Enjoy it if you must, but the G70 is not a terribly nice monitor. I stand by my recommendation to look for Viewsonic CRTs.
Looks like a review (http://geekhack.org/forumdisplay.php?f=38)?
Review section is for keyboards.
Thankfully.
Only CRTs I'd be interested in are vintage ones for use with the appropriate computers. I can appreciate that certain high-end CRTs (and I assume that this IBM thingy is not one of them) offer better colour/picture quality than even the best flatscreens. But I don't need that level of accuracy, so the numerous advantages of flatscreens are more important to me.
...but you like one of the worst products they ever produced!
I mean serious professional ones that cost thousands. The sort that doesn't come as an OEM bundle with a generic business computer.
Most of the perception of flatscreens being **** come from cheap TN panels. I had no real idea of why people still liked CRTs until my neighbor bought a computer with a cheap TN Dell screen. It was so noticeably terrible that I told them to ring up Dell and get a replacement (I don't think they followed up on that)
That said, I don't think I've ever had a flatscreen that wasn't an IPS. The quality of these mean that I can't really justify buying some expensive CRT that is hard to lift and eats up loads of power. Oh, and have fun finding a 30" CRT for the same price as a good 30" flat screen.
Review section is for keyboards.
Thankfully.
I was not referring to the G70 monitor, however it is 'typical' at best.
Indeed, the 300PL. Have you actually seen a computer of equal age and spec from any other manufacturer or even off-the-shelf home assembled rigs?
Things you'll find when comparing the 300PL to other similar machines:
- 300PL has worse case airflow
- 300PL has worse case materials
- 300PL has worse 'fit and finish'
- 300PL has ineffeciently designed absolutely huge motherboard with 'typical at best' integrated features and expansion options
- because of the above point, 300PL takes up a massive amount of desk real estate
- The concept of using a riser card to mount cards in parallel to the motherboard completely defeats the benefits of a desktop-style case (though this is only an issue if you're using a PCI graphics card of any decent capabilities)
- 300PL's cable routing can cause cable damage in certain circumstances
The only true benefit I can think of is that the PSU is standard, so when it fails because of terrible airflow, a replacement would not be hard to install.
Review section is for keyboards.
Thankfully.
If this CRT isn't high end, then what is? You can't really get much better than this one already. That would also make all modern CRTs low-end.
I dare you to say My LaCie's were low end. They were pretty much the best CRT's ever made, and would annihilate your G70 in every possible way, barring Power Consumption and weight (They were farking HEAVY!).
Please, stop spouting your opinions as fact. There is a reason people who needed accuracy used these monitors to make a living. The same reason I shelled out £1500 for the pair, and that was at EOL Firesale prices. The resolution was epic, sharpest picture I have ever seen, and with the bundled colour calibration device, the most accurate monitor I have ever used. The fact that they do not have your beloved IBM sticker attached is and are therefore outside of your personal spectrum of "good" products, quote frankly, irrelevant. There were plenty of monitors made that would walk all over yours. I get offered them for free on a regular basis (Diamond Pro's w/ a Trinitron tube come to mind as one of the better pro-sumer CRT's, I was offered a pallet of 25, free to anyone who bothered to collect them)
The G70 actually has a plastic badge (with a painted embossed IBM). Stickers are for Greenock model Ms and lenovo pads. Now it's probably not power efficient at all, however it is heavy. It's a whopping 47 pounds for only being 17". The colour of it is so perfect that you can't get any better. It's very sharp, flicker free, and is made in USA, not china.
TSSTCorp Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation (TSST) is an international joint venture company of Toshiba Corporation (Japan) and Samsung
Grr, you're impacting my ability to clear all new posts! lololol.
I'm sure there were some applications where it wasn't feasible for one reason or another.
If necessary I'll exemplify the 5160: Seagate ST-412.
It should but it's not.
No it isn't. You should read it carefully.
The only CRT's I would have back were the ones based on the Trinitron tubes, or, preferably, LaCie Electron Blue's. I had 2 of the Latter, and had to sell them off due to space constraints. Stunning Monitors that double up as space heaters in the winter. No joke, I never needed to turn my heating on in the winter if these were running.
The Sony Trinitrons were excellent CRT TVs and monitors.
I'm still using FD flat screen Trinitron monitors that were packaged with the CCTV system at my club. They are about 10 years old, but still function very well.
I've changed my mind, the section is only for keyboards.
I will keep my "For once I agree with MS Windows" card for another time.
Heh, IBM made some good CRTs (most were average) but there are others which made great ones too and the final-model Sonys were the best. Anyway, the G series is a budget model, the P series were the good ones.
It amuses me how worked-up some of you all get when somebody tells us that he likes a monitor he got the other day.
LaCie just OEMs stuff, they don't make anything. I can prove it with my EXTREMELY OVERPRICED LaCie external hard drive.
I've changed my mind, the section is only for keyboards.
I will keep my "For once I agree with MS Windows" card for another time.
If you want to see how bad LCDs get I have an old Panasonic TN from 1999. Huge gamma shifts, it has those light hoirzontal bands when you have dark stuff being displayed, and has next to no viewing angle. My FE700+ CRT absolutely blows it away IQ wise. It even gets less glare than most matte screen LCDs under normal conditions. If it weren't for the fact that I get loads of eyestrain I'd totally be using a CRT right now.
You really have no idea kiddo. WTF has a hard drive got to do with your blanket assertion that modern CRT monitors are ****?
I can assure you they are not, I compared them back to back with several Trinitron tubes, and there was significant difference in favour of the Lacie's. If there had been little or no difference, I would have saved ~£1000 and bought a new engine I needed for the Trike. Pull your head out of your arse, not all modern or non-IBM stuff is crap, and shouting louder when you are called on it won't make any difference. The G70 get's **** on from a great height when compared to high-end monitors.
Most people's eyes don't hurt because of the CRT design itself but because of the low refresh rates they use.
Of course not all non-IBM stuff is crap, but the fact you paid so much (partly for a brand name, and partly as a specialty item) makes it really irrelevant wit the G70 is just as good, or maybe even better.
but the fact you paid so much (partly for a brand name
And here children, is where the pot called the kettle black.
removes the need to buy another one ever again
Your CRTs will get worse over time dude, you just don't notice it because you never used your stuff when it was new and it's a gradual process.
Your CRTs will get worse over time dude, you just don't notice it because you never used your stuff when it was new and it's a gradual process.
Guess what? Your fancy LCD will degrade much faster.
Protip: resumes which appear to have been printed on a dot matrix printer will likely be discarded immediately.
You should write your resumes backwards.
If this monitor is so bad, prove it. It's better than all of the CRTs you've owned or used. Like I said, the tube is resistant to distortion with light change.
And my 300PLs couldn't have worked better. They get the job done well. The only IBM comptuers I'm not so fond of are netvistas and aptivas.
In 2005, I traded a brand-new $350 LCD Viewsonic VX910 for a $65 used Sun GDM-5410. Gorgeous picture. 2048x1536 at 60Hz, 1600x1200 at 85.
Quite literally, you won't be picking it up. They weigh easily as much as the computers they tend to go with (70lbs).
Friend has one. Ridiculously sharp image (sickeningly so, in fact) but absolutely huge in the wrong way (depth).
Quite seriously, don't put it on a 300PL. I do not exaggerate when I talk about the poor case design. It could easily be damaged beyond repair by a 70lb CRT monitor.
When carrying monitors like this I tend to carry them with the screen against my chest and hands on the bottom sides about halfway to the back.
In 2005, I traded a brand-new $350 LCD Viewsonic VX910 for a $65 used Sun GDM-5410. Gorgeous picture. 2048x1536 at 60Hz, 1600x1200 at 85.
I wouldn't be surprised, Sony made those
According to this website (http://www.computerdisplays.co.uk/21%20inch%20monitors/sun%20gdm.htm), it's a trinitron rebranded with a sun logo.
I was kidding. It would crush most computers, or at least make them bow. I'm actually wondering if even 47 pounds is a little heavy for it.
Sometimes if I'm carrying a big computer for long distances (such as walking home with one), I rest it on my belt. That way it makes it effortless.
I've ridden home from work on a bicycle with a computer once, an LCD another time.
LaCie just OEMs stuff, they don't make anything. I can prove it with my EXTREMELY OVERPRICED LaCie external hard drive. It's actually an hitachi with a glossy LaCie case.
It's 200GB I think -- cost well over $150. The reason why I got it was because all the other external hard drives were in some funky colours, stuff I use has to be business-appropriate. Overpriced internals that they never made (most likely with CRTs that they made -- never knew they made any).
The colour of it is so perfect that you can't get any better.
That's a great way to save money instead of buying gas all the time... and exercise too.
It's a win/win.
It would be cool if you could carry a 70 pound CRT on your bike though.
And you aren't?
I did read this whole thread. You people may know keyboards, but SOME of you def have your head up your ass when it comes to computers in general.
Most monitor manufacturers did not make all their internals. This is still the case, but really has **** all to do with the overall quality. In fact, what company DOES design, build and implemented all of the technology in a given electronic?
Yes, you can.
Since we are actually arguing LaCie monitors vs. this IBM, I can tell EverythingIBM really has no, even ENTHUSIAST, graphic/design/photo background.
Up until about 2004-5, the Sony and Mitsubishi Aperture-grille (Trinitron and Diamondtron) were really the ONLY monitors anyone bought for use as calibrated displays in the aforementioned fields. The LaCies, along with NEC CRTs, were LUSTED after (they were diamondtron based), as were Sony's "Artisan". The LaCies, as did the artisan, even packaged with their own hood and hardware calibrator (which the still do for their high-end LCDs).
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/sony-artisan.shtml
http://www.computerdisplays.co.uk/21%20inch%20monitors/lacie_BlueII_22.htm
enlighten yourself.
Are you sure it wasn't designed in the US, assembled in China?
I actually do graphics designing w/ photography & game designing too.
This IBM G70 does have perfect colour and is extremely sharp.
It IS made by IBM in the US, not china or generic parts like monitors today.
Oh I can tell it's US quality. And yes, it is manufactured in the US of A. A REAL IBM product, not some cheap stuff. Don't go all huffy over my intellistations, yeah whatever they're made in china (they serve as good as modern computers go) -- but my real pride is my older IBM stuff not made in china.
Some day you'll see that the IBM 5150 is still a very good computer. I'm sure there's some way to hook up a blue ray drive if someone manufactures an ISA to SATA card.
1280 x 1024 at 60hz. Yeah, I bet thats wonderful on the eyes.
So does EVERYONE else on the internet, congrats.
Those definitely sound like things that a professional digital content creator would say :rolleyes:
Colour: NOTHING has perfect colour. How are you even defining perfect colour? (Hint: "It looks good to MY eyes" is not even close to the right answer.)
Sharpness: Again, pretty subjective. You could look at the dot pitch, which is 0.28 the G70. Pretty ****ing pedestrian.
The 0.24 AG pitch on either the sony or Mitsu (LaCie) is not directly comparable, but would be around 0.26 ish. The improved contrast of the AG monitors though would have you perceiving greater sharpness.
Although Im pretty sure you are wrong, and I'd almost be willing to pay to have that POS shipped to me so I can crack it open with a bat and mail you back each generic "Chinese" component one-by-one, the fact is IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Question: who cares?
Answer: Not even IBM. They have tonnes of monitors that are better than this POS, and those all use Sony Trinitron tubes.
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/visuals/mwbook2.pdf
1280 x 1024 at 60hz. Yeah, I bet thats wonderful on the eyes.
I wonder if it has the same plastic rivets that Model Ms do too.
I don't run it at 1280 x 1024, are you bonkers? I run it in 640x480.
...
I meant graphics designing as an actual job... but whatever. And no, most graphics people do on the internet is laughable.
It actually is flicker-free even in 60Hz (and does support higher refresh rates, but I don't like them). If you read, it has flicker-free technology.
Max 85Hz flicker free mode 1280x1024
Unlike the newer cheap chinese CRTs made today (other typical CRTs I can't stand at 60Hz, it's like an eye seizure).
I'd never ship you my G70, it's 47 pounds, it uses the same screws as in a Model M (plus the whole thing is surrounded in metal lining, good luck getting that open). And finally, I want to be able to use it... no one is breaking it.
IBM G Series General CRT Monitors provide
perfect balance of price and performance
I bet you manage to get tonnes done in that giant 640x480 workspace, do you use a 4x6 inch drafting table too??
I did read: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/visuals/mwbook2.pdf
indicates that the higher mdel G7x have flicker-free, but not the g70/g70t.
In fact, this "flicker-free" they refer to:
it's just a preset res/refresh that WONT FLICKER (not some technology on top of a 60hz refresh that magically looks great).
You are the only one who gives two ****s about Chinese. I simply stated your CRT is a modest performer compared to some sony Trinitron and Mitsubishi Diamondtron screen, both of which are NOT Chinese.
That really IS ok with me. Not a single person in the world, including the dude who gave that paperweight, wants a damn thing to do with it.
G series = SUPER VGA COLOR (General Purpose)
In other words, NOT the best. FACT.
I don't see any flicker on my 60Hz screens. Maybe it's something to do with the fact that the human eye can't take in that many distinct images in one second anyway...
I noticed flicker on my old 20" LCD monitor (probably because I sat closer to it than my new 24"). It was especially visible when viewing a grey screen.
Incorrect, the G70s are flicker free:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/SBJR-3XNK6F.html (http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/SBJR-3XNK6F.html)
You're reading the wrong thing buddy, the max resolution is 1024x768 (and is supported with flicker free on that).
Maximum resolution x colors 1280x1024x16M
Flicker-Free Yes, up to 1024x768
Refresh Rate (Vertical Scan)(Range from 50-105 Hz NI)
selected examples:
...
60Hz - 1280x1024 (Non-Interlaced)
The PDF states 85hz WITH flicker free, not one and the same. It's a different flicker-free technology (I think interpolation?)
Flicker-free using Hz requires a minimum of 100, not 85 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker-free).
So wait, CRT monitors could support resolutions that they couldnt operate at flicker free?
That explains a lot of things to me involving an old SGI CRT monitor I had the misfortune of using...
The problem is that "flicker" is subjective. 60hz is just generally agreed upon as the bare minimum tolerable refresh. This will change based on the viewer and the screen size, thus it is favourable to have support for higher refresh rates at ALL supported resolution, even if this was not the case. I couldnt ever operate a computer screen in 60hz.
most people would think 75Hz is flicker free meaning it doesn't blind you like 60Hz does. That wiki link has 0 to do with CRTs as well, just talking about that new 120Hz LCD stuff.
Interpolation is what you use to make images a higher resolution.
The problem is that "flicker" is subjective. 60hz is just generally agreed upon as the bare minimum tolerable refresh. This will change based on the viewer and the screen size, thus it is favourable to have support for higher refresh rates at ALL supported resolution, even if this was not the case. I couldnt ever operate a computer screen in 60hz.
You might be fine at 60Hz when you're fresh, but after a few hours, you might be noticing fatigue, more flicker, or even headaches as ch_123 brought up.
It gets more interesting. The subjective flicker can change depending on the level of fatigue of the viewer. Your brain is responsible for fusing the flashed images together into a smooth picture. The more tired you are, the harder it gets for your brain to fuse the images together.
You might be fine at 60Hz when you're fresh, but after a few hours, you might be noticing fatigue, more flicker, or even headaches as ch_123 brought up.
DO IT!
But please, no HD video, or it'll take me 4 hours to buffer it...
DO IT!
But please, no HD video, or it'll take me 4 hours to buffer it...
Indeed. I notice this. I notice flicker at higher frequencies than most, but I have really weird eyes. I can usually deal with 75hz, but when tired, I can see the flicker, especially in my peripheral vision. At that point, I have to stop using it, or bump up to 85hz.
I play games on my stupid CRTs at 60hz all night long and I never notice any flickering.
Either I'm used to 60hz, this is a flicker free monitor, or everyone else has a bad visual IQ.
I'll get the keys for the liftshaft ready... One of my friends* has answered my rather unusual request, and I'll end by quoting him:-
"I've got one. Why do you want a piece of **** monitor... thought you had the LaCie's anyway?"
He laughed a lot when I told him about this thread, and is looking forward to the video... ;-)
*He is, by the way, the aforementioned Graphic Designer, responsible for purchasing these things initially. He still insists they will stand up to anything LCD-wise under £1000. Warranty was the sole reason they changed them out for what I think are S-IPS based LCD's.
It's not a piece of **** monitor. It'll last longer than any lacie junk.
Irony, you has it.
And for the environmentally conscious of you out there, I'll be sure to recycle what's left of it after I scrape it out of the lift shaft...:thumb:
Must remember to bring a dustpan and brush.
or everyone else has a bad visual IQ.
English isn't your native language.
Who cares, EIBM will be offsetting your carbon footprint by running this power hungry piece of **** till it rots his eyes out or explodes in his face.
let me a tell you a story about a guy named bob.
One day, bob was driving home on the freeway while his wife was at home watching tv and waiting for bob to arrive. All of a sudden, she saw a news report that there was an alleged maniac on the freeway driving in the wrong direction. She's worried that bob might get hurt and calls him on his cellphone. Bob answers the cellphone and his wife says, "bob, sweetie, be careful, apparently there's a maniac driving in the wrong direction on the freeway!"
bod replies, "honey, they're all driving in the wrong direction!"
Who cares, EIBM will be offsetting your carbon footprint by running this power hungry piece of **** till it rots his eyes out or explodes in his face.
So you don't understand me? That's why you have chosen to ignore all arguments backed by fact in favour of changing the subject and blind zealotry.
It's not made cheaply, nor is it poor quality.
I have the same sensitivity to low refresh rates. A 60Hz CRT refresh rate for a few hours will literally make my eyes feel like they've been punched. Low refresh rates were really bad for my productivity. I always made sure to spend some extra money for the nicer monitors.
I never had any issues with my IBM stuff, it'll keep working just fine.
Technically a person who is a zealot goes insane and angry. Or in some cases, feels to inflict physical damage to something they don't like -- such as G70 CRTs. I'll say one thing: it'll be one hard monitor to break. It's not made cheaply, nor is it poor quality. And I think they can actually support 120Hz.
zeal·ot (zlt)
n.
1.
a. One who is zealous, especially excessively so.
b. A fanatically committed person.
zealous [ˈzɛləs]
adj
filled with or inspired by intense enthusiasm or zeal; ardent; fervent
zeal (zl)
n.
Enthusiastic devotion to a cause, ideal, or goal and tireless diligence in its furtherance. See Synonyms at passion.
Thanks, actually, I was going to reply saying that as much as I'd enjoy to see it oblitered I couldn't enjoy it knowing it may be placed in a trash bin rather than sent to the appropriate place...
Ultimately it's one monitor out of however many people set on top of hills for target practice with, but if everyone has the "only one" mentality then it's a whole bunch more than "only one" which isn't so good.
I have a G70 available to me locally at the same place as a high school auto shop 'shop car' Cutlass Supreme like so:
I wonder...can I combine these two elements for great win?
I never had any issues with my IBM stuff, it'll keep working just fine.
Technically a person who is a zealot goes insane and angry. Or in some cases, feels to inflict physical damage to something they don't like -- such as G70 CRTs. I'll say one thing: it'll be one hard monitor to break. It's not made cheaply, nor is it poor quality. And I think they can actually support 120Hz.
I couldn't enjoy it knowing it may be placed in a trash bin rather than sent to the appropriate place...
Technically:
No mention of insanity or anger. Sorry to have proven you wrong. It being your language and all, I would have thought you had a much firmer grasp on it's usage.
zealot
ZEALOT, n. Zelot. One who engages warmly in any cause, and pursues his object with earnestness and ardor. It is generally used in dispraise, or applied to one whose ardor in intemperate and censurable. The fury of zealots was one cause of the destruction of Jerusalem.
Do you know what resolutions it can support 120Hz at?
But that does sound like a pretty good monitor, hearing that it cost over $600. I've got a Gateway2000-branded Trinitron tube from 1996 which can handle pretty good refresh rates. The monitor itself is kind of ugly and beat-up, but it displays a pretty good quality image.
Webwit, with all due respect, would have smacked you around this place so hard with his e-penis it would have genuinely not been funny by the time he was done. Your IBM fanboyism is maddening. We all have preferences and sometimes our preferences are for inferior things...the difference is others are willing to admit they prefer inferior things whereas you say "LOL IBM IS DA BEST DOOD" which is rather irritating.
I built the computer the G70 is currently on and spent hours behind (in front of?) that thing playing with configuration options trying to get it to stop sucking. It just didn't wanna play nice so I left it there at 1024x768x32 at 70Hz.
120Hz would require a decent graphics card and appropriate monitor driver.
You mean ITS usage, "it's" stands for "it is," when you say "it is usage," it sounds very odd.I sit corrected, a mere typo, I assure you.
Being a zealot does constitute insanity -- to the point of becoming in a religious state and bloodthirsty for a cause. What I said was correct, you're just trying to find my exact synonyms.Then you SHOULD have said:
...
Technically a person who is a zealot [can become] insane and angry.
Probably 1280x1024 maximum if it's possible. Win98 doesn't give me the listing for 120hz though (it just gives me the same generic list for any CRT).
I could say people gorging themselves with modern technology is maddening too... ipads... ipods... dells... macs... hps... consumerism chaos.
When you say to make it "stop sucking" that's so generic. I easily configured mine the way I wanted. It's almost effortless with all the digital buttons at the bottom. No time wasted flipping through menus. The only thing I haven't been able to do is force windows 98 to show 120Hz, I think it could be the graphics card though.
I thought you said 1024x768 was the MAX res for this monitor?
Clearly you have lower visual standards than the rest of us...
Lenovo's wonderful butchered web listing was confusing me, I did have it running in 1280x1024 on my thinkpad -- I just thought maybe somehow I was wrong. And yeah it does 120Hz:Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11789&stc=1&d=1279594426)
There was no distortion either, I think the video drivers on my 300PL were just whacked (that or the S3 integrated gfx card). I never installed half of the stuff correctly because I was too lazy and am going to get a better one with a pentium 1 processor.
But to be honest, 120Hz and 60Hz look exactly the same to me.
120Hz at what res? certainly not the aforementioned 1280x1024...
Yep it does 1280x1024 at 120hz, here's a screenshot:Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11790&stc=1&d=1279596684)
Impressive... I myself didn't think it was capable of it.
EDIT: I should add that it also displays support for well past 120Hz... but heh, I don't want to break it. It's going to stay running in 60Hz at 640x480 for the rest of its existence.
Guaranteed that monitor is not being driven at that spec, regardless of what winders says.
Is there an OSD or any other way of seeing, on the monitor itself, what signal is fed?
I suppose it isn't impossible, but it is highly unlikely.
Yes it is running at 120Hz in 1280x1024. If you have so many questions and doubts, go get yourself a G70. Otherwise I don't care, I have the thing in front of me and witnessed that it's a very nice prime monitor...
It has no OSD whatsoever, it's completely digital. It does have a colour diagnostic screen when unplugged however.
EIBM's role model:Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/enthauptet/etc/pos/1175747356512.jpg)
'Digital' could and would in most cases include an OSD, but that's beside the point.
The graphics card will do what the driver tells it. As much as I hate to say this, if the monitor couldn't handle 120Hz, it would be displaying a mess of garbage...
Yeah I probably wont do that.
If it IS really RUNNING at that spec (a big if), then that ONE plus for a monitor that STILL isn't the best in the world, as you have clearly stated it to be.
I think it's great how you have ignored all previous comments containing proof of that fact. Are you even connected to the rest of the internet, or does your DNS server just round-robin between the IBM site and GH?
truf.
Yes, but the monitor doesn't need to comply. However, anything is possible, and like I said, that would be a plus in my books.
Either way, still fairly generic ****.
Clearly not g70s. Clearly NOT achieving desired liftoff.
Generic? It has so many features not even found in most CRTs... if you actually analyzed it.
I wasn't proclaiming the G70 to be *THE* one and only CRT -- I was simply stating the joy I had when discovering how nice this one was, for free too. I have C170 CRTs and an L190 LCD which I really really like. My favourite LCD too (weighs 20 pounds and metal plated).
I did, it doesn't.
Well you did actually state that the colour was perfect, and that one could not find better, but I'll give you the second part.
Enjoy it, you poor bastard. At least you get to have a laugh at all those PC users out there spending hard earned dollars for new **** (trust me, we're laughing back at you).
I did buy a new CRT... cost about $200. The tube got dead pixels, when changing brightness it would shift. The picture is also very blurry.
I gave it away. Cheap chinese junk.
Buying 1996 hardware new in 2010 = bad idea.
EIBM's role model:Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/enthauptet/etc/pos/1175747356512.jpg)
The tube got dead pixels
lol I got some mag innovision that looked like this (it's the only stock photo I could find, but unfortunately has a lascivious woman):Show Image(http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/771FSS.jpg)
Got it from bestbuy in 2006 or 2007.
It's utter crap. Yeah, I think that stock image was the only well they could sell any.
I oughta do something. I'll change my avatar to a photo of an attractive women and see how many hundred more visits my profile page will get.
And a good morning to you, sir.