It doesn't look bad, and there is definetly a version with ÆØÅ as the founders of steelseries are Danish.
It's lacking features that I never use compared to the G7 so that's fine aswell... but it's .. it's huuuuuuuuge!! :-)
Do cherry make keyboards anymore? haven't really been able to find any by them. They're big enough that they might do keyboards with Danish letters.
BTW do you know if steelseries keyboards (G7 and G6V2) are made by http://www.diatec.co.jp/en ?? they sure look like those keyboards.
Well, for a compact keyboard, you don't have a huge amount of alternatives.
Wait - didn't see your tenkeyless requirement... How similar is the Swedish layout?The Swedish layout is almost identical with the Danish. The only difference it that the Swedish keyboard have "Ö Ä" instead of "Æ Ø" and that "|" and "\" is placed on different locations.
I will admit, though, living in the States, I'm obviously going to be used to the US layout, which includes the ANSI-style Enter key.
I belive you can buy a KB with any layout and adapt. Just ignore the lettering on the keycaps.
Ignoring the key caps is easy. And adapting to a layout can be done quite quickly, yes. But not in minutes. When you have to use different keyboards several times every day it's very hard to adapt to different keyboard layout. Then it's better you go for the layout that is mostly used where you live. But what characters there is on the different key caps is most often totally irrelevant. (At least for me that almost never looks at the keyboard.)
I can switch between the US and UK layouts without thinking. Didn't take much practice either.
That said, they're basically the same thing...
Anyway. My recommendation to moby would be to ignore the demands for ÆØÅ and just get a German style Cherry G80-1800LPC (LCP = Cherry MX black). I bought my G80-3000LQC (LQC = Cherry MX clear) from Jacob Elektronik in Germany. They have the Germen style G80-1800 with the European ISO style vertical enter key for reasonable prices here:The G80-1800 is just a little bit wider than a tenkeyless. None of the smaller Cherry keyboards have NKRO, though.
(in white) http://www.jacob-computer.de/Eingabeger%E4te_Tastaturen_Cherry_Classic_Line_G80-1800_-_Tastatur_-_PS-2%2C_USB_-_105_Tasten_-_Hellgrau_-_Deutsch_%28G80-1800LPCDE-0%29_artnr_220821.html
(in black) http://www.jacob-computer.de/Eingabeger%E4te_Tastaturen_Cherry_Classic_Line_G80-1800_-_Tastatur_-_PS-2%2C_USB_-_105_Tasten_-_Schwarz_-_Deutsch_%28G80-1800LPCDE-2%29_artnr_414347.html
Because Cherry makes also rubber-dome keyboards, you want to make sure that you get a G80 - series keyboard. Learn also the codes in the Wiki for the various MX switches.
The G80-1800 is just a little bit wider than a tenkeyless. None of the smaller Cherry keyboards have NKRO, though.
I loathe those reverse-L-shaped Enter keys, moving the Backslash/Pipe key usually down below and beside Right Shift instead of its rightful place just above Enter and beside Right Bracket. I've actually disregarded several otherwise-very-promising keyboards because of it, including the famed Northgate OmniKey line.
I will admit, though, living in the States, I'm obviously going to be used to the US layout, which includes the ANSI-style Enter key. I'm just used to reaching over to the left edge of it whenever I hit it, whereas those Europe-style keys would force me to use a greater reach.
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One thing I'm not so sure on is whether or not I should get one with brown or black keys. Even though it will promarily be used for gaming,...(
Money transfer from a Swedish bank to a German bank costs .. about 9 Euro.
Thats good for you. :)
Myself I have, as I written before, real troubles when changing between keyboard with verical and horizontal enter.
But we are all diffrent. :)
Ok, you guys convinced me to drop the ÆØÅ requirements. A swedish FILCO Majestouch 87 keys would be very nice, not sure such a piece exist though. Might end up buying one with a US layout. I'm really in love with it (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87mleb) :-)
One thing I'm not so sure on is whether or not I should get one with brown or black keys. Even though it will promarily be used for gaming, I just have a hard time imagining no tactile feedback whatsoever. I will probably end pushing the buttons all the way down rather than just 2 mm.... on the other hand I don't want to much tactile feedback. Man this is really difficult when you can't try out the keyssets :-(
You're making an issue out of nothing. It's only one square to the right - man up!
And the most problematic is that the key that sits between left shift and Z on vertical enter keyboard are moved to above the enter key instead.
I always found that key between left shift and Z to be somewhat awkward to hit. YMMV I suppose.
I loathe those reverse-L-shaped Enter keys, moving the Backslash/Pipe key usually down below and beside Right Shift instead of its rightful place just above Enter and beside Right Bracket. I've actually disregarded several otherwise-very-promising keyboards because of it, including the famed Northgate OmniKey line.
I will admit, though, living in the States, I'm obviously going to be used to the US layout, which includes the ANSI-style Enter key. I'm just used to reaching over to the left edge of it whenever I hit it, whereas those Europe-style keys would force me to use a greater reach.
Well... there is the Raptor Gaming K1, basically a G80-1800 with NKRO and a different logo on it. German layouts (at least) are still available, for about 75 euro.
Well being a UK person I just switched to US layout and I find it not only visually a lot more pleasing its also a lot better for typing and gaming for me. Love the bigger left shift straight away. And dont miss the big "L" enter at all.
If you buy it for Starcraft 2 then get a brown switch. Believe me :)Thank you very much. Searching for more than 1 hour in different websites to hear an explanation on how browns are compared to blacks in RTS. Especially when you mentioned rythm i turned to wanting browns, i've used the raptor k1 blacks for warcraft3 (200apm) and they weren't a big upgrade to rubber domes.
In Starcraft you care about the rhythm of your actions rather than the response time of your keyboard. And a brown switch will bring joy to your hand and keep your action in correct phases :)
Furthermore you will see yourself spamming your button very hard (especially if you play terran) and a black switch will make your little finger feel pain.
Do you have any issues with typing out things like £ or € with a US layout? (Perhaps there's a slightly altered one that turns the right Alt into Alt Gr for that, based on the printings I've seen of some boards here?)
Thank you very much. Searching for more than 1 hour in different websites to hear an explanation on how browns are compared to blacks in RTS. Especially when you mentioned rythm i turned to wanting browns, i've used the raptor k1 blacks for warcraft3 (200apm) and they weren't a big upgrade to rubber domes.
Bad thing is that now i can scratch the 6Gv2 from my list and save some more money since all the browns seem much more expensive. But i won't look at price just to get something in the end i am not satisfied with.
Never heard anyone has increase his APM efficiently just because he's got a nice mechanical keyboard.
I personally think someone who plays SC would benefit from a matrix layout as it can allow one hand to reach more keys with less movement if set up right.Show Image(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/hoggyboard/SDC10223.jpg)
Do you have any issues with typing out things like £ or € with a US layout? (Perhaps there's a slightly altered one that turns the right Alt into Alt Gr for that, based on the printings I've seen of some boards here?)