Also of interesting note is that I've also noticed some fellow CRT users here. Can't afford a good IPS or BOE Hydis panel for my desktop, so I get by with an old Dell P1110 I found at a thrift store for $6, which works great...unless it decides to start losing focus inexplicably, at which point I have to turn it off for a few minutes before turning it back on and hoping that it won't do that again.
Also of interesting note is that I've also noticed some fellow CRT users here. Can't afford a good IPS or BOE Hydis panel for my desktop, so I get by with an old Dell P1110 I found at a thrift store for $6,
which works great...unless it decides to start losing focus inexplicably, at which point I have to turn it off for a few minutes before turning it back on and hoping that it won't do that again.
In short, I think I'll find a lot to like here.
Sounds like some solder joint could use a refresh (or maybe a transistor has become intermittent). You may want to consult a forum more dedicated to monitor repair, they might have more of a clue where exactly to look.
So long as it's financial, and not a political choice to continue CRT usage, Ill allow it.
DOES that work? If so, it hints at a heat issue. it is possible the shadow mask warps at higher temps and throws everything out of focus. That is seriously a total shot in the dark though. Does that monitor even have SM or is is an aperture grille. Either way, that's my guess.
Ahh, the honeymoon. Mine lasted all of 2 posts. We'll see if we can't get you trolled into non-existence in your own thread, mmm k?
Im kidding, of course. Welcome.
As for trolling, I think I've seen plenty of that here just lurking about, or so the other users say about the so-called trolls, who coincidentally just happen to have this preference for old PC hardware...
I was thinking capacitors, but mostly along the same lines. I haven't bothered to check inside yet without finding a guide for this thing; don't want to find out where the high voltage bits are the hard way.
I'm not strictly anti-LCD or anything. Not having to fiddle with geometry or convergence is nice, and then there's all that space saved.
But the lack of native resolutions, high refresh rates, image quality, viewing angles AND low prices of good CRTs are hard to beat for me at the moment. Right now, I can get high refresh rates with TN and image quality with VA and IPS, but either way, I start having to deal with native resolutions and have to spend a LOT of money in the process (especially with VA or IPS).
Shadow mask? In an FD Trinitron aperture grille monitor? I don't think so
Kidding on the "honeymoon" bit, or on the earlier parts of your post? These Internet sarcasm meters can be quite wonky.
As for trolling, I think I've seen plenty of that here just lurking about, or so the other users say about the so-called trolls, who coincidentally just happen to have this preference for old PC hardware...
So long as it's financial, and not a political choice to continue CRT usage, Ill allow it.
As for trolling, I think I've seen plenty of that here just lurking about, or so the other users say about the so-called trolls, who coincidentally just happen to have this preference for old PC hardware...
Liking old hardware is one thing. Responding to a thread asking about keyboard media controls with the post "If you want media buttons, get a tape player." is trollin'. Not that it matters but you mustn't think I'm biased against old computers.
Anyways, welcome.
There's nothing bad about preferring CRT's. Performance-wise, a good CRT is a million times better than any LCD.
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Not a million, nay, not even a BILLION. We are talking a Trollion times better.
Ah, that's the resident Irish troll. He hates vintage equipment and discards it all as useless (in which he is hypocritical since he uses old IBM keyboards). So it really doesn't make sense; try not to think too hard over it.
Actually, I probably have more vintage stuff than you do. I bet I even do more interesting things than it than you do. Try harder.
No ripster and no webwit... the troll distraction mechanism is breaking down, and there's nothing left to keep them in check!
But you're still the resident Irish troll (aka me and my co-workers' source of entertainment when we're bored at work).
But you're still the resident Irish troll (aka me and my co-workers' source of entertainment when we're bored at work).
But you're still the resident Irish troll (aka me and my co-workers' source of entertainment when we're bored at work).
You have clearly no idea what a troll is if you think I am a troll.
And children, vintage != ancient ****. Please do not abuse the term to describe useless Gateways or IBM PC300s that no one cares about.
(you're so enveloped in a bias towards most IBM products that it doesn't even matter).
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/3483/Dell_p1110.html
It was a joke, use whatever you want, just be realistic about what you are using.
That being said, and forgive me if im off-base, you sound like a guy who has heard other people talk about LCDs, but never actually owned one:
Native res - do people actually switch resolutions? I can see it with gaming, but most gamers buy hardware that can push their native res in-game.
High Refresh rates - You realize we aren't talking apple to apples with CRT refresh rates. There is a thread somewhere on here where that just came up:
http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=205815&postcount=426
Oh, but maybe you mean RESPONSE TIME? that is a different story, but it is somewhat over exaggerated by the internet.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&cs=cadhs1&l=en&sku=320-9271
8ms g-2-g, not INSANELY awesome, but workable, and IPS, for ~200 bucks CAD. If that is out of your price range, then Im sorry to hear that. PVA panels peform slightly better WRT speed, but they are getting to be a rare find (all for the best, as I prefer IPS - but I do have a PVA panel). What colour-critical work do you do?
My biggest problem with what you are saying is it sounds like you are regurgitating facts from the internet, and havent actually TRIED any of these products out. That's the problem with the internet and it's boundless info, it keeps people from trying things with their own open mind.
I honestly mean no offense, but this syndrome is big in the digital photography world, we call it "pixel peeping". This can have a placebo effect on some people, and it all ends badly in a life of dissatisfaction :mmph:
If you are broke though, by all means, keep rocking the $6 CRTs, that price is hard to beat.
This may come in handy. Thanks.
You misunderstand me, for the most part.
Native resolution isn't that big of an issue for me, assuming that the monitor doesn't fail hard at scaling properly (like this one crappy, cheap LCD I've been gifted) and the graphics card drivers do their job properly. However, that's two big "if"s. Also, as for buying hardware that runs games well at native resolution, that'll probably be even more expensive than a good monitor-especially since I'm insistent on a minimum, consistent 60 FPS. (Maybe 50 or 40 FPS.) Turning down the resolution does wonders for framerates most of the time.
No, I don't mean response time (I don't seem to perceive that nearly as much), but refresh rate. I know LCDs don't fade between refreshes like CRT phosphors do, but higher refresh rates still result in noticeably smoother motion, even over 60 FPS. That's what I would like to have-
I don't do anything color-critical...yet. But I would like to see things as their designers intended, and also not end up seeing stark differences in color if I print something. If I were to do it, it would be more of a "because I can" thing.
There's nothing really wrong with LCDs or anything, but the ones I do have in this house are all cheap, crappy TN panels that don't even have DVI or HDMI ports, and I currently don't have the money to buy a decent LCD with.
*reads other posts*
...Typical.
Another good thing about CRT's is viewing angle. I know I've seen some LCD's where the image looks off when looked at from the wrong angle.
Wow, that was like having a discussion with two retarded four year olds. Back to the ignore list with ye!(http://geekhack.org/picture.php?albumid=9&pictureid=446)
It's not really news, TN panels don't have good viewing angles. However, most people look at their monitors directly so it isn't a problem.
NP.
I cant argue with this. I don't game, or give two ****s about gaming, but I would have to agree that, as in most things, the gold standard for judging an LCD's gaming capability is by comparing it to a CRT; s'gotta say something. Stick with your $6 CRTs for now.
no DVI = holy ****ing old and ****ty.
Actually I sometimes look at LCDs tilted back; this causes lots of "darkness". Side viewing angles are okay on all my LCDs.
As far as I am aware, most standard computers don't come with integrated DVI ports to the mobo. At our school, all the new HP computers (& smartboards) are still running on VGA.
Anyone who can easily use LCDs is definitely not a gamer. The problem being the graphics get so smudgy and horrible. But it also depends whether or not that bothers the individual: most people could probably suck it up & ignore it, or don't even notice.
But I mostly care for the older games. The new games are extremely uninspired.
Actually I sometimes look at LCDs tilted back; this causes lots of "darkness". Side viewing angles are okay on all my LCDs.
As far as I am aware, most standard computers don't come with integrated DVI ports to the mobo. At our school, all the new HP computers (& smartboards) are still running on VGA.
Anyone who can easily use LCDs is definitely not a gamer. The problem being the graphics get so smudgy and horrible. But it also depends whether or not that bothers the individual: most people could probably suck it up & ignore it, or don't even notice.
But I mostly care for the older games. The new games are extremely uninspired.
I prefer CRT's but that doesn't mean that you all have to. CRT's and LCD's both have different advantages. So like Instantkamera said, just take your pick.
Honestly a tonne of people game fine with TN panels. I defer to them
Define what you mean by "gamer" then. If you mean somebody who plays games, you're wrong. If you mean somebody who plays many games, you're wrong. If you mean somebody who plays games competitively, you're wrong. If you mean somebody who plays to win, you're wrong again. If by gamer you mean a person that hasn't played a new game since 1995, then you could be correct.
But you're still wrong.
Define what you mean by "gamer" then. If you mean somebody who plays games, you're wrong. If you mean somebody who plays many games, you're wrong. If you mean somebody who plays games competitively, you're wrong. If you mean somebody who plays to win, you're wrong again. If by gamer you mean a person that hasn't played a new game since 1995, then you could be correct.
But you're still wrong.
See? I deferred, then an actual gamer chimed in, and it is clear (and has been abundantly so since I joined GH) you are wrong (again).
You also don't pay attention to fine detail as I do, so things like resolution artifacts really bother me.
I've said many times, I beta tested starcraft 2. That certainly isn't 1995. Although the system requirements are surprisingly lower than I first suspected.
That stupid new settlers game by Ubisoft demanded more (although it's really nothing like the original DOS game -- and the DOS version wasn't all that great).
Actual gamer? Ha! I've played more games than anyone else on Geekhack combined.
You're full of ****, please shut up.
OK, so let me get this straight: you troll on and on about old games, old software and old hardware and when somebody calls you out, you claim that you use new games, new software and new hardware.
You're lying about one of them.
And that makes anyone else on Geekhack less of a gamer how?
I don't know, he doesn't have a scrollpoint pro, an L40 trackpoint, a 1986 model M, an original 5150, a C64, or even any of the cool games I have (I guess I could be considered as a game collector since I have so many).
Except your black M13 which happens to have the worst labels ever made for a keyboard.
(you're so enveloped in a bias towards most IBM products that it doesn't even matter).
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