Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:35:20
(https://i.imgur.com/L5nMMeJ.jpg)
Compact layout. Max power.
The winkeyless compact 1800 layout jam-packs the functionality of a full-sized keyboard in a truly versatile and efficient form factor.
A productivity instrument first and foremost that is perfect for the workspace. Dedicated areas for number input, navigation, and typing are conveniently arranged with a separation between them for greater usability.
(https://i.imgur.com/aTgtQUf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/r0ilooL.jpg)
Clean and fluid lines for a seamless construction.
Sar retains the original streamlined aesthetic developed with Verne and refines it in every possible aspect with an uncompromised design that is purely driven by purpose.
Careful consideration has been made from the tiniest details, like the status lights, to the largest ones like the precisely machined back curves or the breath-taking side profile.
The result is an absolute unit meant to be the centrepiece of your desk.
(https://i.imgur.com/jOyCIxQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GKeRLWt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EY61oHg.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/39btzjc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4Cgel3M.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/EbMPDbQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DZaFgz0.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6D8T1Jb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rwfI8Kf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/4MiqJAV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XldJ9EL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/3yzPTMd.jpg)
Elevating the concept of thick to a whole new level.
Sar features a 4.75mm thick plate utilizing a fully-isolated gasket mount comprising of a set of vibration-dampening urethane strips.
The intricate switch plate is available in either polycarbonate or brass, resulting in two radically different typing experiences. So lit.
(https://i.imgur.com/1qYggso.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rbxWGuk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4JvboWw.jpg)
Take a look at what's under the hood.
For Sar, wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech) has developed the remarkably uncluttered, yet exceptionally capable WT90-A circuit board. The hot-swappable sockets allow for a dramatically fast, hassle-free assembly; three surface mounted RGB LEDs display layer information and a breakout board provides USB-C connectivity that is low and centred at the rear of the chassis.
(https://i.imgur.com/zAOzWeH.jpg)
The circuit board is QMK compatible and can effortlessly be programmed using VIA (https://caniusevia.com), resulting in a more intuitive, useful, and truly exceptional user experience.
(https://i.imgur.com/hufFeMD.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/sJFkKHh.jpg)
Finishes
MOMENTUM RED - PWNER SOUL BLACK - LIGHTNING SILVER - SAMURAI BLUE
The beadblasted, then anodized aluminium enclosures are offered four carefully picked colour combos, all of them with an internal black brass weight and the plate of your choice.
(https://i.imgur.com/ApXMjfw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TN8Kqy2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6vxuPOm.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/TK3W7ue.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/8IlfAQR.jpg)
Compact layout. Max power.
The winkeyless compact 1800 layout jam-packs the functionality of a full-sized keyboard in a truly versatile and efficient form factor.
A productivity instrument first and foremost that is perfect for the workspace. Dedicated areas for number input, navigation, and typing are conveniently arranged with a separation between them for greater usability.
(https://i.imgur.com/aTgtQUf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/r0ilooL.jpg)
Clean and fluid lines for a seamless construction.
Sar retains the original streamlined aesthetic developed with Verne and refines it in every possible aspect with an uncompromised design that is purely driven by purpose.
Careful consideration has been made from the tiniest details, like the status lights, to the largest ones like the precisely machined back curves or the breath-taking side profile.
The result is an absolute unit meant to be the centrepiece of your desk.
(https://i.imgur.com/jOyCIxQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GKeRLWt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EY61oHg.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/39btzjc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4Cgel3M.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/EbMPDbQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DZaFgz0.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6D8T1Jb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rwfI8Kf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/4MiqJAV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XldJ9EL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/3yzPTMd.jpg)
Elevating the concept of thick to a whole new level.
Sar features a 4.75mm thick plate utilizing a fully-isolated gasket mount comprising of a set of vibration-dampening urethane strips.
The intricate switch plate is available in either polycarbonate or brass, resulting in two radically different typing experiences. So lit.
(https://i.imgur.com/1qYggso.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rbxWGuk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4JvboWw.jpg)
Take a look at what's under the hood.
For Sar, wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech) has developed the remarkably uncluttered, yet exceptionally capable WT90-A circuit board. The hot-swappable sockets allow for a dramatically fast, hassle-free assembly; three surface mounted RGB LEDs display layer information and a breakout board provides USB-C connectivity that is low and centred at the rear of the chassis.
(https://i.imgur.com/zAOzWeH.jpg)
The circuit board is QMK compatible and can effortlessly be programmed using VIA (https://caniusevia.com), resulting in a more intuitive, useful, and truly exceptional user experience.
(https://i.imgur.com/hufFeMD.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/sJFkKHh.jpg)
Finishes
MOMENTUM RED - PWNER SOUL BLACK - LIGHTNING SILVER - SAMURAI BLUE
The beadblasted, then anodized aluminium enclosures are offered four carefully picked colour combos, all of them with an internal black brass weight and the plate of your choice.
(https://i.imgur.com/ApXMjfw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TN8Kqy2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6vxuPOm.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/TK3W7ue.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/8IlfAQR.jpg)
Technical Specs
Weight and dimensions
- Estimated enclosure weight (frozen polycarbonate/monolith brass): 2.44 kg / 3.33 kg (5.38 lbs / 7.34 lbs)
- Front height: 1.97 cm (0.77 inch)
- Width: 38.24 cm (15.05 inch)
- Depth: 14.31 cm (5.63 inch)
General
- 8.0° slope
- Isolated gasket mounted 4.75mm switch plate in either polycarbonate or brass
- 4 finish options: Momentum Red, Pwner Soul Black, Lightning Silver, Samurai Blue
- USB-C interface
- WT90-A SAR designed by wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech). Hot-swappable, QMK compatible PCB, and fully programmable with VIA configurator (https://caniusevia.com).
- Made by Salvun.
What's in the box
- 1 × Sar top enclosure - Bead blasted anodized aluminium
- 1 × Sar frozen/monolith plate - (4.75mm polycarbonate or bead blasted black PVD coated brass)
- 1 × Sar internal weight - Bead blasted black PVD coated brass
- 1 × Sar base enclosure - Bead blasted anodized aluminium
- 1 × wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech) WT90-A (hot-swap)
- 1 × wilba.tech (https://wilba.tech) WT-USB-C
- 1 × 4-CORE JST cable
- 4 × T6 M2×4 Fixtures (Daughterboard PCB)
- 14 × T6 M2×3 Fixtures (Hot-swap PCB)
- 14 × T6 M2×3 CSK Fixtures (Hot-swap PCB)
- 14 × M2×3.5 Spacers (Hot-swap PCB)
- 8 × T10 M3×12 Fixtures (Case)
- 4 × T10 M3×5 CSK Fixtures (Weight)
- 3 × LED Pipes
- 4 × SKUF bumpons
- 1 × set of Sar gaskets
Pre-order information
- Unit Quantity: Open pre-order. Unlimited.
- Price: To be announced.
- Vendors: To be announced.
- Date: To be announced.
- Kindly note that the images are of 3D renders and are for illustration purposes only. The final colors may differ slightly.
- Keycaps, switches, and stabilizers are shown for demonstrative purposes only and are not included with Sar.
- Kindly note that Sar will be offered as a pre-order with unlimited orders. There can be delays and set backs.
- For faster updates and push notifications regarding this project, please join the Discord server (http://discord.zambumon.com)
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:35:41
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:35:47
Q: Is the layout fixed?
A: Yes. ANSI, stepped caps lock, 1.50, 1.50, 7U, 1.50, 1.50, and split plus.
Q: Will thin plates be available?
A: Not for the pre-order. Thin plate files will be published.
Q: Why no solderable PCB?
A: Less parts to deal with.
Q: How heavy is the brass plate?
A: Estimated 1kg
Q: Will there be a solderable pcb released later?
A: No.
Q: Extra top/base pieces?
A: Very unlikely.
Q: Why thick plate?
A: Because I wanted.
Q: When will vendors/price/pre-order date be announced?
A: When the project is ready, prototypes are finished and thouroughly tested, vendors are contacted, and pricing is finalized. Please be patient.
Q: OK, but can you give me an ETA on when a project will be released?
A: Check https://zambumon.com/status. If it's not there, no ETA.
Q: Prototypes? Typing test?
A: Yes. Please be patient.
Q: Can you add more color options to Sar?
A: No.
Q: Will you color match this keyboard to [this keyset]?
A: No.
Q: Will you color match this keyboard to another keyboard?
A: No.
Q: Can I buy your protos?
A: Absolutely No.
Q: How is the brass plate going to be coated?
A: Ideally, beadblasted then PVD coated in black. Same for the weight.
Q: What is the [keycap set] on this render of Sar ?
A: GMK Jamón, GMK Dolch with cyan accents and Hangul sublegends, GMK Striker, SAV-inspired dyesub set with blue Cyrillic sublegends.
Q: Will foam be available?
A: No.
Q: What are the gaskets made out of?
A: Urethane.
Post by: of_sam on Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:36:18
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Post by: kuro0renji on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:01:48
Post by: Sweihan on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:07:51
Post by: Henrythewound on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:10:31
Post by: TheMilkmen on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:11:48
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:15:30
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Post by: lbassett21 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:22:59
Post by: Cahuib23 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:25:39
Post by: LenniO on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:38:01
any chance for that to get added?
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Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:38:05
Either way, I'm super hyped for this!
Post by: sirieous on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:41:31
Post by: Key_Capt on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:41:54
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:42:30
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:44:21
Post by: zoo on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:47:59
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:52:48
looks soo good. if only there was ISO support :(
any chance for that to get added?
Gesendet von meinem ANE-LX1 mit Tapatalk
Not for the group buy. Switch plate is fixed, PCB is hot-swap.
will this keyset have minivan compatibility?
No. This isn't even a keyset.
Post by: Diggidy on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:01:43
I'm in love.
Post by: mi9ol on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:02:14
Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk
Post by: akimbra on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:07:41
- Hotswap PCB
- 4.75mm plate with fixed ansi layout
- Unlimited quantity and made by Salvun that's already burdened with other keyboards
- Limited variety
I hope that production has already begun for this to be delivered by 2022 and the cost to be low enough to warrant all of the previously stated choices.
Would be nice to state the type of aluminum used though if it's 6063 or the cheaper/worse 6061.
Looking forward to seeing how this run will evolve as the case design looks good.
Post by: Rafa_n on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:12:14
Post by: CGreat on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:16:58
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:17:46
I’m hoping my Jules board ships soon, hopefully I can add this to it. I’d also love to have a board made by Salvun (or somebody that works with him if the GB is unlimited).
Something that’s not in your FAQ, but which I can expect will also be answered “no”, though I still want it:
Any chance of a southpaw variant?
Post by: paperassgasket on Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:42:19
Yes please!
I’m hoping my Jules board ships soon, hopefully I can add this to it. I’d also love to have a board made by Salvun (or somebody that works with him if the GB is unlimited).
Something that’s not in your FAQ, but which I can expect will also be answered “no”, though I still want it:
Any chance of a southpaw variant?
No.
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:02:47
Any chance of a southpaw variant?
No. That would require some heavy changes and a different PCB.
Post by: KayVS on Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:27:26
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:49:31
Post by: paperassgasket on Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:12:37
Love the typing angle, love the thick plate (don't care for brass though) and love the thick feet and gasket mount.
It seems pretty apparent that this board is targeted at professionals in an office setting (even if it's now a home office, thanks to COVID) that might be getting into mechanical keyboards for the first time, or looking to improve upon what they have had previously.
10/10 would bring this to work.
Post by: Baionlenja on Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:33:16
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:34:50
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:44:51
It seems pretty apparent that this board is targeted atprofessionals in an office settingSalvun
FTFY
Post by: mgsickler on Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:50:29
Post by: Salvun on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:00:33
Post by: Flexmaster on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:08:37
Post by: mrnekokun on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:23:04
looks soo good. if only there was ISO support :(
any chance for that to get added?
Gesendet von meinem ANE-LX1 mit Tapatalk
Not for the group buy. Switch plate is fixed, PCB is hot-swap.
Does this mean theres a possibility we could get the option to buy these seperately in the future?
Post by: harlekein on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:33:37
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:37:43
Will you color match this to Nautilus Nightmares?
You didn't even read the FAQ.
Post by: udller on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:41:35
only thing i could ask for is renders with handbag caps :)
Post by: martensson on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:43:33
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:54:20
Post by: mattv on Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:10:31
Post by: Wilba on Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:28:31
Let's go!
Post by: soran on Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:30:59
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:37:23
The first Sar I see tonight;
I wish I may, I wish I might,
Have the wish I wish tonight.
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:03:21
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:04:07
SAR SO LIT.
Let's go!
I love you for this pcb color Wilba
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:11:33
SAR SO LIT.
Let's go!
I love you for this pcb color Wilba
Wilba isn't a color picker.
Post by: niakulah on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:25:25
Lovely design and keyboard, but the fixed layout (WKL) forces me to pass. A bit sad but I am sure it will sell great either way! :DSame. Can't live without my Winkey shortcuts.
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:43:00
Post by: gasp on Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:43:15
Post by: Kajoler on Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:06:07
Post by: low_key_keyboards on Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:24:45
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:33:03
Post by: soloplayer on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:33:45
otherwise it would be insta buy for me
GL w GB
Post by: jack47 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:49:33
Post by: Coby on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:53:17
Post by: sntXrrr on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:54:52
Personally I prefer split numpad enter b/c I'm a lefty gamer, other layout choices match my personal tastes but a solderable board would've made a lot more people happy I think.
Any chance of a nice kb case for this format?
Post by: nettik on Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:55:17
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 02 November 2020, 20:14:24
I thought so, sorry, but I had to ask.Any chance of a southpaw variant?
No. That would require some heavy changes and a different PCB.
I’m still interested, good luck with the GB. From the comments it looks like you spotted a gap in the market, everybody’s collection needs a great full-size.
Post by: o3okevin on Mon, 02 November 2020, 22:02:41
Post by: macclack on Mon, 02 November 2020, 22:11:26
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Mon, 02 November 2020, 22:34:13
Post by: roguesystem087 on Mon, 02 November 2020, 22:50:01
I know this is a long shot, but it would be cool if ilumkb can be the vendor for asia side
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Mon, 02 November 2020, 22:55:14
Post by: VipermanGT2 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 00:50:20
Post by: bball2 on Tue, 03 November 2020, 01:05:52
Post by: Rooke-Design on Tue, 03 November 2020, 01:28:26
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:12:46
Post by: utdconsq on Tue, 03 November 2020, 02:30:31
Post by: Araset on Tue, 03 November 2020, 04:16:55
Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 03 November 2020, 06:07:27
Much respect to Zambu going unlimited! Unlike others out there that.......
Don't be a ****.
This is because the plan is to work with multiple vendors and distribute the load of the orders. Please, be understandable when vendors limit the orders.
Post by: Buttsecks on Tue, 03 November 2020, 07:31:44
Post by: finalarcadia on Tue, 03 November 2020, 11:15:28
I love your work, man, but without an option for wk layout this goes from my endgame to won't buy. You say you want it to be great for productivity; well, that particular key + ctrl + alt is so important to a lot of us. I know you're undoubtedly all the way at the end of prototypes and design, but if there's even the slightest chance for a re-design on pcb + plate, you'd make a fan very happy. If not, I'll just be sad about the almost that sar represents for me.The solution to your woes is Ctrl goes to where caps lock is. Bottom is Alt -> Win -> Space. This goes for any keyboard
Post by: utdconsq on Tue, 03 November 2020, 16:20:51
The solution to your woes is Ctrl goes to where caps lock is. Bottom is Alt -> Win -> Space. This goes for any keyboardGoing to be hard to unlearn muscle memory, but I might remap current daily driver as you suggest and see how I go. Thanks for the tip, man.
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 03 November 2020, 16:43:37
I like having Ctrl where Caps is for games. It a lot easier to reach than my pinky having to stretch.The solution to your woes is Ctrl goes to where caps lock is. Bottom is Alt -> Win -> Space. This goes for any keyboardGoing to be hard to unlearn muscle memory, but I might remap current daily driver as you suggest and see how I go. Thanks for the tip, man.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 03 November 2020, 16:45:37
I like having Ctrl where Caps is for games. It a lot easier to reach than my pinky having to stretch.The solution to your woes is Ctrl goes to where caps lock is. Bottom is Alt -> Win -> Space. This goes for any keyboardGoing to be hard to unlearn muscle memory, but I might remap current daily driver as you suggest and see how I go. Thanks for the tip, man.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Post by: MoarCoffeePlzzz on Tue, 03 November 2020, 18:23:10
Post by: uzitaco on Tue, 03 November 2020, 20:56:36
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Post by: LONGZILLA on Tue, 03 November 2020, 23:34:36
[attach=1]
I noticed most base sets don’t include a ‘=‘ key like in the numpad renders. What key do folks plan to put?
Post by: GSPADE on Tue, 03 November 2020, 23:53:30
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 03 November 2020, 23:59:38
Great layout.Maybe a delete key could do
(Attachment Link)
I noticed most base sets don’t include a ‘=‘ key like in the numpad renders. What key do folks plan to put?
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 November 2020, 09:49:36
Great layout.
(Attachment Link)
I noticed most base sets don’t include a ‘=‘ key like in the numpad renders. What key do folks plan to put?
asterisk
Post by: Zambumon on Wed, 04 November 2020, 10:08:02
Really respect the unlimited gb, I assume more units will mean a lower price but with the features this has I bet it'll still be a buck or two. Is the plate two parts? I noticed screws on the top side of the plate and was wondering if it was a two part plate? Or is it just a single thick plate with cut outs where the switch latches would be one a 1.5mm plate. Finally, I'm wondering if the led indicators will be addressable? I'd like to program one of them to flash at every keypress.
The plate is one part. The fixtures are used to secure the PCB when there are no switches attached to it.
Yes, they are addressable.
sadge 1u zero
This is literally the one thing that any 1800 keyboard has so the arrows can fit between the alphas and numpad.
It wouldn't be a dealbreaker normally but that numpad layout is really upsetting.
Almost all (if not all) GMK keysets have support for split R2 1U minus and R3 1U plus. If you have an OG 1800, you'll be able to use their keycaps on this board, and that's precisely what I wanted. It would be upsetting if you had 1800 keycaps and couldn't use them with this board.
(https://i.imgur.com/XUml4K1.jpg)
Post by: gilbert on Wed, 04 November 2020, 11:10:17
Post by: Zambumon on Wed, 04 November 2020, 11:53:06
No iso avail?
No.
Q: Is the layout fixed?
A: Yes. ANSI, stepped caps lock, 1.50, 1.50, 7U, 1.50, 1.50, and split plus.
Post by: Crack85 on Wed, 04 November 2020, 12:32:37
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Post by: iindigo on Wed, 04 November 2020, 12:52:59
Can anybody with experience with thick poly plates provide insight into the resulting flex and sound profile? Intuitively I'd expect it to be something like a more muted standard thickness alu plate but I have no idea what to expect.
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 04 November 2020, 13:34:03
Post by: meowscanttype on Wed, 04 November 2020, 13:58:55
Post by: Bl4ck on Wed, 04 November 2020, 14:24:36
Post by: iaman on Wed, 04 November 2020, 15:33:25
Post by: Zambumon on Wed, 04 November 2020, 15:58:38
Might be a weird question, but what is the color of the pcb? Is it the light blue shown?
Yes, but kindly note that the images are of 3D renders and are for illustration purposes only. The final colors may differ slightly.
Post by: Bl4ck on Wed, 04 November 2020, 16:10:47
Might be a weird question, but what is the color of the pcb? Is it the light blue shown?
Yes, but kindly note that the images are of 3D renders and are for illustration purposes only. The final colors may differ slightly.
Yeh I understand that :)
Post by: uzitaco on Wed, 04 November 2020, 21:26:36
I'll be using this for work and when I work late it's nice to have a backlight.
Post by: SenseiJia on Wed, 04 November 2020, 22:33:21
Post by: noodleman on Wed, 04 November 2020, 23:37:11
This may be a dumb question but is there a way to add a backlight to the PCB?
I'll be using this for work and when I work late it's nice to have a backlight.
doubt it. the pcb doesn't look to have per key lighting and there's no way to have underglow in this case.
Post by: niakulah on Thu, 05 November 2020, 03:16:47
Really respect the unlimited gb, I assume more units will mean a lower price but with the features this has I bet it'll still be a buck or two. Is the plate two parts? I noticed screws on the top side of the plate and was wondering if it was a two part plate? Or is it just a single thick plate with cut outs where the switch latches would be one a 1.5mm plate. Finally, I'm wondering if the led indicators will be addressable? I'd like to program one of them to flash at every keypress.
The plate is one part. The fixtures are used to secure the PCB when there are no switches attached to it.
Yes, they are addressable.
Now you have me curious. I too assumed it was 2 parts.
How then do the switches stay in place? They can't clip into the plate, and they aren't soldered onto the PCB.
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 05 November 2020, 03:49:10
Really respect the unlimited gb, I assume more units will mean a lower price but with the features this has I bet it'll still be a buck or two. Is the plate two parts? I noticed screws on the top side of the plate and was wondering if it was a two part plate? Or is it just a single thick plate with cut outs where the switch latches would be one a 1.5mm plate. Finally, I'm wondering if the led indicators will be addressable? I'd like to program one of them to flash at every keypress.
The plate is one part. The fixtures are used to secure the PCB when there are no switches attached to it.
Yes, they are addressable.
Now you have me curious. I too assumed it was 2 parts.
How then do the switches stay in place? They can't clip into the plate, and they aren't soldered onto the PCB.
They clip into the plate. The switch cutouts have a recess on the underside so the plate is 1.5mm thick where the switch clips into the plate.
There are M2 screws on either side of a threaded spacer to attach the PCB to the plate, the same method I used on Ramaworks U80-A, M65-B, KARA, Zambumon Jules, ION Zenith and wilba.tech Thermal. This ensures the PCB and plate remain parallel during installation of switches. The bonus benefit is the ability to change switches without disassembling the case.
Post by: niakulah on Thu, 05 November 2020, 04:27:41
Really respect the unlimited gb, I assume more units will mean a lower price but with the features this has I bet it'll still be a buck or two. Is the plate two parts? I noticed screws on the top side of the plate and was wondering if it was a two part plate? Or is it just a single thick plate with cut outs where the switch latches would be one a 1.5mm plate. Finally, I'm wondering if the led indicators will be addressable? I'd like to program one of them to flash at every keypress.
The plate is one part. The fixtures are used to secure the PCB when there are no switches attached to it.
Yes, they are addressable.
Now you have me curious. I too assumed it was 2 parts.
How then do the switches stay in place? They can't clip into the plate, and they aren't soldered onto the PCB.
They clip into the plate. The switch cutouts have a recess on the underside so the plate is 1.5mm thick where the switch clips into the plate.
There are M2 screws on either side of a threaded spacer to attach the PCB to the plate, the same method I used on Ramaworks U80-A, M65-B, KARA, Zambumon Jules, ION Zenith and wilba.tech Thermal. This ensures the PCB and plate remain parallel during installation of switches. The bonus benefit is the ability to change switches without disassembling the case.
Wow! Thanks for the taking the time to explain. Sounds complicated to make. Worth it though to get that thick plate AND hotswap.
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 05 November 2020, 04:29:08
Post by: danieljgrouse on Thu, 05 November 2020, 06:24:57
The bonus benefit is the ability to change switches without disassembling the case.
I have a bad experience doing that. I'd definitely recommend always supporting the sockets from bellow when inserting new switches, otherwise you might tear the socket off and it will take the pad with it. It's incredibly annoying to fix (I kinda wish Kailh had designed the sockets in a way that the PCB would physically support them rather then them being held on with just solder).
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Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 08 November 2020, 13:05:18
This looks great, one of the best executed full-size-ish boards I've seen. Depending on a couple factors there's a very good chance I'll grab one.
Can anybody with experience with thick poly plates provide insight into the resulting flex and sound profile? Intuitively I'd expect it to be something like a more muted standard thickness alu plate but I have no idea what to expect.
Not so long ago, Manofinterests uploaded a typing test of his Noxary 280s with a 5mm polycarbonate plate and this is how he described its feel:
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5mm polycarb, nice and stiff feeling, a full-bodied feeling and sound
Post by: iindigo on Sun, 08 November 2020, 13:44:50
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Post by: Zambumon on Sun, 08 November 2020, 20:45:07
Cyan PCB looking nice.
It looks even better in real life :D
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Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 09 November 2020, 13:06:21
I'm very tempted by this, even though I already bought into the Hex.6C, but WKL is not exactly ideal for someone working in a Windows shop. To satisfy my lack of knowledge here, do WKLs usually have a Winkey hot-combo, or is that functionality nixed entirely?
The WT90-A PCB that Sar uses is fully programmable and you can map the Windows key anywhere you want. A popular option is mapping the winkey to the right Alt or right Control.
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 09 November 2020, 13:58:30
Great layout.
(Attachment Link)
I noticed most base sets don’t include a ‘=‘ key like in the numpad renders. What key do folks plan to put?
You'll probably need an 1800 kit to fill the keys above with correctly profiled caps and that will include an = if it's not in the numberpad so you just have to buy a set with one. Personally I prefer having - where it is on a standard board (so it doesn't mess with muscle memory) so I have - = + keys with - - + caps going down that side. Doesn't look bad though I would prefer correct legends (tradition dictates this will never happen)
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ISO and split backspace would have made this very tempting - my wallet is thankful it isn't :thumb:
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 11 November 2020, 15:33:39
One thing with the Verne was I’d notice a tendency to tilt back if I hit “Esc” or a function key on occasion, I’m not sure if anyone else noticed this or if I’m a power-escaper but just out of curiosity was that issue addressed through purposeful/inherent design?
Post by: Samael82 on Thu, 12 November 2020, 07:59:11
Hope progress goes well and we soon have the chance to see/hear it!
I assume we Europeans will be able to buy from an EU ventor,right?
Sick of the "thiefs" in customs clearance asking for 130+ euros to process imports from the US...
Post by: Zambumon on Thu, 12 November 2020, 10:20:32
I assume we Europeans will be able to buy from an EU vendor, right?
Yes. After all, Sar is made by Salvun in Belgium.
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Post by: Domantas on Thu, 19 November 2020, 12:33:18
Really curious how the thick plate & gasket mount will play together? I know with a plate that thick flex is out of the picture, but I'm assuming it'll really help with sound. Which will probably be wildly different between the PC & brass plates. Awesome work Zamb, really looking forward to this hopefully being my first custom 1800!
I think zambumon wants to make really durable board for actually using in office (bashing it) :D because funny enough you like compact boards at home but sometimes want tons of button when at work
Post by: Zambumon on Thu, 19 November 2020, 14:22:57
I think zambumon wants to make really durable board for actually using in office (bashing it)
I just wanted a chonker board.
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Post by: iaman on Fri, 20 November 2020, 12:00:55
I just wanted a chonker board.The noblest of intentions
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 20 November 2020, 12:05:18
SAR SO LIT.
Let's go!
I love you for this pcb color Wilba
Wilba isn't a color picker.
Thank you for the nice PCB color Zamb
Post by: tdubya on Fri, 20 November 2020, 17:17:22
Looks awesome.
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Post by: whykayallday on Sun, 29 November 2020, 21:15:55
This keyboard looks cool, but I find it hard to see it as a productivity instrument with so few bottom row keys since they all (including Super) have some use to many people.
You can just remap the bottom row to your liking.
Post by: clik_clak on Sun, 29 November 2020, 21:18:53
This keyboard looks cool, but I find it hard to see it as a productivity instrument with so few bottom row keys since they all (including Super) have some use to many people.
You can just remap the bottom row to your liking.
And it's stupid easy to re-program them to whatever you want using VIA as well.
Post by: Tothy on Sun, 29 November 2020, 21:25:19
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Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 30 November 2020, 06:28:01
Interested depending on price.
It's a big board, with a curvy bottom piece, internal weight, and a 4.75mm milled plate. There are not really many compromises with the construction of this board.
Post by: LucaLo_ on Mon, 30 November 2020, 08:33:16
also, damn she thicc
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Post by: LenniO on Thu, 10 December 2020, 09:27:21
Beautiful design but what is it with "custom" boards that do not allow any layout variety and come completely fixed? I would be in the market for a compact "full-size" but this product is clearly meant for our friends in the US. :cool:Amen
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Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 10 December 2020, 15:20:10
Beautiful design but what is it with "custom" boards that do not allow any layout variety and come completely fixed? I would be in the market for a compact "full-size" but this product is clearly meant for our friends in the US. :cool:I agree. At least a solderable pcb with some options would be nice, even as an add on.
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Post by: AdeelDante on Sat, 12 December 2020, 03:11:53
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 12 December 2020, 21:37:42
Beautiful design but what is it with "custom" boards that do not allow any layout variety and come completely fixed? I would be in the market for a compact "full-size" but this product is clearly meant for our friends in the US. :cool:No.
I wanted to make a thick plate, fixed layout board.
Post by: Xeryn on Sun, 13 December 2020, 03:51:48
Post by: JinJuu on Mon, 14 December 2020, 01:16:12
The only thing that hurts is lack of winkey, but I'll probably reprogram something else - maybe f13, since I don't know what it is
I am willing to make sacrifices for this beauty
Post by: audax989 on Mon, 14 December 2020, 04:44:05
Oh my lord I'm fcking drooling, there is no way in all hell that I don't get this, unless the prices comes out to like 700+, in which case I'll probably get still get it but with tears streaming down my face. Awaiting price announcements now lol
The only thing that hurts is lack of winkey, but I'll probably reprogram something else - maybe f13, since I don't know what it is
I am willing to make sacrifices for this beauty
I also hope the price isn't as steep as that.
Post by: SirKhamenman on Mon, 14 December 2020, 06:03:51
Is there any other custom KB out there like this Sar, 60-65% keyboard with integrated numpad, but without the F rows? So far I only see Aegis Ext 65, but it's impossible to get it..
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 14 December 2020, 11:54:56
Maybe this is not relevant to the topic, but I guess somebody somebody can help me a little bit:
Is there any other custom KB out there like this Sar, 60-65% keyboard with integrated numpad, but without the F rows? So far I only see Aegis Ext 65, but it's impossible to get it..
duck blackbird
Post by: Fluxodin on Mon, 14 December 2020, 18:08:36
Maybe this is not relevant to the topic, but I guess somebody somebody can help me a little bit:
Is there any other custom KB out there like this Sar, 60-65% keyboard with integrated numpad, but without the F rows? So far I only see Aegis Ext 65, but it's impossible to get it..
Westfoxtrots cypher, and duck blackbird as puddsy mentioned are the only others I know of. Idk about the blackbird, but there’s talks of another round of cypher soon on their discord :thumb:
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 14 December 2020, 22:18:08
Maybe this is not relevant to the topic, but I guess somebody somebody can help me a little bit:I think the Flex Apogee is like you described, but with Southpaw (numpad on left). I’m wondering whether there will be a conventional (numpad on right) option as well, but I think that requires a wholly different PCB...
Is there any other custom KB out there like this Sar, 60-65% keyboard with integrated numpad, but without the F rows? So far I only see Aegis Ext 65, but it's impossible to get it..
EDIT: Yes, the IC says there will be a normal config. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106299.0 . The IC has been quiet for weeks now. But last I heard, Flx was still going to do this.
There is another Southpaw board as well. Going to search...
EDIT: It’s the Wyvern: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105187.0 . Please note this one is Southpaw only. The GB for Wyvern seems imminent.
Post by: SirKhamenman on Tue, 15 December 2020, 00:18:57
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 21 December 2020, 00:05:55
Thanks for the help!...and one more..?
Once more,this isn’t exactly what you asked for, but a southpaw. Are you interested in southpaws?
[IC] Bushwacker - super wide, southpaw
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?share_fid=2190&share_tid=110255&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgeekhack%2Eorg%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D110255&share_type=t&link_source=app
Post by: SirKhamenman on Mon, 21 December 2020, 07:01:54
For the keyboards mentioned above, a quick check on Reddit r/mm returns me either no one selling them, or they are selling at $1500+ which is something a I cannot afford :(
So yeah, I will definitely follow this Sar. And also Zambumon's Fisterra :)
Post by: noorejji on Mon, 21 December 2020, 07:47:38
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Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 21 December 2020, 12:54:39
Actually I have no problem with Southpaw! And I also already saw that IC and follow it.Good to know you like it!
For the keyboards mentioned above, a quick check on Reddit r/mm returns me either no one selling them, or they are selling at $1500+ which is something a I cannot afford :(
So yeah, I will definitely follow this Sar. And also Zambumon's Fisterra :)
Regarding the boards I first suggested, you won’t find either on r/mm, since they haven’t reached GB yet. The Wyvern is still in IC on Geekhack, as is the Flx Apogee.
As mentioned before, I suggest joining the Discord for the Wyvern, they sound almost ready to start the GB.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105187.0
https://www.mysticworks.xyz/discord
The Apogee is one of my first favourites in the hobby, the curves seem beautiful to me. But it’s been idle for a while, it looks like Flx is quite busy with other things at the moment.
All indications are that the GB will still happen though.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106299.0
By all accounts, Flx is an outstanding designer, I hope I have the budget for the Apogee when it happens.
I think the other boards will probably be quite pricey on r/mm, yes.
Post by: Engedi_ on Mon, 21 December 2020, 14:11:17
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Post by: hkhawk on Sat, 26 December 2020, 20:46:07
We are waiting for parts to be re-anodized. In the meantime, I have tested a cerakoted assembly with the 4.75mm brass plate. I'm happy with the typing sounds and the feel of the keyboard.
Out of interest, what kind of switches were you using with the thick brass plate?
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Post by: Sicowa on Fri, 01 January 2021, 20:19:36
Defininetly getting a Zambu board :thumb:
Love the design language
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Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 09 January 2021, 15:24:12
just wondering but does this have a 1.5u right shift or a 1.75u right shift?
Left shift is 2.25U. Right shift is 1.75U
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Mon, 18 January 2021, 00:41:40
I am totally into 1800s and this board looks so great!
However, I have a small question. I would go for the Black version, however I fear, that an all black-out board would look kinda empty.
Do you think it would be possible to buy an additional bottom aluminum piece? For example, I would buy a black Sar and a silver bottom.
If not then it would be fine too, am just curious. :D
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Mon, 18 January 2021, 03:17:15
Post by: sh_xguitar on Mon, 18 January 2021, 05:29:25
I am okay with this friendly layout because can accommodate cherry OG keycaps. But, do you (and wilba) have any plan to make solderable-multi layout version PCB?
Post by: Zambumon on Mon, 18 January 2021, 07:45:46
Hey Zambumon!
I am totally into 1800s and this board looks so great!
However, I have a small question. I would go for the Black version, however I fear, that an all black-out board would look kinda empty.
Do you think it would be possible to buy an additional bottom aluminum piece? For example, I would buy a black Sar and a silver bottom.
If not then it would be fine too, am just curious. :D
No.
As this has been proposed as an unlimited group buy, I want to make things as easy as possible on the fulfillment end and reduce the number of variants to a minimum. I have no plans to offer any extra parts other than extra plates and extra PCBs.
Hi!
I am okay with this friendly layout because can accommodate cherry OG keycaps. But, do you (and wilba) have any plan to make solderable-multi layout version PCB?
No.
I have no plans to offer a multiple layout PCB, specially with this fixed plate.
Post by: dr_crombel on Sat, 23 January 2021, 05:39:31
Beautiful :thumb:
I have no question.
I'm just waiting for the GB date.
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Post by: senencito1 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 04:41:33
Oh my lord I'm fcking drooling, there is no way in all hell that I don't get this, unless the prices comes out to like 700+, in which case I'll probably get still get it but with tears streaming down my face. Awaiting price announcements now lolThe way I see it, Taking a page from hhkb it can be setup like this :
The only thing that hurts is lack of winkey, but I'll probably reprogram something else - maybe f13, since I don't know what it is
I am willing to make sacrifices for this beauty
Caps lock becomes ctrl
Left Ctrl would be win key
And right ctrl would be menú key (for using excel without mouse )
That setup would make this keyboard perform perfectly.
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Post by: Lord_Rabel on Sat, 06 March 2021, 01:09:48
I love this but I dont think I could use a non-iso-compatible 1800I'm from Germany, so I was used to the ISO enter too. To be honest I got into the normal ANSI enter very quickly, and I don't miss the ISO enter at all. Furthermore, there are so many better keycap options if you go with ANSI because the ISO enter just doesn't look so nice in my humble opinion.
So if You are really into 1800s like I am, this board will be fire!
Post by: djsato on Sat, 06 March 2021, 03:46:33
I'm not sure if this'll come with ESD protection?
I'm pretty sure all Wilba PCBs have ESD protection
Post by: Zambumon on Fri, 12 March 2021, 18:08:36
Hey Zamb! This is really cool! Great choice for both board and PCB manufacturers. Sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but has a prototype been made yet?
Yes. Multiple. I've been typing on one for many months.
I'm not sure if this has been asked before because I'm a lazy dunce who doesn't want to read, but what kind of hot-swap sockets are used on the WT90-A?
Kailh.
Post by: bobdenard on Sat, 13 March 2021, 02:13:04
Post by: bobtheguitar on Tue, 16 March 2021, 06:21:06
I know the Striker R2 macro expansion kit has one. (Stepped control, too, which would be nice.)
Do you guys know any other kits currently running, or soon to run, with one?
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Tue, 16 March 2021, 08:31:23
Had been thinking of pairing the momentum red Sar with GMK Watermelon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111724.0). But I just realised that I'd like an R1 = for the numpad, which Watermelon doesn't have.
I know the Striker R2 macro expansion kit has one. (Stepped control, too, which would be nice.)
Do you guys know any other kits currently running, or soon to run, with one?
Maybe more on https://mechgroupbuys.com/keycaps But I would just put both - keys there. I mean I know that the upper one does the =
Post by: MCXL on Tue, 16 March 2021, 12:23:35
Hey Zambumon!
I am totally into 1800s and this board looks so great!
However, I have a small question. I would go for the Black version, however I fear, that an all black-out board would look kinda empty.
Do you think it would be possible to buy an additional bottom aluminum piece? For example, I would buy a black Sar and a silver bottom.
If not then it would be fine too, am just curious. :D
Just buy two and mix and match? Truthfully, I bet you can find users who would be interested in taking up the other side of that as well, (say someone who wants a blue top and a black bottom.)
Post by: Lord_Rabel on Tue, 16 March 2021, 13:33:07
Just buy two and mix and match? Truthfully, I bet you can find users who would be interested in taking up the other side of that as well, (say someone who wants a blue top and a black bottom.)
I would love to do so, but it would be pretty hard finding someone to trade with.
Post by: bobtheguitar on Wed, 17 March 2021, 09:54:00
Had been thinking of pairing the momentum red Sar with GMK Watermelon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111724.0). But I just realised that I'd like an R1 = for the numpad, which Watermelon doesn't have.
I know the Striker R2 macro expansion kit has one. (Stepped control, too, which would be nice.)
Do you guys know any other kits currently running, or soon to run, with one?
Maybe more on https://mechgroupbuys.com/keycaps But I would just put both - keys there. I mean I know that the upper one does the =
Obviously that is an option. But (i) the duplication is objectionable and (ii) keycaps that misrepresent their keys' functions are objectionable. (I find it surprising that people who spend so much on boards and keycaps can fail to care about this kind of thing!) So a novelty would be preferable to the R1 -. Or I could always have the key do something else for which there is an appropriate legend. But I'd prefer an R1 =, and for the key to do that.
And thanks for the link. I'd already checked on there, but it's a lot to look through and I don't trust myself not to miss things, so thought I'd consult the hive mind.
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Post by: BRSxIgnition on Fri, 14 May 2021, 15:27:25
This is my first post here, and the Sar would be my first custom keyboard
(Also, just want to say that the two-tone look of the Silver/Blue versions is so good.)
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Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 15 May 2021, 11:58:35
I noticed 3 Led pipes in the component list. Where are they meant to be shining through? I couldn't tell from the renders (or maybe I missed it).
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3 LED indicators between the Functions and navigation cluster
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Post by: Vphan on Sat, 15 May 2021, 11:59:14
Ah got it. Thank you for the quick reply, @ZambumonI noticed 3 Led pipes in the component list. Where are they meant to be shining through? I couldn't tell from the renders (or maybe I missed it).
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3 LED indicators.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4JvboWw.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4MiqJAV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hufFeMD.jpg)
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Post by: SpinningHook on Sat, 15 May 2021, 12:12:43
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 15 May 2021, 13:33:54
I want this, but please release it in two to three years, when I will be able to afford it. Really digging the design and colorways.
Pre-order this year.
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Post by: Zambumon on Tue, 15 June 2021, 16:15:56
Good news! Salvun has finally received a Datron Neo which will be used to make the 4.75mm plates and weights and I've already received samples of them.
Given that the typing feel and sound signature depending on the plate is substantially different, currently, we are prepping a set of review units with both a brass and polycarbonate plate.
Something worth mentioning about these pieces is that the polycarbonate we are using is UV stable and as a result of such feature it has a fantastic faint dark tint. Salvun has sent me samples of both a bead-blasted and clear unit, and it is likely that we'll go with the latter. I guess I'll have to update some renders.
(https://i.imgur.com/bPevXcV.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/R0JRzLs.png)
Post by: roguesystem087 on Wed, 16 June 2021, 02:06:44
is there no chance of a just blue board ? (kinda a pain to buy two boards just to get the color combo right)
(i know its asking a lot to not do the two tone, but just wondering if its possible to skip it or have the choice to choose the color)
Post by: prognostics on Wed, 16 June 2021, 06:00:54
Do you still intend to release the two tone blue and silver?
is there no chance of a just blue board ? (kinda a pain to buy two boards just to get the color combo right)
(i know its asking a lot to not do the two tone, but just wondering if its possible to skip it or have the choice to choose the color)
From his website, it looks like the blue and silver two tone is intended to be released.
Just blue (or any other combination that is not MOMENTUM RED – PWNER SOUL BLACK – LIGHTNING SILVER – SAMURAI BLUE) is not offered because "Adding colors means adding even more complexity for the pre-order.", according to him on Discord.
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Post by: stimulating fly on Wed, 07 July 2021, 21:39:39
Post by: Rubbermilitia on Thu, 08 July 2021, 00:22:50
Did you know I wake up every day checking to see if this is ready for gbLol same, checking for a friend. This is by far the best looking option atm for an 1800 with f-row
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Post by: chnhngxn on Thu, 09 September 2021, 03:23:23
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Post by: Faceman76 on Wed, 10 November 2021, 07:45:41
1 year of IC and we dont see any progress so farI've bought several TKC1800's since. I would have preferred a pretty metal case, but oh well.
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Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 12 November 2021, 19:39:43
Who knows when that will ever be.
Post by: DaaDaa on Fri, 12 November 2021, 20:51:39
Post by: bball2 on Fri, 12 November 2021, 20:53:26
Zambumon posted on his Discord this morning that this has been delayed until metal prices go down.
Who knows when that will ever be.
Damn that's too bad
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 12 November 2021, 21:37:58
why would anyone assume that the metal prices will go down anytime soon? that's not really something probable.
I agree, but not much we can do about it.
It seems like a good way to put off a GB for 2 years as you watch metal prices continue to grow.
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