rotated 90° because the keys would have wobbled too much otherwise.

Later mechanical keyboards from Apple (ASK, AEK/II) have a different keycap design that is still high in the top rows, but not as high. The numeric key row does not have rotated switches but the function key row has.
Title: Re: Apple IIgs / Apple IIc Stepped PBT's!!!
Post by: Igby on Wed, 24 September 2025, 16:47:36
These are pretty close: https://www.reddit.com/r/olkb/comments/1nncckz/ad_ergomech_store_new_products_corne_aluminum/#lightbox
Ergomech will be selling them.

"LAK profile" search returns a lot of overseas options. Blanks seem to be pricey, if one were looking to do their own dye-sub.