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Title: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: john08099 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:21:26
KK64 Keyboard Kit Album: https://imgur.com/a/LUNms03
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(https://i.imgur.com/i9psdsz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iI97YpY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/07l1fUD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TyNMpHU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kV6ayLl.png)

Spec:
Aluminum 6063
Type-C
Wired
Single backlight (Need to purchase and install switch LED yourself)
KK75 Software - Remap keys, Marco, Musical rhythmNote: If we have over 100 orders, we will provide QMK version instead of KK64 software)
Support PCB Mounted Stabilizers
Keyboard Angle: 7.49 degrees(Angle adjustable with the slots)
Keyboard size: 309.18*149.57*34.66 mm

Case:
Angel White
Elegant Grey
Mysterious Black
Prussian Blue
Pink
Passionate Red

The standard kit comes with:
Aluminum alloy case * 1(Top Mount)
Non-hot-swap PCB * 1
Aluminum Plate * 1
Hub*1
Bracket*1

Price:
keyboard kit:US$220-US$250+Paypal fee+shipping fee
MOQ: No limit
Estimated GB: if we get positive feedback from IC, we will open the GB asap
If you have any suggestions, please feel free to comment.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: Bonsa on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:31:05
wow
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: piit79 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:40:27
Looks classy and pretty unique, I like it!

I wish more boards included USB hubs, that's very useful. Well done!
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: huey on Tue, 11 August 2020, 05:42:10
Interesting board, here are some points of consideration:

 - The adjustable angle is interesting but I think it's a bit of a brutal and jarring implementation, nor do I care much for the bracket.

 - The USB hub is certainly interesting and maybe useful/desirable for some, but I'm unsure if this is the target audience for them.
 
 - "(Note: If we have over 100 orders, we will provide QMK version instead of KK64 software)" Please don't use proprietary software. QMK/VIA is a community staple that is a standard in which most pretty much expected for custom boards. This also feels like you're holding it at ransom; Like if you don't sell enough, you won't bother.

 - This IC doesn't specifically mention what kind of mount it is, but I can see it is tray mount. I think a top mount would be a much better fit and looks like it can be achievable.

 - I'm skeptical at the price, though I hope it'll be achievable.

 - The LED slots(?) at the front of the board are a big no no in my eyes. The front bezel looks too thick to me and removing them would kill two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: marshskitow on Tue, 11 August 2020, 06:41:29
I am surprised by the cost. Hope it’s true .
Is there iso ?


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Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: danieljgrouse on Tue, 11 August 2020, 07:07:36
The layout in the renders with keycaps and the renders of the plate don't match. What layouts does it actually support?
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: fcoury on Tue, 11 August 2020, 08:22:31
Love the design, my only wish was that you'd consider a regular ansi or tsangan layout instead of the 68 keys :)
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: neutralstate on Tue, 11 August 2020, 09:54:36
Love the design, my only wish was that you'd consider a regular ansi or tsangan layout instead of the 68 keys :)
yup would prefer tsangan as well

edit: a sound test would be nice too!
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 11 August 2020, 12:09:14
Watching this one closely for sure. It's not often you get an integrated usb hub.

What's the front height of the board?
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: chanceofthat on Tue, 11 August 2020, 16:47:59
I wish the USB hub was Type C instead, if it were this would be a definite cop.


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Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit (USB hub design)
Post by: john08099 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 20:20:58
Looks classy and pretty unique, I like it!

I wish more boards included USB hubs, that's very useful. Well done!

Thank you, we are actually considering to change one USB port to Type-c, then we will have 3 USB port, 1 more type-c port. How do you like this change?
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit
Post by: john08099 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 20:29:23
I wish the USB hub was Type C instead, if it were this would be a definite cop.


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We are considering changing one USB port to type-c, you want more type-c?
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: dibstern on Tue, 11 August 2020, 20:44:48
I wish the USB hub was Type C instead, if it were this would be a definite cop.


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We are considering changing one USB port to type-c, you want more type-c?

Yes, +1 on this, also the USB hub on the left instead of the right doesn't make much sense when mice are almost always positioned on the right

Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 11 August 2020, 23:59:08
Looks super interesting, would definitely be in if you guys can hit that price range :-O
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: kmao on Wed, 12 August 2020, 03:05:07
I am in
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: vaf1en on Wed, 12 August 2020, 03:30:28
This looks interesting and is definitely one that stands out compared to other boards in IC.
I would like one.

Others have mentioned it as well, but I would like to second the motion that QMK needs to be guaranteed and not a 'maybe' hinging on some MOQ being met.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: geekit on Wed, 12 August 2020, 05:37:08
I assume it's GK64 layout, with 2U left shift & 1U right shift.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: X_point on Wed, 12 August 2020, 15:34:52
would be an instabuy with a tsangan/hhkb/wkl layout... I use the r-shift too often to change it to a 1u.. v interesting design though..
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: Tvehelli on Wed, 12 August 2020, 16:12:48
I am a fan of the overall design, but one thing I would prefer to see is the keyboard set at a set typing angle and allowing you to remove the bolts that poke out the side to then be flush with the case. Really hope you will go with QMK regardless of what the order number turns out to be. Overall if you manage to make it to that price point I would definitely like to try and get my hands on one so I'll be watching this one closely.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: Tymm0 on Wed, 12 August 2020, 16:22:56
Appreciate the unique design. Would be interesting to see what the bottom looks like and what mounting type as asked above. I do like the usb hub and changing one to USB-C would be a cool idea. Very neat to see a larger company interested in the custom space.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: akira1883 on Wed, 12 August 2020, 20:18:35
what do you think about port for memory card reader??
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: john08099 on Wed, 12 August 2020, 20:39:49
Appreciate the unique design. Would be interesting to see what the bottom looks like and what mounting type as asked above. I do like the usb hub and changing one to USB-C would be a cool idea. Very neat to see a larger company interested in the custom space.
Top MOUNT ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: gorbachev on Wed, 12 August 2020, 20:52:33
Very interesting, unique design.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: This_Neon on Thu, 13 August 2020, 03:59:05
Do you know what an MOQ is??
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: john08099 on Fri, 14 August 2020, 03:43:38
Do you know what an MOQ is??
No MOQ. If MOQ over 100 orders, we will provide QMK version instead of KK64 software
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: SxM Designs on Fri, 14 August 2020, 04:09:00
Do you know what an MOQ is??
No MOQ. If MOQ over 100 orders, we will provide QMK version instead of KK64 software

Why not just have qmk and via compatibility from the start. This would ensure you get more sales.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: VagueOrigin on Fri, 14 August 2020, 05:22:12
Do you know what an MOQ is??
No MOQ. If MOQ over 100 orders, we will provide QMK version instead of KK64 software

Why not just have qmk and via compatibility from the start. This would ensure you get more sales.
Yeahhhh... don't quite get that one. Either use it or don't.

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Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: neutralstate on Fri, 14 August 2020, 19:39:36
very interested in this, but is there any prototype or typing test that we can see / hear?
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: blacksimon on Sun, 16 August 2020, 10:12:40
I really would have liked to see this design in 65% :(
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: john08099 on Mon, 17 August 2020, 04:30:26
very interested in this, but is there any prototype or typing test that we can see / hear?
Not sure, we need to confirm the final design.
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: Retne on Mon, 17 August 2020, 13:30:05
I like the idea of having a USB hub on the keyboard but I'm not a big fan of 60%s.

Also I think you should just support QMK out the gate instead of trying to have it behind an MOQ.  Isn't it more work to make your own firmware than to use something already available like QMK unless you are using a non-supported MCU?
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: ddrfraser1 on Mon, 17 August 2020, 14:24:57
Whoa, this looks kick ass! Good job.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: john08099 on Mon, 17 August 2020, 21:08:51
I like the idea of having a USB hub on the keyboard but I'm not a big fan of 60%s.

Also I think you should just support QMK out the gate instead of trying to have it behind an MOQ.  Isn't it more work to make your own firmware than to use something already available like QMK unless you are using a non-supported MCU?

QMK PCB requires a MOQ, but if using current one there will not have such requirement and can secure this GB will happen since we already have this software for previous kits. We will try our best to meet the MOQ or we just store some if orders are near MOQ :))
Title: Re: [IC] KK64 keyboard kit [USB hub Design]
Post by: TheBossWasHere on Sat, 22 August 2020, 22:10:15
What is the actual layout of the board? The renders with and without keycaps show different layouts.