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Title: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 28
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:36:12
GB LIVE >>> https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.0

Here is the IC for my latest set, GMK βeta.

In collaboration with Krelbit of Switchmod.net and Oblotzky, we have been able to translate one of my favorite Betamax cassette tape sleeves into a keyset, using stock GMK colors.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/718135941197332610/151110-betamax-tape-732a_19db19f43493a7afc0b377e2c65d0251.png)

The Colors

The colors used will be L9, 2B, RO2, and V2. The legends will be CR, which is black.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734541661656318082/7brD1d3h.png)

The Kits

Our kit's aren't 100% finalized. We will have either 1 base and 1 alpha/accent add-on kit, or 2 base kits. Please fill out the form below to express your interest in either.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114654824169512/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.jpg)

DO YOU LIKE JUSTSYSTEMS HIPRO? SO DO WE!

PLUS KRELBIT IS A HUGE WEEB AND WILL ONLY SELL SETS WITH SOME SORT OF JAPANESE-BASED INSPIRATION.

SO HERE'S THAT. LOOKS PRETTY SICK.


(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg)


Regarding split/extra spacebars, OG Spacekeys will be running in a few weeks on my site, so you can get L9 spacebars from that.

The Dates

The group buy will run from August 21, 2020 to September 14, 2020.

The Vendors

US - Switchmod.net
EU - Oblotzky Industries
Canada - Deskhero.ca
SEA - iLumKB
Oceania - Daily Clack
China/International - zFrontier

Last but not least, I leave you with some board renders, on the Kei and No. 2.

(https://i.imgur.com/gsVW9RS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HEruYvA.jpg)



For updates and discussion, please check the keyset section on the Switchmod.net Discord Server: discord.switchmod.net (http://discord.switchmod.net)



Please fill out the interest check form!

https://forms.gle/T1kydD3vArec2nQH8

Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: yoot on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:37:20
JS base got me feeling something!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: fcoury on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:38:20
Nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:40:07
JS base go
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: sygo_ on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:40:32
loving the colours! hopefully an aus proxy can be sorted out
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: nu_types on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:42:36
I like this a lot. Colors actually remind me of justsystems hipro...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Xerpocalypse on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:43:13
This is so hot. I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:43:27
WAGA NA WA BETA
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:44:36
Outstanding. Love the beta key and the additional accents, which feel like they maintain a sort of diagonal symmetry around the alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: self on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:44:49
niiice, gl with ic

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:45:22
loving the colours! hopefully an aus proxy can be sorted out

of course!

I like this a lot. Colors actually remind me of justsystems hipro...

 :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:46:35
Looks nice! I voted for splitting JP into it's own base kit.
ne r5 avail?  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: SantiGo on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:46:59
JS Base very hot :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: wil on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:47:50
love it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: whitty on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:52:25
I’m in for a regular base kit.

Also, I think it would be cool to add white or light grey accent keys. It would resemble the white circle things used to rewind/fast forward the cassettes and it would add some nice contrast to the grey and beige


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: demonahz on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:55:26
looking forward for this already!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: ubmit on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:56:29
ok this is nice and I will join for sure
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:12:08
To whoever begged for split spacebars in the form replies...


Regarding split/extra spacebars, OG Spacekeys will be running in a few weeks on my site, so you can get L9 spacebars from that.


https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100618.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: nmur on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:18:16
yeh
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: SenseiJia on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:19:51
Krelbit adding more weeb to the collection! Noice.

This is a great set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: MoarCoffeePlzzz on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:24:59
Halloween was the first movie I watched on Beta. Nostalgic for me. Totally in for this one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: kiandelmundo on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:27:58
Yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:35:36
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/734583952823812117/gmk_js_kit_01_base.png)

This will look great in Cherry profile. Let's do this  :thumb: Copying manofinterest's HHKB just for comparison https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6lga9f/justsystems_hipro_hhkb/

(https://i.imgur.com/H8kOG3F.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: ddnomad on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:37:49
This looks vvv nice! The only thing is that red color is too neon imo, maybe worth making it less vibrant?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:38:57
pretty cool you got such a good color match with stock colors. looking forward to this set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:39:13
Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734560371461062667/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.png)


Base kit compat is great. Mod-colored tilde and pipe would be nice to have, but I guess you omitted them on purpose, which is fine.


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734560467116359750/gmk_beta_kit_02_js.png)


The proposed JS base, if that is preferred to the smaller JS add-on:

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/734583952823812117/gmk_js_kit_01_base.png)


The JS add-on and JS base kits are missing the R1 `~ー, R3 #~む and R4 \|ろ keys needed for JIS and ISO. The JIS-only 半角/全角 key is present, so it would make sense to include these as well.
The R1 -_ほー key is missing the ー quaternary (top-right) sublegend used on ANSI JP layouts, which these kits are based on.
The R1 0(わを key has a small を quaternary sublegend when, in fact, it should be regular size (like the わ below it) since a small を character doesn't exist in hiragana. (This has been a common mistake in hiragana kits ever since GMK Serika.)

In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
All molds exist / will exist by the time this gets quoted. References:
Kana sublegends reference (https://imgur.com/a/Y3UDiMK)
Standard ANSI JP layout (https://imgur.com/a/Y2rvl1s)
GMK Bentō R2 base kit (https://i.imgur.com/VIGd4qc.png)
GMK Mecha-01 base kit (https://mitormk.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/mecha-01_base.png)

Hope this helps.


Edit: added missing links
Edit2: updated Mecha-01 link
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:39:55
This looks vvv nice! The only thing is that red color is too neon imo, maybe worth making it less vibrant?

The cassette sleeve is pretty vibrant itself. We actually had a sort of tough time even finding a perfect-match RAL tone. I believe for our purposes, and considering the goal of using stock GMK colors, RO2 will work just fine.

(https://i.imgur.com/US1SpZH.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: surfmurder on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:42:40
can I have permission to say hell yeah
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:44:34
Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/734583952823812117/gmk_js_kit_01_base.png)


This will look great in Cherry profile. Let's do this  :thumb: Copying manofinterest's HHKB just for comparison https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6lga9f/justsystems_hipro_hhkb/

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/H8kOG3F.jpg)


This is exactly the same thought I had. In for everything, 100%.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Pach on Mon, 20 July 2020, 13:02:19
cool and nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Krelbit on Mon, 20 July 2020, 13:29:51
can I have permission to say hell yeah

no swearing in my christian gmk ic thread
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: senryo on Mon, 20 July 2020, 13:53:00
a must join
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:29:49
please consider EBPT or Hammer
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: belgium_waffles on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:56:39
Would 100% be interested in the second JS base kit. Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:05:17
please consider EBPT or Hammer

I did for like four seconds

Would 100% be interested in the second JS base kit. Also please consider daily clack as oce vendor  :thumb:

Yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: futurecrime on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:39:16
Love all this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: tomu on Mon, 20 July 2020, 17:15:57
JS Base looking spicyy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 20 July 2020, 17:30:34
Interesting feel to this.  Nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 18:13:46
2 words.
JS base

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Lulzthax_ on Mon, 20 July 2020, 18:14:25
Diggin itttt
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: packman86 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 19:19:16
Ne Alt Gr avail?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Shadohhh on Mon, 20 July 2020, 19:26:05
Standard base kit looks good.

Chances on R5?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: filuwow on Mon, 20 July 2020, 19:28:13
This will look great in Cherry profile. Let's do this  :thumb: Copying manofinterest's HHKB just for comparison https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6lga9f/justsystems_hipro_hhkb/

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/H8kOG3F.jpg)


Yo, where do you get that I didn't see it on DROP, is it only avail for topre. btw, Filled the form.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 20 July 2020, 19:41:24
Standard base kit looks good.

Chances on R5?

^ same
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 20 July 2020, 20:14:06
Chances on R5?

^ same

R5!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Keebmeupscotty on Mon, 20 July 2020, 20:39:06
Chances on R5?

^ same

R5!

^ echo


Either way, count me in for that JS kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 20 July 2020, 20:43:08
wew JS niceeeee
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 20 July 2020, 20:53:11
neat
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 21:00:36
Chances on R5?

^ same

R5!

^ echo


Either way, count me in for that JS kit

Nope. gonna go R4 on this one, sorry to disappoint.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 21:09:26
JS is lovely.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 20 July 2020, 23:27:58
color me interested in weebkit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: fabijolo on Mon, 20 July 2020, 23:55:22
For me to consider this set, it'd definitely need Alice support.
But besides that, it is already banging, great job Hiney :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 20 July 2020, 23:58:10
For me to consider this set, it'd definitely need Alice support.
But besides that, it is already banging, great job Hiney :thumb:

To whoever begged for split spacebars in the form replies...


Regarding split/extra spacebars, OG Spacekeys will be running in a few weeks on my site, so you can get L9 spacebars from that.


https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100618.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: fabijolo on Tue, 21 July 2020, 00:03:54
Thank you sir, didn't catch the message previously.
Sorry for being a little dumb dumb :)
For me to consider this set, it'd definitely need Alice support.
But besides that, it is already banging, great job Hiney :thumb:

To whoever begged for split spacebars in the form replies...


Regarding split/extra spacebars, OG Spacekeys will be running in a few weeks on my site, so you can get L9 spacebars from that.


https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100618.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: kema on Tue, 21 July 2020, 00:22:07
Super in for the regular alphas with red accents, GB soon pls 😤

Also would love a R4 1.25u Caps Lock if possible (for those that like to swap caps and control)
(https://imgur.com/SMDE6NA.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 21 July 2020, 01:07:12
Both sets are good looking, I like the JS Hi-pro colorway a lot.

I’ll publicly request a couple windowed keys for caps and some 1u.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: MyManMart on Tue, 21 July 2020, 01:13:47
Hiney only drops bangers. Looks very good as always!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: lakeboredom on Tue, 21 July 2020, 02:10:58
Why you gotta go and make a classic looking set like that man!!! I can't be buying so many god damn keycaps  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:06:41
So much love for the UK ISO included in the base kit.  For that reason alone I will be buying.  An alternative MOD set might be a nice addition.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Shikada on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:11:21
So it's just a very classic colorway with orange accents?

The JS one looks nice and clean if you're into that. I like the choices made in the base kits.

Am I missing something? Is the hype just because it's hiney?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: befbef on Tue, 21 July 2020, 07:10:03
In for JS Base.

What I would like even more:
- R5
- CP instead of L9
- P3 instead of RO2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: kolyz on Tue, 21 July 2020, 07:37:13
Love the JS Base!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: tommyhongg on Tue, 21 July 2020, 08:03:33
Both base kits are very nice. Great job :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: kidviddy on Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:50:06
In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
  • Add R1 `~ー
  • Add R3 #~む
  • Change R4 \|む to \|ろ
  • Change R1 -_ほ to -_ほー
  • Change R1 0(わを to have a large を sublegend

I agree with these recommendations.  The last two are required to make even the ANSI layout correct, which should probably be a minimum bar, and as for the first three -- while they wouldn't go so far as to offer full support for JIS keyboards (which I would love, but unfortunately would require a much more extensive kit) -- they would at least allow for correct placement of alphanumeric and kana characters on JIS keyboards, meaning that only the punctuation is off. I believe the same is true of ISO boards, although I will defer to konstantin there as he has done more research on the state of kana input on non-JIS boards than I have.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: jerrolds on Tue, 21 July 2020, 10:25:50
Oh no - i need this now. BETA was life as a kid, too poor to buy VHS when my family bet on the wrong horse.  Movie selection was so bad.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 21 July 2020, 10:47:15
In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
  • Add R1 `~ー
  • Add R3 #~む
  • Change R4 \|む to \|ろ
  • Change R1 -_ほ to -_ほー
  • Change R1 0(わを to have a large を sublegend

I agree with these recommendations.  The last two are required to make even the ANSI layout correct, which should probably be a minimum bar, and as for the first three -- while they wouldn't go so far as to offer full support for JIS keyboards (which I would love, but unfortunately would require a much more extensive kit) -- they would at least allow for correct placement of alphanumeric and kana characters on JIS keyboards, meaning that only the punctuation is off. I believe the same is true of ISO boards, although I will defer to konstantin there as he has done more research on the state of kana input on non-JIS boards than I have.

I remember folks waging this war for GMK Laser as well. I completely agree that full JIS support would be amazing, I think it's in less demand that NordDe etc...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 21 July 2020, 10:50:31
Any chance you could add a 2u shift?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: OtherAndrew on Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:02:55
In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
  • Add R1 `~ー
  • Add R3 #~む
  • Change R4 \|む to \|ろ
  • Change R1 -_ほ to -_ほー
  • Change R1 0(わを to have a large を sublegend

I agree with these recommendations.  The last two are required to make even the ANSI layout correct, which should probably be a minimum bar, and as for the first three -- while they wouldn't go so far as to offer full support for JIS keyboards (which I would love, but unfortunately would require a much more extensive kit) -- they would at least allow for correct placement of alphanumeric and kana characters on JIS keyboards, meaning that only the punctuation is off. I believe the same is true of ISO boards, although I will defer to konstantin there as he has done more research on the state of kana input on non-JIS boards than I have.

I agree with the last two suggestions as well, along with adding ¥ to \|む
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 21 July 2020, 14:06:32
Oh no - i need this now. BETA was life as a kid, too poor to buy VHS when my family bet on the wrong horse.  Movie selection was so bad.

We used to pile in a car and drive 15 miles to rent movies for a weekend as that was where the beta selection was. Still have beta transformers tapes...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 21 July 2020, 19:15:55
In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
  • Add R1 `~ー
  • Add R3 #~む
  • Change R4 \|む to \|ろ
  • Change R1 -_ほ to -_ほー
  • Change R1 0(わを to have a large を sublegend

I agree with these recommendations.  The last two are required to make even the ANSI layout correct, which should probably be a minimum bar, and as for the first three -- while they wouldn't go so far as to offer full support for JIS keyboards (which I would love, but unfortunately would require a much more extensive kit) -- they would at least allow for correct placement of alphanumeric and kana characters on JIS keyboards, meaning that only the punctuation is off. I believe the same is true of ISO boards, although I will defer to konstantin there as he has done more research on the state of kana input on non-JIS boards than I have.

I remember folks waging this war for GMK Laser as well. I completely agree that full JIS support would be amazing, I think it's in less demand that NordDe etc...

less demand than NordDe is very close to zero
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: kmba on Tue, 21 July 2020, 20:29:21
I am an alpha dog.  I do not support this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: mcmaxmcmc on Tue, 21 July 2020, 21:12:35
Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734560371461062667/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.png)


Base kit compat is great. Mod-colored tilde and pipe would be nice to have, but I guess you omitted them on purpose, which is fine.


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734560467116359750/gmk_beta_kit_02_js.png)


The proposed JS base, if that is preferred to the smaller JS add-on:

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/734583952823812117/gmk_js_kit_01_base.png)


The JS add-on and JS base kits are missing the R1 `~ー, R3 #~む and R4 \|ろ keys needed for JIS and ISO. The JIS-only 半角/全角 key is present, so it would make sense to include these as well.
The R1 -_ほー key is missing the ー quaternary (top-right) sublegend used on ANSI JP layouts, which these kits are based on.
The R1 0(わを key has a small を quaternary sublegend when, in fact, it should be regular size (like the わ below it) since a small を character doesn't exist in hiragana. (This has been a common mistake in hiragana kits ever since GMK Serika.)

In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
  • Add R1 `~ー
  • Add R3 #~む
  • Change R4 \|む to \|ろ
  • Change R1 -_ほ to -_ほー
  • Change R1 0(わを to have a large を sublegend
All molds exist / will exist by the time this gets quoted. References:
Kana sublegends reference (https://imgur.com/a/Y3UDiMK)
Standard ANSI JP layout (https://imgur.com/a/Y2rvl1s)
GMK Bentō R2 base kit (https://i.imgur.com/VIGd4qc.png)
GMK Mecha-01 base kit (https://mitormk.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/mecha-01_base.png)

Hope this helps.


Edit: added missing links
Edit2: updated Mecha-01 link

I agree with you completely.  I'm tired of JP sets not properly supporting JIS like it should be. 

In therms of the set... Great colorway, probably going to be a buy. :)  Can we also have some smaller spacebars?  I think JIS should come with smaller spacebar for all the mods the layout has.  That'd be a nice addition.

I'm still a bit weary of the ETD of the set and the terrible QC though...  but this looks great.  Hopefully it'll look great out of production too!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 21 July 2020, 21:13:19
Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734560371461062667/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.png)


Base kit compat is great. Mod-colored tilde and pipe would be nice to have, but I guess you omitted them on purpose, which is fine.


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680452738860974255/734560467116359750/gmk_beta_kit_02_js.png)


The proposed JS base, if that is preferred to the smaller JS add-on:

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/734583952823812117/gmk_js_kit_01_base.png)


The JS add-on and JS base kits are missing the R1 `~ー, R3 #~む and R4 \|ろ keys needed for JIS and ISO. The JIS-only 半角/全角 key is present, so it would make sense to include these as well.
The R1 -_ほー key is missing the ー quaternary (top-right) sublegend used on ANSI JP layouts, which these kits are based on.
The R1 0(わを key has a small を quaternary sublegend when, in fact, it should be regular size (like the わ below it) since a small を character doesn't exist in hiragana. (This has been a common mistake in hiragana kits ever since GMK Serika.)

In summary, these are the suggested changes for the JS kits:
  • Add R1 `~ー
  • Add R3 #~む
  • Change R4 \|む to \|ろ
  • Change R1 -_ほ to -_ほー
  • Change R1 0(わを to have a large を sublegend
All molds exist / will exist by the time this gets quoted. References:
Kana sublegends reference (https://imgur.com/a/Y3UDiMK)
Standard ANSI JP layout (https://imgur.com/a/Y2rvl1s)
GMK Bentō R2 base kit (https://i.imgur.com/VIGd4qc.png)
GMK Mecha-01 base kit (https://mitormk.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/mecha-01_base.png)

Hope this helps.


Edit: added missing links
Edit2: updated Mecha-01 link

I agree with you completely.  I'm tired of JP sets not properly supporting JIS like it should be. 

In therms of the set... Great colorway, probably going to be a buy. :)  Can we also have some smaller spacebars?  I think JIS should come with smaller spacebar for all the mods the layout has.  That'd be a nice addition.

I'm still a bit weary of the ETD of the set and the terrible QC though...  but this looks great.  Hopefully it'll look great out of production too!
OG Spacekeys (running in August) is the answer to smaller spacebars


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:53:47
Updated the vendors listing!

US - Switchmod.net
EU - Oblotzky Industries
Canada - Deskhero.ca
SEA - iLumKB
Oceania - Daily Clack
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: -Jerry- on Wed, 22 July 2020, 17:35:02
(https://i.imgur.com/mgdmRCP.jpg)
They call him... Betamax!

It's a lovely colourway, I love that retro style.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: kimchijody on Thu, 23 July 2020, 01:42:36
YO HINEY THIS IS FIRE

All hail 90s weeb base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 23 July 2020, 07:39:10
Ok, i need this.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 23 July 2020, 07:45:36
Ok, i need this.  :eek:

sames
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: udller on Thu, 23 July 2020, 11:39:05
i like this. most likely will buy :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: snelltrail on Fri, 24 July 2020, 02:14:05
JS base pls.

Also pls consider adding the beta key to the JS base coz all weebs are betas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: ttom on Fri, 24 July 2020, 12:01:13
normally I'm not into weeb sets but that js base got me feeling some kinda way
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: maximize on Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:28:41
The set looks great, but, uh... Pardon me... You have a favorite cassette tape sleeve?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:36:35
The set looks great, but, uh... Pardon me... You have a favorite cassette tape sleeve?
you don't?


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Hyphen on Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:54:01
I'm definitely interested in the JS Base option. That set takes my vote.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: surfmurder on Sat, 25 July 2020, 12:03:26
βeta so nut
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Sshimosawa on Sat, 25 July 2020, 14:24:42
Wow. This is great.


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: desipalen on Sun, 26 July 2020, 09:06:16
That's a neat idea. I always enjoy seeing what inspired the colorway.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: ThePanduuh on Sun, 26 July 2020, 10:13:01
hiney beta?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: koenoe on Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:26:53
I need this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 July 2020, 20:15:51
The set looks great, but, uh... Pardon me... You have a favorite cassette tape sleeve?

this is a keyboard hobby we're all weird bro
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Rayndalf on Sun, 26 July 2020, 22:02:56
Here's a similar photo in worse lighting with L9, U9, N9, CR, and V2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 27 July 2020, 08:44:46
Just noticed the JS kit is missing the red R4 1u Fn key.  Will that be added to the kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 27 July 2020, 09:23:21
Any more renders planned? Would like to see what it looks like on a more realistic render of silver or grey.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 27 July 2020, 09:32:56
Any more renders planned? Would like to see what it looks like on a more realistic render of silver or grey.

Working on more renders
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: mimalik on Mon, 27 July 2020, 09:46:24
That JS is giving me tingles in all the right places.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: MdotMaxson on Mon, 27 July 2020, 10:11:40
Damn. Those stock colors are a carbon copy of the beta tape.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: djmantis on Mon, 27 July 2020, 16:28:10
Does the fact that this is stock colors mean that this can "jump" the current GMK wait time?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 27 July 2020, 16:35:41
Does the fact that this is stock colors mean that this can "jump" the current GMK wait time?

Just 8 months and two pushbacks instead of 11 and being Dracula’d.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 27 July 2020, 16:49:43
Does the fact that this is stock colors mean that this can "jump" the current GMK wait time?

Just 8 months and two pushbacks instead of 11 and being Dracula’d.

good one lol

yes, there should not be a color matching phase as the colors are all stock GMK colors. I do not think it will "jump" anything in the queue as those orders were placed before this one will be.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 28 July 2020, 11:32:45
Does the fact that this is stock colors mean that this can "jump" the current GMK wait time?

Just 8 months and two pushbacks instead of 11 and being Dracula’d.

good one lol

yes, there should not be a color matching phase as the colors are all stock GMK colors. I do not think it will "jump" anything in the queue as those orders were placed before this one will be.

GMK won't actually put you into the production queue until all the vendors have submitted their purchase orders - after the gb period
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: surfmurder on Sat, 08 August 2020, 23:51:18
hell yeah
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: parablol on Sun, 09 August 2020, 01:27:46
4.5u space for JIS Filco boards would be nice
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 09 August 2020, 23:04:13
4.5u space for JIS Filco boards would be nice

I do not believe that GMK has this mold, and we are unwilling to pay for the mold to keep the cost of the set lower.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 09 August 2020, 23:06:55
Gonna do 2 base kits or a JS alphas kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 09 August 2020, 23:44:36
Gonna do 2 base kits or a JS alphas kit?

Waiting to get the preliminary quotes from GMK to make any decisions there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 10 August 2020, 09:28:50
JS >>> base kit. Throw an orange key or two in there and thats all you need.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: whitemamba on Mon, 10 August 2020, 13:00:22
JS >>> base kit. Throw an orange key or two in there and thats all you need.

+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: pace8500 on Mon, 10 August 2020, 13:43:08
.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: fleeceman on Mon, 10 August 2020, 15:43:29
+1 for the JS base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: Daddyfatsax on Mon, 10 August 2020, 18:05:25
Another +1 for JS base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 10 August 2020, 18:27:57
ya ya ya don't worry

the IC results overwhelmingly supported the JS base as well, we are waiting on the GMK quotes to make any decisions though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 10 August 2020, 18:40:34
That's cool, old packaging is sweet :cool:


I especially like old Kodak film box branding.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 10 August 2020, 21:00:05
That's cool, old packaging is sweet :cool:


I especially like old Kodak film box branding.

i wish we could use the old GMK trays but nope

Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: johnnysstash on Tue, 11 August 2020, 15:06:37
well played hiney, forsure in for JS base!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: Agilr on Fri, 14 August 2020, 19:01:53
I'm a beta for βeta (and Hiney) :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: CustomerSupport on Sat, 15 August 2020, 12:41:14
This does look good. May have to join in a future run though. GL!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 17 August 2020, 12:53:15
Hiney, that video sums up exactly how I feel about the packaging as well.  Horrible in every way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 18 August 2020, 23:45:09
I suspect this has already been caught, but the scooped F and J keys in the JS base kit don't have sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 19 August 2020, 11:01:50
I suspect this has already been caught, but the scooped F and J keys in the JS base kit don't have sublegends.

Yup that was already fixed, I just forgot to update the OP.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 20 August 2020, 16:21:30
finalized kits

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114654824169512/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg)


OG Spacekeys is currently running on my site (link in my sig). If you want spacekeys for Beta, get them there!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0074/9784/2752/products/l9-u9.png?v=1596427212)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: snelltrail on Thu, 20 August 2020, 19:58:13
Hell yeah JS Base let’s go.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 21 August 2020, 15:17:22
finalized kits

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114654824169512/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.jpg)


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg)



OG Spacekeys is currently running on my site (link in my sig). If you want spacekeys for Beta, get them there!

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0074/9784/2752/products/l9-u9.png?v=1596427212)


Shame that R1 `~ー didn't make it in. But at least that 半角/全角 mold is getting made, which is good.

Other changes are on point. GG hiney & krelbit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 21 August 2020, 15:40:39
finalized kits

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114654824169512/gmk_beta_kit_01_base.jpg)


Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735179686186844202/746114733308117053/gmk_js_kit_01_base.jpg)



OG Spacekeys is currently running on my site (link in my sig). If you want spacekeys for Beta, get them there!

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0074/9784/2752/products/l9-u9.png?v=1596427212)


Shame that R1 `~ー didn't make it in. But at least that 半角/全角 mold is getting made, which is good.

Other changes are on point. GG hiney & krelbit

Thanks! yeah, sorry about the R1 key. decided against it.

the GB is slightly delayed, will start either Monday Aug 24 or at the end of the next week.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 21
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 21 August 2020, 15:57:57
Thanks! yeah, sorry about the R1 key. decided against it.

No that's totally understandable, JIS is a fairly obscure use case. Just thought it'd be nice to pair it with the width conversion key for completion's sake. There's still physical compat for it, so it's all good :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: Fuzon on Fri, 21 August 2020, 20:44:47
It would be nice if you could make the red accents available as a stand alone for the base kit. I am not a weeb but like the colors..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 21 August 2020, 23:00:50
It would be nice if you could make the red accents available as a stand alone for the base kit. I am not a weeb but like the colors..

shame!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: platypusduck on Sat, 22 August 2020, 01:09:52
Non-JS is the superior kit

Let's go boys
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sat, 22 August 2020, 03:43:29
1000% in this set is fantasticky.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: ddnomad on Sat, 22 August 2020, 10:15:34
Non-JS is the superior kit

Let's go boys
Sirrr I must disagree. Weeb base is clearly superior
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 22 August 2020, 10:28:56
It's that red.  Everyone wants the JS version b/c the red accents are 🔥
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: platypusduck on Sat, 22 August 2020, 10:51:41
Non-JS is the superior kit

Let's go boys
Sirrr I must disagree. Weeb base is clearly superior

Good thing we can buy both and scatter the unwanted ones to the wind
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: SpinningHook on Sat, 22 August 2020, 11:00:24
Digging the NES-style tone of the JS Base, even it wasn't necessarily intended.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: nu_types on Sat, 22 August 2020, 11:18:47
With the GB start date shifted to next week, will the GB run past September 14th? Running a few days longer might be helpful for those who are paid bi-monthly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: dom on Sat, 22 August 2020, 17:36:04
Another ... MUST BUY! Seriously, this is a classy one! Also, appreciate the contrast! :) Can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 23 August 2020, 00:19:00
With the GB start date shifted to next week, will the GB run past September 14th? Running a few days longer might be helpful for those who are paid bi-monthly.

the end date will be adjusted accordingly
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: vladimir108 on Sun, 23 August 2020, 12:39:40
Hello guy, I would like to ask what is original function of 1U "red keycap with 2 lines of JP letters" next to grey Esc in JS Base set? Is it a "JP Esc" key or something completely different? Google Translator translated as: "Half size/Full width". Thanks for explanation.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: Fredington on Sun, 23 August 2020, 12:48:41
Hello guy, I would like to ask what is original function of 1U "red keycap with 2 lines of JP letters" next to grey Esc in JS Base set? Is it a "JP Esc" key or something completely different? Google Translator translated as: "Half size/Full width". Thanks for explanation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-width_kana
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: Cujo96 on Sun, 23 August 2020, 23:46:21
WEEBS OUT NORMAL BASE BEST KIT
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 24 August 2020, 00:06:55
Sorry about the slight delay.

The group buy will run from Friday, August 28, 2020 until Monday, September 21, 2020.

Vendors/Pricing:


US - Switchmod.net

Base Kits - $138.00 USD
Rama Cap - $38.00 USD

EU - Oblotzky Industries

Base Kits - €129.00 EUR
Rama Cap - €42.00 EUR

Canada - Deskhero.ca

Base Kits - $183.00 CAD
Rama Cap - $56.00 CAD

SEA - iLumKB

Base Kits - $198.00 SGD
Rama Cap - $56.00 SGD

Oceania - Daily Clack

Base Kits - $206.00 AUD
Rama Cap - $58.00 AUD

China/International - zFrontier

Base Kits - 969.00 RMB
Rama Cap -  275.00 RMB

Oh, and here's the Rama Cap!

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718135683666935900/739181696599195758/image0.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 28
Post by: dom on Mon, 24 August 2020, 00:13:38
🙌  🙌  🙌
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching Week of August 24
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 00:29:07
Hello guy, I would like to ask what is original function of 1U "red keycap with 2 lines of JP letters" next to grey Esc in JS Base set? Is it a "JP Esc" key or something completely different? Google Translator translated as: "Half size/Full width". Thanks for explanation.

It is not an Esc key. JIS (https://imgur.com/0QqoSc7) keyboards use this key for toggling between half-width and full-width (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfwidth_and_fullwidth_forms) characters, as well as toggling IME (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_method) input on and off (the function labeled Kanji). You can find more information about this particular key here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_input_keys#Half-width/Full-width/Kanji).

That being said, nothing's stopping you from using this key as an Esc novelty if you want to :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 28
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 24 August 2020, 08:00:15
Love the RAMA cap.  I don't usually love single caps like this but that is perfect with this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK βeta - Launching August 28
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 28 August 2020, 15:12:36
The group buy is now live! https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.0