Post by: Laneware on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:20:19
MACRO - 1
By Laneware Peripherals
Feedback Form
https://forms.gle/kHN9opbVcGKY7orZ6 (https://forms.gle/kHN9opbVcGKY7orZ6)
Details
Form Factor: Numpad
Layouts: Regular, Southpaw, Macropad
Angle: 7 Degrees
PCB: Type C, QMK/VIA, Rotary Encoder, Hotswap Option
Encoder: Press to Change Function
Plate: Aluminium 1.5mm
Cost: ~$175 USD
Weight: ~802g / 1.77lb
Vendor: https://lanewareperipherals.com/ (https://lanewareperipherals.com/)
MACRO - 1 Kit Includes
Case: Annodized Aluminium Top and Bottom
Switch Plate: Annodizes Aluminium, 1.5mm
PCB: Supports Layouts Shown Below
Hardware: Screws, Bumpons, Encoder Knob
Prototype Images
PCB
Ft. GMK Oblivion V2
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CASES
Ft. GMK Oblivion V2
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Ft. GMK Oblivion V2
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Ft. GMK Oblivion V2
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Ft. GMK Striker, RAMA Striker, RAMA Kuro/Shiro
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Ft. ePTB Kuro/Shiro, S-Craft Artesian
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Colorways
Bullet
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Monochrome
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Raindrop
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Cloud
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Guilded Cloud
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View Book
Under Side
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Mounting Method (Gasket)
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USB Location
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To be Populated
Layouts
Standard, Southpaw, Macropad
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PCB Design
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Contact
Discord Server: https://discord.gg/h3GTsPWV9e (https://discord.gg/YfKeufp)
My Personal Discord: LANEWARE#0468
Email: support@laneware.xyz
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/lanewarep (https://www.facebook.com/lanewarep)
Post by: bball2 on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:23:45
Post by: of_sam on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:25:36
Post by: BeachFan69 on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:29:34
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:36:38
Looks great, form submitted!
Thanks for the feedback!
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:37:19
Wasn't a huge fan of your Raindrop board. I like this off first glance. Price looks alright and I like the layout. Will keep an eye out. Not a fan of the gold.
Thankyou for the feedback, hopefully I can win you over with this one ;D
Post by: Wasabiz on Fri, 11 December 2020, 00:24:23
Post by: LenniO on Fri, 11 December 2020, 00:24:50
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Post by: Laneware on Fri, 11 December 2020, 01:09:02
Looks good, agreed about the gold color - not a fan. Will look forward on the plate design.
Thanks for the feedback! What colored top would you like to see?
Post by: Boxes on Fri, 11 December 2020, 04:58:43
Post by: lknockoutl on Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:41:24
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:51:04
Post by: Inner-Ear on Fri, 11 December 2020, 07:39:11
Post by: alper_maestro on Fri, 11 December 2020, 08:11:14
If hotswap option is possible for the standard layout and a White color with Grey bottom, I'm in :thumb:
Post by: Laneware on Fri, 11 December 2020, 16:48:47
Filled in the form!
If hotswap option is possible for the standard layout and a White color with Grey bottom, I'm in :thumb:
White has been a very popular option on the feedback form, thanks for your feedback :D
Post by: dibstern on Fri, 11 December 2020, 19:52:13
Post by: Wasabiz on Sat, 12 December 2020, 07:47:38
Looks good, agreed about the gold color - not a fan. Will look forward on the plate design.
Thanks for the feedback! What colored top would you like to see?
Filled in the IC form :)
Post by: TPSM_00 on Sat, 12 December 2020, 08:22:14
Post by: keeganzero on Sat, 12 December 2020, 09:55:42
The gold top looks a little odd, but may look a lot better in person. I'll check back when you have a prototype to share.
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 12 December 2020, 19:08:52
Looks promising. If you can deliver at that price, I think this should be pretty successful.
The gold top looks a little odd, but may look a lot better in person. I'll check back when you have a prototype to share.
Thanks! We are looking to have the first prototypes here by mid-late January, so keep your eyes peeled!
Post by: Auracity on Sat, 12 December 2020, 22:03:30
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 14 December 2020, 19:39:42
To balance things out a bit... Huge fan of the gold. Especially paired with a silver base.
Thankyou for the feedback! Silver has also been a very popular option on the feedback form, just behing black and white.
Post by: AMAxyz on Mon, 14 December 2020, 20:06:24
This is a really exciting numpad. Highly consider adding a hotswap option! Also personally not a huge fan of the logo on the bottom, but if I can't see it, and it makes you feel good as the product runner/designer, then I guess it's tolerable; however, would much prefer to have the name of the numpad "MACRO-1" on instead.
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Tue, 15 December 2020, 06:28:32
Hopefully soon and in stock purchase, too much options shouldn't be an issue, i mean else would you want for a numpad.
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 15 December 2020, 18:41:38
This looks good. Hopefully this becomes available soon.
Hopefully soon and in stock purchase, too much options shouldn't be an issue, i mean else would you want for a numpad.
Thanks :D We are looking to have our prototyping completed in the next month. Currently, we are considering offering an in stock option (~50 peices) of the most popular colorway, alongside a GB for all popular colorways from the feedback form.
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Thu, 17 December 2020, 09:45:15
This looks good. Hopefully this becomes available soon.
Hopefully soon and in stock purchase, too much options shouldn't be an issue, i mean else would you want for a numpad.
Thanks :D We are looking to have our prototyping completed in the next month. Currently, we are considering offering an in stock option (~50 peices) of the most popular colorway, alongside a GB for all popular colorways from the feedback form.
That's great news! Please do ping on Discord so everyone have a chance on getting this. I hope to get in stock! Really excited for this.
Post by: NoR1ceNoLife on Thu, 17 December 2020, 22:30:43
Post by: Laneware on Fri, 18 December 2020, 22:58:21
Reserved! I'm personally a fan of the monochrome one, but a white version would be really nice as well. Do you plan on having different colors for the encoder or just the rendered color?We have ordered a selection of 6 different high quality knobs, 3 silver and 3 black, some blank on top, some with an arrow and some with a line. Based on this we will get feedback from the community and offer a single black and a single silver option.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 19 December 2020, 02:43:28
VIA would be incredible. Tbh I don’t understand the process of developing VIA compatibility, but I own a few boards pre-flashed with VIA compatible firmware and my god is it convenient.
Regarding the encoder knob, I prefer the idea of a blank top. Without a scale or hard stops, an indicator line or arrow doesn’t really make sense IMO. I do like the idea of knurling or ridges or something on the side though as rendered.
Regarding color, I’m easy. If the idea doesn’t offend you, I’d probably have the case sandblasted and cerakoted to match whatever key set I end up putting on it. As for the design, I like the top. Wouldn’t mind seeing a render with fillets, but the chamfer is nice. I’m not as big a fan of the bottom design. Between the screw holes, bumpons, and your logo, there’s a lot of ‘dots’ for lack of a better word. I’d personally prefer a blank bottom but understand wanting your logo on it, as I would if I were you. I’d suggest smaller and off center toward the bottom rather than in the center.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Happy holidays! I’m excited for this!
Post by: Laneware on Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:41:07
You definitely have my attention. Form submitted. I’ve wanted a good number pad for a while. The rotary encoder, gasket mount, VIA, and design definitely interest me. I’m excited to see a prototype. Regarding hotswap, since it would prohibit multiple layouts, I’d prefer solderable PCBs as standard with the kit to keep the cost down if having multiple layouts supported is a priority. That being said, since I would do a standard num pad layout, I’d like to at least have the option for a standard layout plate to avoid extra holes/gaps, even if it costs more. A bit contradictory, I know, but it’s how I feel.
VIA would be incredible. Tbh I don’t understand the process of developing VIA compatibility, but I own a few boards pre-flashed with VIA compatible firmware and my god is it convenient.
Regarding the encoder knob, I prefer the idea of a blank top. Without a scale or hard stops, an indicator line or arrow doesn’t really make sense IMO. I do like the idea of knurling or ridges or something on the side though as rendered.
Regarding color, I’m easy. If the idea doesn’t offend you, I’d probably have the case sandblasted and cerakoted to match whatever key set I end up putting on it. As for the design, I like the top. Wouldn’t mind seeing a render with fillets, but the chamfer is nice. I’m not as big a fan of the bottom design. Between the screw holes, bumpons, and your logo, there’s a lot of ‘dots’ for lack of a better word. I’d personally prefer a blank bottom but understand wanting your logo on it, as I would if I were you. I’d suggest smaller and off center toward the bottom rather than in the center.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Happy holidays! I’m excited for this!
Thanks for the awesome feedback! Besed on current feedback (250+), it's looking like we will offer all layouts on a standard solder type PCB and also the numpad as a hotswap option.
We are leaning towards a blank top encoder as well, although I can see the utility in a marking in knowing how far you have twisted the encoder for "X" output to happen. Either way, we will go with what ever option polls out (not yet added to the poll).
I'd love to see custom cerakoted builds! The uniqueness and people reflecting their personality through customisation if what initially drew me to this hobby :D
Happy Holidays to you as well!
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Mon, 21 December 2020, 10:16:06
Post by: Novuna on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:13:48
I think the price and design are on point, excited to see the prototype.
Post by: tommyhongg on Mon, 21 December 2020, 19:17:49
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 29 December 2020, 02:52:46
I know now where to put my 2 Sirius. ;DPerfect! I've got my two scout troopers lined up 😁
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 29 December 2020, 02:56:27
Looks great, ++interested in hotswap availability - if offered I'd be a sure buyer.
I think the price and design are on point, excited to see the prototype.
We will release the feedback results in the next week or so, but at this stage its looking like we will offer a hotswap option for the standard numpad layout 😁
Post by: KeyRelic on Tue, 29 December 2020, 03:34:52
Post by: DrSocha on Tue, 29 December 2020, 07:19:58
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 29 December 2020, 22:11:54
I want this, but I'm not sure about the knob placement. For a right handed person, won't whole hand sit on keycaps all the time, not trying to push any of it while using the knob?
To us, it felt more natural and ergonomic to have the knob on the left and control the encoder with your index and thumb whilst supporting your hand with your pinky and ring finger on the sides of the case. Looking at other projects, I would say at a rough estimate, 70% of macropads have followed this same logic. We are however still in the prototyping phase, so if the feedback that we get back from testers is that it feels unatural, we may change it. Thanks for your input! :)
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 30 December 2020, 16:51:57
Interested in white as well and dig the knob placement. I like to change switches often, since multi-layout hotswap PCB is becoming a thing splitting enter/plus keys wouldn't be a bad idea if there's enough interest. I'm still using stacked acrylic numpad so MACRO-1 might be the right choice. Good luck, looking forward to it.White has been very popular, thankyou for the feedback and support :D ! We have played around with the idea of offering multiple hotswap layouts on the one PCB, however there are overlaps between the 2u stabelizer holes and the 1u hotswap socket, see below image.
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Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Mon, 04 January 2021, 01:41:35
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 04 January 2021, 02:40:17
Post by: Tom Sparrow on Mon, 04 January 2021, 04:19:48
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 04 January 2021, 04:23:18
I feel like this is more numpad than macro pad right? I was confused for a sec when I saw "MACRO" and didn't see a macro pad.
We chose to render the Numpad to make it obvious that it will fill both the macro pad and numpad demand. Our original intention was to make a large macro pad, so a 4x5 macropad that can double up as a numpad was the perfect choice for us :D
Post by: Laneware on Fri, 08 January 2021, 21:44:54
Post by: Frayne on Sat, 09 January 2021, 18:08:50
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 09 January 2021, 18:49:57
I am very interested in this, will it require soldering, or do we just put it together with screws?
The standard option will require the switches and encoder to be soldered. The hotswap option will require no soldering.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sat, 09 January 2021, 19:42:35
I want this, but I'm not sure about the knob placement. For a right handed person, won't whole hand sit on keycaps all the time, not trying to push any of it while using the knob?
To us, it felt more natural and ergonomic to have the knob on the left and control the encoder with your index and thumb whilst supporting your hand with your pinky and ring finger on the sides of the case. Looking at other projects, I would say at a rough estimate, 70% of macropads have followed this same logic. We are however still in the prototyping phase, so if the feedback that we get back from testers is that it feels unatural, we may change it. Thanks for your input! :)
This makes sense to me, as long as the pot tactile resistance isn't super stiff to push down on.
Digging this project, it looks great.
Post by: Mickon on Sun, 10 January 2021, 01:05:48
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 11 January 2021, 14:54:18
-The price of raw material has risen over 33%
-The price of electrical components have sky rocketed, as an example, our PCB manufacturer has increased the price of micro controllers by 250% due to supply and demand issues
-The exchange rate between RMB and UDS has gone up 10% (The USD is buying 10% less RMB)
We appreciate everyones feedback to date and hope to see your continued support in bringing this project to life. Thanks again and stay safe!
Post by: alper_maestro on Mon, 11 January 2021, 15:44:40
Unfortunately that's too expensive for me. :(
Good luck anyway.
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 11 January 2021, 16:10:51
From 99 USD to 175 USD?!
Unfortunately that's too expensive for me. :(
Good luck anyway.
Yes, we were hoping to keep it under $125 USD as an initial estimate based on our previous project costs. Unfortunatly the compound effect of drastically increased material and part costs alongside the decreasing USD value has not allowed this to be possible.
Thankyou for the support and feedback that you have given us in this project, it is very appreciated. Between delays and price hikes, it has been a rough year the the mech keeb community, hopefully things can start to return to normal soon!
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 11 January 2021, 16:13:47
From 99 USD to 175 USD?!
Unfortunately that's too expensive for me. :(
Good luck anyway.
EDIT: I thought this wasn't posting but it was just going onto the next page :p
Yes, we were aiming to keep the cost under $125 USD as an initial estimate based on our previous project. Unfortunatly, the compounding effect of significantly increased material and part costs alongside the decreasing value of the USD has made this not possible.
Thankyou very much for the support and feedback that you have given this project, it is very appreciated.
Between delays and price hikes, it has been a rough year for the mech keeb community, hopefully things can start to return to normal soon!
Post by: Laneware on Mon, 11 January 2021, 23:05:14
Post by: Isshin on Tue, 12 January 2021, 18:02:44
It is an awesome design, But I would have loved seeing going similar way but more towards macro than a full numpad.
I would definitely buy a 10 key macro design with the rotary. (3 top rows of current design/cutting off 3 bottom rows) it would be spot on exactly what I am looking for.
GL!
Post by: Rullebrett on Tue, 12 January 2021, 19:31:15
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 13 January 2021, 11:33:11
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 14 January 2021, 16:54:59
Obviously I’d love it if it were cheaper, but I’m still interested if $175 or below. It may be less of a guaranteed buy for me though, more dependent on my finances at the time of GB. I wouldn’t mind paring pcb options down to one solderable option rather than including hot swap option(s), but I realize not everyone may feel that way. Best of luck with the prototypes! Can’t wait to see them!
Thanks for your feedback :D Currently we are planning to have one solderable option with all 3 layouts alongside 1 hotswap option for the numpad layout. The added cost of a hotswap option will be entirely covered by those that choose it.
Post by: Xury46 on Fri, 22 January 2021, 23:20:41
Post by: Laneware on Sun, 24 January 2021, 21:47:45
I'm really excited about this macro pad. I've used a Corsair K70 for a long time, the volume wheel above the numpad is an amazing feature that I miss on other boards. I need a numpad for my work, but most of the options out there for custom boards skip numpads, let alone a rotary encoder. If I get one of these I could get a TKL to go along with it and I'll be fully functional, count me in!!!
I've been using & testing the prototype PCB for a while now, and I can agree that it is incredibly usefull. I also programmed one of the top macro buttons to open the calculator which is so much more usefull than I could of imagined :D
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 25 January 2021, 01:35:54
I also programmed one of the top macro buttons to open the calculator which is so much more usefull than I could of imagined :D
BRILLIANT. Oh my god now I definitely need this.
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 28 January 2021, 03:06:42
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Post by: nostr on Mon, 01 February 2021, 08:45:05
Post by: Laneware on Tue, 09 February 2021, 23:31:35
Post by: niakulah on Wed, 10 February 2021, 06:31:08
Is that a 25mm knob?
Post by: Rexcramer on Wed, 10 February 2021, 10:59:59
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 10 February 2021, 15:20:56
Raindrop colorway with GMK Rudy would be sick!
Is that a 25mm knob?
That would look very clean! The knob pictured is 23.5, it will fit up to a 24.5
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 10 February 2021, 15:22:18
Will the plate files be available after the GB ends? Would like to try the Macropad with a CF or PC plate.
Sure will be! We release plate files and Pantone colors as soon as the GB is closed so that people can organise their own modifications before it arrives :)
Post by: vanquishings on Wed, 10 February 2021, 17:14:24
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 11 February 2021, 19:15:06
Post by: Zootielolo on Sun, 14 February 2021, 03:04:35
Post by: Domey93 on Sun, 14 February 2021, 05:19:32
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 18 February 2021, 04:13:57
I am so hyped for this. Will it only be purchasable through your shop, or is there a chance for a european vendor?
Glad to hear it! This one will be available through lanewareperipherals.com only, the less expensive product didn't make sense for us to take on a European Vendor this time.
Post by: Biskwit157 on Thu, 18 February 2021, 05:42:40
Any idea when the GB will launch?I am so hyped for this. Will it only be purchasable through your shop, or is there a chance for a european vendor?
Glad to hear it! This one will be available through lanewareperipherals.com only, the less expensive product didn't make sense for us to take on a European Vendor this time.
Post by: ManoliVisuals on Thu, 18 February 2021, 12:44:07
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 18 February 2021, 13:56:57
Planning on 3-4 weeks from now, the exact time will be released 2 weeks prior to the GBAny idea when the GB will launch?I am so hyped for this. Will it only be purchasable through your shop, or is there a chance for a european vendor?
Glad to hear it! This one will be available through lanewareperipherals.com only, the less expensive product didn't make sense for us to take on a European Vendor this time.
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 18 February 2021, 14:02:18
Post by: Laneware on Thu, 18 February 2021, 14:12:26
Any possibility of getting a USB-C passthrough on this so I can daisy chain it to my keyboard?I've had this suggestion a few times and I'm considering it 😁👍
Post by: Biskwit157 on Thu, 18 February 2021, 14:58:10
Any possibility of getting a USB-C passthrough on this so I can daisy chain it to my keyboard?I've had this suggestion a few times and I'm considering it
Post by: nostr on Sat, 27 February 2021, 03:56:51
Post by: Laneware on Sat, 27 February 2021, 21:28:24
Would this run unlimited for the duration of the GB?We are currently planning to limit it to 500 units due to our in house resources when it comes to QC and shipping. If there is significantly more demand then we will extend the limit and bring on more resources to meet demand.
Post by: jimmythetooth on Sun, 28 February 2021, 09:03:06
Post by: Xury46 on Wed, 03 March 2021, 19:23:27
The case prototype images look gorgeous but I can't tell which colorways they are supposed to match up with because of the sheen in the photos.
If you have final color samples ready can you post a photo with callouts for each colorway so it's more obvious which one is which?
In particular I'm not seeing the deep blue from the Raindrop anywhere. I think the images on the first page are supposed to be Raindrop but I want to be sure.
(The different shade of blue isn't a deal breaker, I just want to be sure I know which color to order when the group buy goes live!)
Post by: Laneware on Wed, 03 March 2021, 22:43:10
I'm so excited for this that I could explode.
The case prototype images look gorgeous but I can't tell which colorways they are supposed to match up with because of the sheen in the photos.
If you have final color samples ready can you post a photo with callouts for each colorway so it's more obvious which one is which?
In particular I'm not seeing the deep blue from the Raindrop anywhere. I think the images on the first page are supposed to be Raindrop but I want to be sure.
(The different shade of blue isn't a deal breaker, I just want to be sure I know which color to order when the group buy goes live!)
Hi, all of the prototype photos are in the dark grey colorway. The prototypes were made to prove the dimensional and ergonomical aspects of the MACRO-1. The MACRO-1 will be made in the same factory as the Rainrop 60% and in the same Pantone colors, so verification of the specific colors is not nessecary. I hope this clears things up :D
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 04 March 2021, 03:06:33
Post by: Xury46 on Thu, 04 March 2021, 16:11:12
Hi, all of the prototype photos are in the dark grey colorway. The prototypes were made to prove the dimensional and ergonomical aspects of the MACRO-1. The MACRO-1 will be made in the same factory as the Rainrop 60% and in the same Pantone colors, so verification of the specific colors is not nessecary. I hope this clears things up :D
Thank you for the quick reply, that makes sense.
I can't wait for the Group Buy! :D
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