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Title: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Closed)
Post by: anonymous on Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:35:39
(https://i.imgur.com/a57mYJt.jpg)

PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB

Participants List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7e2aLZXiPc-C5c7WnFpI3ug88VXSu2VDN8YFj4Km1k/edit?usp=sharing

IC Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106062.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106062.0)

Specifications:

Base kit will include PC Top case, PC Bottom Cover with weight, and POM plate. You can purchase additional PC plates or Brass plates. All parts are sandblasted. No PCBs will be offered on the raffle, but I can include pcbs when the cases are ready to ship.

Acceptable Quality Standards

Price:

Payments will be collected via paypal invoice. All prices doesn't include the 4.4% paypal fee. Shipping fee will be invoiced when the boards are ready to ship in order to determine the exact shipping cost.

Group buy Format:

Timeline:

Terms and Conditions:
  • This is a group buy. The boards will only be produced after payment is collected from the gb participants. Estimated shipping time is after 4-5 months
  • The aforementioned shipping time above is subject to change. There are many factors that can affect the timeline of the production
  • No cancellations once the invoice is paid. If you're no longer interested in your spot during production, I will allow the selling of spots. Any fees needed for the transfer of slots will be shouldered by you.


Renders:

Some design improvements were done after acquiring the prototype. Below is a summary of these changes:
  • Decreased the bezels
  • made the plate screws m2 instead of m3 (same mounting points)
  • Added full backspace, full right shift, and stepped caps lock support on the plate (I forgot to reflect this on the renders)
  • removed the curve on the front part
  • removed the 3 star and a sun engraving on the back
  • added a 3-star and a sun cutout on the weight
  • added an extrusion that will make the lower part of the bottom cover stiffer to minimize bowing (please refer to the renders to see what I meant)
(https://i.imgur.com/a57mYJt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rSIrtJQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EfDQeyN.jpg)

Note: Final plate design includes support for full backspace, fill right shift and stepped caps lock

(https://i.imgur.com/lqE96Wl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7BLi7jr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eR4XTc1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4ACq7i1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2ZyTLKo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RZnhvun.jpg)

Please take note that the renders are just representation and does not reflect the appearance of the actual product. Please refer to the prototype photos below in order to have an idea of the actual finish of the board.

Prototype Photos and Typing Tests
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Prototype photos:

The quality of the prototype is satisfactory. This is my first PC board so I do not have a point of comparison. In terms of machining, the prototype was made according to the design files that I sent to the factory. All pieces fit and there are no tolerance issues.

However, there is slight bowing on the bottom cover due to the absence of center point screws (https://imgur.com/VpeYkjS). The bottom cover is attached to the top piece only on the four corners. I didn't put screws in the middle to achieve uniformity on the plate. The bowing is only .2-.3mm and does not affect the typing experience at all. Adding the height of the bump-ons, the bottom will not touch the surface of your table.

To mitigate the issue, I added an extrusion to the lower part of the bottom cover (https://i.imgur.com/4ACq7i1.jpg). (More design changes can be found at the bottom of this post)

(https://i.imgur.com/Lfz9Erl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Xx4cmAv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ynhmcXg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qimFP2W.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/C9rv5bm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HeWV8sn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f5mMuUq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1KOkwe2g.jpg)

Typing Test with Gateron Milky Blacks:

Typing Test with T1 Switches:
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Raffle on July 16)
Post by: anonymous on Wed, 15 July 2020, 10:45:17
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Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Raffle on July 16)
Post by: Signature on Thu, 16 July 2020, 08:19:22
approved
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Raffle on July 16)
Post by: anonymous on Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:09:24
GB Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeBLeMRgJ0s4no9UAQVOojfi-o6h6PJ69I5eV8Kq4fMjgv6NA/viewform?usp=sf_link
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Form Posted)
Post by: anonymous on Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:11:55
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Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (GB Form Posted)
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:12:51
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Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (GB Form Posted)
Post by: nu_types on Thu, 16 July 2020, 13:42:46
Quote from: nathanchere on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:12:51
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lol wut
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (GB Form Posted)
Post by: heroic on Thu, 16 July 2020, 17:11:40
Is the back the same as the Kira EXS? Any relation?
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (GB Form Posted)
Post by: anonymous on Thu, 16 July 2020, 21:30:14
I forgot to update the renders but the plates will also support full backspace, full right shift and stepped caps lock
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (GB Form Posted)
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 06:33:35
Entered! Goodluck Fam!
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (GB Form Posted)
Post by: anonymous on Sat, 18 July 2020, 00:58:34
Invoices are out! Kindly check your paypal if you received an invoiced
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Invoices Sent)
Post by: happycamper87 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 19:52:28
Quote from: heroic on Thu, 16 July 2020, 17:11:40
Is the back the same as the Kira EXS? Any relation?


Different designer, same Philippine flag.
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Invoices Sent)
Post by: anonymous on Thu, 23 July 2020, 03:05:08
Just placed an order on the manufacturer. The waiting game begins. Thanks to those who joined.

I'll upload a spreadsheet of the order/participants list on the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Payment Sent to Manufacturer)
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 18 August 2020, 00:43:43
If this goes smoothly would you consider an R2?
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Payment Sent to Manufacturer)
Post by: audax989 on Tue, 18 August 2020, 05:39:26
Quote from: nathanchere on Tue, 18 August 2020, 00:43:43
If this goes smoothly would you consider an R2?

I think he is considering an R2!
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Payment Sent to Manufacturer)
Post by: jackcauliflower on Wed, 09 December 2020, 06:41:41
Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Payment Sent to Manufacturer)
Post by: rsvnh on Wed, 09 December 2020, 10:19:54
Op said on Discord that the cases were on their way to the Philippines.
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Payment Sent to Manufacturer)
Post by: whizzard on Mon, 28 December 2020, 14:54:35
Hopefully not too much longer on this one... I am excited to put it together.  Any updates appreciated  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Payment Sent to Manufacturer)
Post by: anonymous on Wed, 10 February 2021, 01:00:38
Hello everyone. I already sent an email to the participants for the shipping addresses. So far, only 6 haven't responded yet. I used the email that you provided during the GB. In case you haven't receive any email. Send me a message at anonymous#1185 on discord or email me at mechanicalkeyboards.etc@gmail.com
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: 1corazon on Sun, 21 February 2021, 05:41:20
HI, Is it too late to join the group buy ?

PLEASE i want the Top and bottom polycarbonate one PLEASE!! email me
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: whizzard on Tue, 23 February 2021, 19:40:29
Just finished putting together the keyboard... I am quite happy with it.  Question about the included PCB... I can't seem to find the "Nightly Boards n-60s" anywhere in QMK and was wondering how I could program it.  For instance, I would like to change the caps-lock to control as in a HHKB.  Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: anonymous on Wed, 24 February 2021, 04:35:48
Quote from: whizzard on Tue, 23 February 2021, 19:40:29
Just finished putting together the keyboard... I am quite happy with it.  Question about the included PCB... I can't seem to find the "Nightly Boards n-60s" anywhere in QMK and was wondering how I could program it.  For instance, I would like to change the caps-lock to control as in a HHKB.  Thanks!

The pull request is still pending. Send me a PM on discord or send me an email so I can provide the json file for via.
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: whizzard on Wed, 24 February 2021, 10:37:39
Some pictures of the keyboard built.  I ordered a different keycap set because I didn't have one to fit this layout... but this gives a general idea.  I am happy with the build.  I know it is difficult to work with polycarbonate and I am glad he went for it.  I used the included PCB, very nice build quality.  The only thing someone might want is LED options for the keys but I think that might make it a little too RGB heavy so I didn't mind just letting the case have the lighting.

Thanks again for the GB!


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50976727917_6c83d27814_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50976616351_9a9360596b_k.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 18:47:37
 :D
Quote from: whizzard on Wed, 24 February 2021, 10:37:39
Some pictures of the keyboard built.  I ordered a different keycap set because I didn't have one to fit this layout... but this gives a general idea.  I am happy with the build.  I know it is difficult to work with polycarbonate and I am glad he went for it.  I used the included PCB, very nice build quality.  The only thing someone might want is LED options for the keys but I think that might make it a little too RGB heavy so I didn't mind just letting the case have the lighting.

Thanks again for the GB!


Show Image
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50976727917_6c83d27814_k.jpg)

Show Image
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50976616351_9a9360596b_k.jpg)


Do you have more pictures of the front?
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: whizzard on Fri, 26 February 2021, 09:31:38
Quote from: audax989 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 18:47:37
Do you have more pictures of the front?

I just took some for you... here is a link to the photo album of this board.  There is a bow, but it is not distracting, and I am not sure I would have noticed if he hadn't pointed it out earlier in the GB.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmUw7dMB (https://flic.kr/s/aHsmUw7dMB)
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 01 March 2021, 08:58:44
Quote from: whizzard on Fri, 26 February 2021, 09:31:38
Quote from: audax989 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 18:47:37
Do you have more pictures of the front?

I just took some for you... here is a link to the photo album of this board.  There is a bow, but it is not distracting, and I am not sure I would have noticed if he hadn't pointed it out earlier in the GB.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmUw7dMB (https://flic.kr/s/aHsmUw7dMB)

Thanks for the pics man! I do see the slight bow. is there a way to fix it? like heat up the PC and bend it back?
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: whizzard on Mon, 01 March 2021, 09:44:52
I am sure there is a way.  If you put some pressure on the middle of the bend it goes flat so maybe some hot air or something would fix it.  It doesn't affect the typing and I don't mind it.  At least it is symmetrical lol.  It is hard to make a full Polycarb keyboard because it always does what it wants when it cools.  I really like the typing angle,  and have been using it since I got it.  The right keycaps for the build are going to get here by March 3rd.  I will take more pics then.
Title: Re: [GB] PH60 - Polycarbonate HHKB (Shipping soon)
Post by: whizzard on Sat, 06 March 2021, 06:31:32
This is how it looks with proper keycaps.  I get a lot of compliments on it  :D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51008006323_32a4c66fac_k.jpg)