Post by: BlueberryIsHere on Mon, 14 September 2020, 15:19:38
Post by: fpazos on Mon, 14 September 2020, 16:33:04
First learn a CAD program. Fusion360 is quite easy and you can have a hobbist free license. If you have a 3d printer you can create easier stuff first for your home to learn about tolerances an such things.
Then you have to think if you want the case for a custom keeb or an already made one. In the first case you also need to create the plate and maybe the pcb if it isn't for a commercial one.
In the second case you need to reverse engineer the mounting and dimensions using a caliper to take meassures and also for the connection to the pc.
Next with the mounting in place. Create a case around it and make it your own style.
Just keep in mind that this is a long work even for someone that knows how to do it. But if you think you'll enjoy it go for it!!
Post by: Leslieann on Mon, 14 September 2020, 21:47:34
You go to Keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) and design a layout
Then you head over to Swill's KB builder (http://builder.swillkb.com/), it will generate CAD files based on that.
From this point it gets a LOT more difficult.
Head over to the Kalerator (https://kalerator.clueboard.co/) to help automate the pcb files you need. It doesn't do everything but it helps. This means learning how to do up pcb files. The alternative is to just hand wire it. I recommend at least understanding hand wiring as it will help you understand what you will be doing in electronics CAD. there's plenty of tutorials for hand wiring, less for the electronics CAD.
From there you need to send the PCB cad files out for manufacturing (or hand wire later) and send the case CAD files for cutting or use those to generate STL files you can 3d print. This means learning cad.
Lastly you need to go over to qmk.fm (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/) and do up your firmware. This means reading a lot of documentation, which you may want to read before you start your PCB since it can only run on certain processors and use certain LEDs.
It's still a whole lot of work and learning before you get everything finished then find you made a mistake or decide to change it. it's not a 3 hour project that's for certain.
Post by: BlueberryIsHere on Tue, 15 September 2020, 16:20:53
It's actually a lot easier than that.
You go to Keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) and design a layout
Then you head over to Swill's KB builder (http://builder.swillkb.com/), it will generate CAD files based on that.
From this point it gets a LOT more difficult.
Head over to the Kalerator (https://kalerator.clueboard.co/) to help automate the pcb files you need. It doesn't do everything but it helps. This means learning how to do up pcb files. The alternative is to just hand wire it. I recommend at least understanding hand wiring as it will help you understand what you will be doing in electronics CAD. there's plenty of tutorials for hand wiring, less for the electronics CAD.
From there you need to send the PCB cad files out for manufacturing (or hand wire later) and send the case CAD files for cutting or use those to generate STL files you can 3d print. This means learning cad.
Lastly you need to go over to qmk.fm (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/) and do up your firmware. This means reading a lot of documentation, which you may want to read before you start your PCB since it can only run on certain processors and use certain LEDs.
It's still a whole lot of work and learning before you get everything finished then find you made a mistake or decide to change it. it's not a 3 hour project that's for certain.
Kalerator doesn't work. It just gives me an internal server error. Any other options?
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 15 September 2020, 22:11:22
Post by: Rayndalf on Wed, 16 September 2020, 02:17:50
Post by: vvp on Wed, 16 September 2020, 15:23:29
That allows you to leave out all the design PCB magic.
Post by: looted on Wed, 16 September 2020, 20:05:38
http://www.keyboardcad.com/ for an stl file to print yourself.
http://builder.swillkb.com/ other autocad site, but you can have lasergist cut it for you for average to low cost.
I have sourced other sites and they average about 100$ and several can not use the generated files from the other sites.
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Fairchild-Semiconductor/1N4148/?qs=i4Fj9T%2FoRm8RMUhj5DeFQg== for diodes.
https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html for controller.
https://medium.com/cracked-the-code/a-complete-guide-to-building-a-hand-wired-keyboard-9d8c9cc7b041 is a 'guide' for hand wiring.
https://builder.mrkeebs.com/ for firmware / wiring diagram.
Must read https://docs.qmk.fm/#/ for any firmware design.
Key caps 35$-100$
(cherry mx) switches 20$ for 10 (unless bulk order then may have wait time of a couple months depending on source) 140$
pcb 35$
Case 30 - 100$
Avg price 240$ to build yourself.
Hand wired as low as 85$ (strip option for below keyboard and get a premade plate).
If thats too much for you....
You can also just go buy https://redragonusa.com/products/keyboard/K552-N-2/241 for 35$ to try, dissassemble (like I did) or strip for parts.
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Post by: Rayndalf on Wed, 16 September 2020, 20:19:59
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/cherry-switches?variant=12495307669597
Amoeba single switch PCBs can also simplify handwiring
Post by: fpazos on Thu, 17 September 2020, 01:36:58
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 7 mediante Tapatalk
Post by: katotaka on Thu, 17 September 2020, 14:18:47
Post by: looted on Thu, 17 September 2020, 14:26:57
shameless plug for my board (https://youtu.be/rEtZzcxQ_pA)
not a fan, split keyboards are the worst post interruptions.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200917/7b6e8f1c574a73671b1d67195a38aaac.jpg)
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Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 17 September 2020, 15:21:24
shameless plug for my board (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103881.msg2844774) :p
Split orthos are great. I'd consider turning one half the space bar into a "backspace bar", and possibly integrating the arrow keys on the bottom row.
The integrated numpad eats desk space for breakfast, but vintage splits had the same problem
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Thu, 17 September 2020, 15:57:06
http://builder.swillkb.com/ other autocad site, but you can have lasergist cut it for you for average to low cost.
Don't use swill's plate gen. It produces CRAZY fractional dimensions (like thousandths or millionths of a mm). It's a nightmare to import those files and use them for a base for a case in any CAD software. Ai03 made a way better one: https://kbplate.ai03.me/
Post by: looted on Thu, 17 September 2020, 16:12:19
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Post by: 4sStylZ on Fri, 18 September 2020, 02:36:36
Don't use swill's plate gen. It produces CRAZY fractional dimensions (like thousandths or millionths of a mm). It's a nightmare to import those files and use them for a base for a case in any CAD software. Ai03 made a way better one: https://kbplate.ai03.me/
That's interesting. I never get any problem when I import them into Fusion 360. I did notice that some dimensions were a little bit « imprecize » but more something like 19mm,03 than what you described. :)
Post by: katotaka on Sat, 19 September 2020, 14:39:38
Post by: DoubtsBox on Fri, 06 November 2020, 17:29:48
It's actually a lot easier than that.
You go to Keyboard-layout-editor.com (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/) and design a layout
Then you head over to Swill's KB builder (http://builder.swillkb.com/), it will generate CAD files based on that.
From this point it gets a LOT more difficult.
Head over to the Kalerator (https://kalerator.clueboard.co/) to help automate the pcb files you need. It doesn't do everything but it helps. This means learning how to do up pcb files. The alternative is to just hand wire it. I recommend at least understanding hand wiring as it will help you understand what you will be doing in electronics CAD. there's plenty of tutorials for hand wiring, less for the electronics CAD.
From there you need to send the PCB cad files out for manufacturing (or hand wire later) and send the case CAD files for cutting or use those to generate STL files you can 3d print. This means learning cad.
Lastly you need to go over to qmk.fm (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/) and do up your firmware. This means reading a lot of documentation, which you may want to read before you start your PCB since it can only run on certain processors and use certain LEDs.
It's still a whole lot of work and learning before you get everything finished then find you made a mistake or decide to change it. it's not a 3 hour project that's for certain.
Kalerator doesn't work. It just gives me an internal server error. Any other options?
You need to save the layout in the top right and then use the link provided below. It'll have a notice that says something along the lines of "access the build you just saved with this link" highlighted in green and that's the link you need to put into kalerator.