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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: niplfsh on Sat, 17 July 2010, 19:44:25
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I'm looking for opinions on this keyboard... I like the design better than the newer Das's. I've also had my eye on the Majestouch... it's very attractive but also pretty expensive. I like blank keycaps, because I don't look at the keyboard anyway and the idea of flustering anyone who tries to use my computer is appealing. If you could get a Das II on the cheap, would you do it? Are there any major annoyances that I should know about?
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It is basically a Cherry G80-3000 with blue switches and blank keys. In my opinion there aren't major annoyances, but keep in mind that:
- Its construction feels a bit cheap compared to higher quality and plate-mounted keyboards such as Filcos. On the other hand some people prefer the key feel of PCB-mounted cherry switches.
- Its footprint is foolishly big for a full layout keyboard.
- There is a green (i.e. stronger) switch under the spacebar, which some people don't like.
- It is 2-key rollover and the IBM style matrix can make your favorite FPS game unplayable.
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- It is 2-key rollover and the IBM style matrix can make your favorite FPS game unplayable.
What does this mean? I mean, I did have some tough time with some games because with Das I had to take an entirely different approach to it. In FPSes, haven't had trouble.
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@Henry : Thanx for the tip about the green cherry spacebar. I updated my DAS K2 review (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/keyboard-das-k2) with a new picture of it.... :-)
No NKRO? Didn't know that -> also updated the review because of this.
Regards
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It is a good typing clicky keyboard. If cheap, I'd take it anytime. Still prefer the the platemounted switches, though.
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What does this mean? I mean, I did have some tough time with some games because with Das I had to take an entirely different approach to it. In FPSes, haven't had trouble.
I'm not much of a gamer, I said FPSes because such games become really unplayable if a key combo you use happens to block, while you might be able to find a workaround in a RTS, for instance.
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Thanks for the responses... I'm not really worried about the rollover, I have an old N52 laying around for the rare occasion that I play an FPS. I do mostly turn-based strategy nowadays (gettin' old... :biggrin: ).
I think I'll just go for it. This being my first mechanical keyboard I'm a bit paranoid about spending $150 for a Filco right away.
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@Henry : Thanx for the tip about the green cherry spacebar. I updated my DAS K2 review (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/keyboard-das-k2) with a new picture of it.... :-)
No NKRO? Didn't know that -> also updated the review because of this.
Regards
Did you really pay €150 for this keyboard? Don't get me wrong, I love my G80-3000 a lot.
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Thanks for the responses... I'm not really worried about the rollover, I have an old N52 laying around for the rare occasion that I play an FPS. I do mostly turn-based strategy nowadays (gettin' old... :biggrin: ).
I think I'll just go for it. This being my first mechanical keyboard I'm a bit paranoid about spending $150 for a Filco right away.
How much are you paying if I may ask? I have the same model but with Chinese characters on the keys beside the Western Alphabet. It's not a fancy keyboad, and it may feel cheap like some have said, but make no mistake, it's a great keyboard. I love mine so much that I have a spare. This is the only keyboard for which I bought a spare.
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Did you really pay €150 for this keyboard? Don't get me wrong, I love my G80-3000 a lot.
Yes, it amounted to that sum. ( Board , postal , taxes ) It was a long time ago though so this sum is an estimate.
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I'm not much of a gamer, I said FPSes because such games become really unplayable if a key combo you use happens to block, while you might be able to find a workaround in a RTS, for instance.
Mileages do vary, it seems.
I've played mostly FPS for the last decade on a Dell QuietKey (I doubt it's full NKRO), and never really had any problem with it besides the very occasional key not registering while I was crouching AND zooming AND moving forward AND straffing AND firing AND... well, you get the idea.
Also, from what I gathered around forums, it seems like quite a few people have problems with 2-KRO because they are using arrows keys or numpad for their movements.
If I'm not mistaken, the matrix at/around WASD is made in such a way that 95% of the time you won't be bothered (yep, that's a highly scientific statement).
Maybe that was your problem, Henry... or you may want to elaborate a bit more on "unplayable"... though it might not be the best place to do that :smile:
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Yes, it amounted to that sum. ( Board , postal , taxes ) It was a long time ago though so this sum is an estimate.
I see. Taxes and shipping can add up pretty quickly.
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In the area qwerasdfyxcv the G80-3000 has a NKRO of 4, i play numerous FPS games and never had problems with keys not registering.
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How much are you paying if I may ask? I have the same model but with Chinese characters on the keys beside the Western Alphabet. It's not a fancy keyboad, and it may feel cheap like some have said, but make no mistake, it's a great keyboard. I love mine so much that I have a spare. This is the only keyboard for which I bought a spare.
I paid $65 for it... I thought that seemed like a decent price. I hope I'm right :P
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I paid $65 for it... I thought that seemed like a decent price. I hope I'm right :P
That's a very decent price! :-)
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Yeah, and the keyboard just arrived today. I'm typing this out on it. Man, I like this thing... already feels way better than my G11.