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Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 13:31:37: On my Windows 7 machine, in Opera, I can't seem to find a way to get the Cleartype disabled. I've found text to be hard to read in Cleartype and would like to get rid of it in Opera. Anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks!
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: whininggit on Fri, 23 July 2010, 13:55:08: Does Opera just obey the Windows settings (sorry, don't have it installed at the moment)? If so, click on Start, type Adjust ClearType (or go into Control Panel and find it under Display) and turn off ClearType.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 14:47:42: I would do that but I don't know how to change the window fonts in Windows 7 with the "Aero" theme. Got any ideas?
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 23 July 2010, 15:54:05: Get an LCD monitor.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 17:42:12: The 21" CRT I got is a million times better than any LCD. When your LCD starts running 1600x1200 at 100Hz then you can tell me to buy one.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: gr1m on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:00:08: http://www.pctipsbox.com/disable-cleartype-font-smoothing/
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There is no other feature that I have heard so much positive and negative feedback about than ClearType screen font smoothing. Some users think this feature is great while other complain that it makes the text blurry and hard to read. If you are one of those that do not like ClearType then this tweak is for you.
1. Open Registry Editor.
2. Navigate through HKEY_CURRENT_USER, Control Panel and Desktop.
3. Set FontSmoothingType to 1.
4. Set FontSmoothing to 1.
5. Reboot.

Google is your friend.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:02:32: Quote from: microsoft windows;205711
The 21" CRT I got is a million times better than any LCD. When your LCD starts running 1600x1200 at 100Hz then you can tell me to buy one.

My LCD runs at 1600x1200, and it doesn't need to run at 100Hz. Do I win a cookie?
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:07:24: Your LCD can't scale resolutions nearly as good as my CRT, its color quality and refresh rates are inferior as well. Once you use a good monitor, it's hard to go back.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:08:54: Why would I need it to scale resolutions? I'm only ever going to run a monitor at its highest resolution.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:09:16: Quote from: gr1m;205770
http://www.pctipsbox.com/disable-cleartype-font-smoothing/

Google is your friend.

Oh I searched Google for a long time before asking here. I was just wondering how to disable Cleartype just in Opera, or change the Windows fonts in the Aero scheme to something like MS Sans Serif that looks good without Cleartype.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:10:02: Quote from: ch_123;205781
Why would I need it to scale resolutions? I'm only ever going to run a monitor at its highest resolution.

You don't run anything in full screen?
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:25:13: I do...

And invariably they're all running at 1600x1200 too...
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Fri, 23 July 2010, 19:26:16: What about video?

I can also change the resolution on my monitor down and use it from the sofa across the room with my extra-long stretchy cable on my M5-2.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: instantkamera on Fri, 23 July 2010, 21:08:18: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFloXOuLgA
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: whininggit on Sat, 24 July 2010, 04:13:53: If you use a decent LCD monitor, the upscaling "problem" is not really an issue. Some resolutions fit perfectly (i.e. 800x600 onto a 1920x1200 panel). Others are so low to begin with that the interpolation doesn't negatively affect the quality (i.e. 640x480).

As for disabling ClearType, I explained in my first reply how to disable it.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 24 July 2010, 07:18:27: LCD's not running in their native resolution have terrible image quality. I hate the soft pixels.

And I'm not talking about crappy CRT's here. I'm talking about one of the best ones ever made versus an LCD.

I have plenty of experience with using LCD's and know why they get blurry at some resolutions. I've got an LCD that was made before they did that (It looks AWFUL when it ain't in its native resolution or 640x480).

I already knew how to disable Cleartype in Windows. I was just wondering how to do it in the Opera browser and I thought I might get some good advice here (Of course I should've known better).
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 24 July 2010, 07:22:40: Quote from: microsoft windows;205797
What about video?

I can also change the resolution on my monitor down and use it from the sofa across the room with my extra-long stretchy cable on my M5-2.

I have this amazing contrabulation called a "Television". Crazy I know...

Watching video on a 20" screen seems almost tasteless in this day and age.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 24 July 2010, 07:24:50: Yeah but your TV cost more than $5.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 24 July 2010, 07:26:47: I bet I earn more than $5.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: whininggit on Sat, 24 July 2010, 07:27:46: Quote from: microsoft windows;205907
I thought I might get some good advice here (Of course I should've known better).

I won't waste any more of my time on you then.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 24 July 2010, 07:28:00: But why bother buying a huge screen TV when my current TV works perfectly fine? It's just wasteful.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 26 July 2010, 07:02:58: Scaling, done at it's best, should happen at the video card on a PC. If you're letting the monitor scale video, you're doing it wrong.

Quote from: ch_123
I bet I earn more than $5.

This. I make enough money; I can buy what I want. I just buy the top of the line so I don't feel like I need to upgrade very often.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 07:04:19: Nonsense, we should all listen to some guy who demands that we respect his old computers, but at the same time insult anyone who wants to spend money on theirs...
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: cmr on Mon, 26 July 2010, 08:22:12: choose windows, choose opera, feel tortured... act surprised??

:rolleyes:
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: nanu on Mon, 26 July 2010, 09:15:47: you should check out GDI++ as a cleartype replacement
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 26 July 2010, 09:16:28: Quote from: cmr;206542
choose windows, choose opera, feel tortured... act surprised??

:rolleyes:

Hey, Opera is a great browser!
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: Pylon on Mon, 26 July 2010, 12:09:36: Just tune your Cleartype.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/tune.aspx

Under 7 though I think it's under the Control Panel.
Title: How do you disable Cleartype in Opera?
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 27 July 2010, 10:04:12: Another thing with LCDs is that the image is often a little bit grainy, like the grain in a optochemical still photograph. I can imagine that this would get worse with age, also.

Quote from: nanu;206568
you should check out GDI++ as a cleartype replacement
GDI++ supposedly renders fonts as in MacOS. I hated the blurry text in MacOS. I want proper hinting on a computer screen!

Quote from: ch_123;206570
Hey, Opera is a great browser!
Agreed.