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Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: dan_public on Wed, 28 July 2010, 22:31:30

Now that I've gotten the feel of a decent mechanical keyboard (I now have two "Majestouch Tenkeyless Tactile Touch" Brown Cherry keyboards: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb), I've been bitten by the bug and have gained a decent understanding of the art and magic of mechanical keyboards.   That is, except for one piece of wisdom - what the heck is the difference between the Realforce 86U and 87U?

Here's the 86U: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0500

I can find this answer anywhere.

Thanks,

Dan.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: maxlugar on Wed, 28 July 2010, 22:49:15

Quote from: dan_public;207268

Now that I've gotten the feel of a decent mechanical keyboard (I now have two "Majestouch Tenkeyless Tactile Touch" Brown Cherry keyboards: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb), I've been bitten by the bug and have gained a decent understanding of the art and magic of mechanical keyboards.   That is, except for one piece of wisdom - what the heck is the difference between the Realforce 86U and 87U?

Here's the 86U: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0500

I can find this answer anywhere.

Thanks,

Dan.

Blue LEDs.  The 87U has Blue LEDs in the key caps for CAPS Lock and NumLock.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: phoenix on Thu, 29 July 2010, 00:22:12

The 86u lets you swap Ctrl and Alt, so you can press Ctrl with your thumb. This could be really useful depending on which one you use more frequently.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: ironman31 on Thu, 29 July 2010, 00:47:50

Quote from: phoenix;207357

The 86u lets you swap Ctrl and Alt, so you can press Ctrl with your thumb. This could be really useful depending on which one you use more frequently.

dont you mean control and caps lock...?

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: maxlugar on Thu, 29 July 2010, 00:49:26

Quote from: dan_public;207268

Now that I've gotten the feel of a decent mechanical keyboard (I now have two "Majestouch Tenkeyless Tactile Touch" Brown Cherry keyboards: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87meb), I've been bitten by the bug and have gained a decent understanding of the art and magic of mechanical keyboards.   That is, except for one piece of wisdom - what the heck is the difference between the Realforce 86U and 87U?

Here's the 86U: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0500

I can find this answer anywhere.

Thanks,

Dan.

The missing key on the 86U (vs. the 87U) iw the right hand side Windows key on the bottom row.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 July 2010, 06:53:57

Quote from: ironman31;207376

dont you mean control and caps lock...?

I believe this is the case.  Also, the 86U does not have the virtual numpad; it's more like the Filco Tenkeyless this way.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 29 July 2010, 07:07:08

IIRC, the 86U has no lock lights.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: javifast on Thu, 29 July 2010, 07:43:23

And I think the 86U model have some 30g keys, and on the 87U are 35g...

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: phoenix on Thu, 29 July 2010, 10:59:36

Quote from: itlnstln;207437

I believe this is the case.  Also, the 86U does not have the virtual numpad; it's more like the Filco Tenkeyless this way.

No, I mean Ctrl and Alt, unless Elitekeyboards made a mistake on their website:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0500 (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se0500)

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: ironman31 on Thu, 29 July 2010, 11:22:24

ok, sorry, I thought you meant the actually keycaps. Yeah, the dip switches do make that possible.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: dan_public on Thu, 29 July 2010, 19:10:18

Thanks.   It sounds like there's nothing of significance (for me) between the two.   I'm happy with my two Filco's.   Of course, it might be nice to try out an 86U...  :yo:  

Dan.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: sam113101 on Thu, 29 July 2010, 22:35:38

somebody knows if the 87U will be back on elitekeyboard some day*?
it seems better than the 86U to me, with the LEDs, the pseudo-numpad, etc…

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: didjamatic on Thu, 29 July 2010, 22:44:30

Quote from: javifast;207449

And I think the 86U model have some 30g keys, and on the 87U are 35g...

Right you are.  I got a 103u from elite that had this configuration, many argue with me because it's supposed to be 35/45/55 but that's what I got.  The Realforce 101 was a 30/45/55 board and I wondered if my 103u was mistakenly fitted with 101 domes.  

I never noticed the 86u was like that.  For me, I strongly prefer 35/45

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 30 July 2010, 06:54:07

The box for my 103U says 30/45/55 (Elitekeyboards shows the same).  Maybe I didn't quite get what you were trying to say.

Title: Differences between Realforce 86U and 87U
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 30 July 2010, 10:13:06

Ah, got it.  I thought it was a little odd that they would drop the weight all the way down to 30g. on those keys.