hmmm now might be a good time for that topless keyboard dance....She's not topless, but is a keyboard dancer.
Considering MW is already back at his prior BS, this time just in reduced volume form, I don't expect him to be around for long before iMav loses patience again.
He even reached out to me via email
I won't be arguing much more. If you don't like me, ignore me. End of story. And if you harrass me, I'll report you.
There used to be a bully at my playground too. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he is still there.
I think this group attracts the type of folks that can get along with each other better than most
OMG . Honestly I think everybody is taking everything waaaaay to seriously.
I remember the days when I was a member of aol and my first experience with public forums was a remarkably similar experience to dealing with the general public in person.
LAME.
On the receiving end, we would ALL do well to take everything posted on the net as whole with a grain of salt and remember that we can utilize the gray matter between our ears as a filter for what we let inside our hearts and minds.
There is one thing, and as far as I can tell, ONLY one thing in all the universe that I can control and that is my own behavior. This includes how I choose to interpret or perceive what enters my domain as well as how I choose to react to it.
On the dispensing end, for those of us who enjoy stirring up the pot a little for whatever reason, we should keep in mind that how we appear to ourselves is not always how we appear to others, and it behooves us as individuals and as a community to refrain from behaving in a manner that might not be as innocuous as it may seem, particularly in terms of context, or when we make a first impression. I am grateful for the "edit" button available to me here, as I often type away and click send before careful examination of what I might be sending (especially when I am tired - which is also a time when I sometimes don't carefully examine what I am reading either) and this feature has surely saved me some regret in hindsight.
There are some great words of wisdom written on, of all things, a bottle of soap I found at Mom's house. Took me a half-hour to read the entire label of Dr. Bronner's Castille soap, and I'm not even sure all of them are the same, but this one noted something like, "you are master of the unspoken word, once uttered you become it's slave." And someone else (Joyce Meyer?) once said something to the effect that the even the mightiest and most powerful of men have difficulty holding their own tongue. Something to consider before speaking first as well as when considering something said.
I guess the point is that ultimately we are all human, capable of both mistakes and of forgiving them. I find this forum populated with folks who seem to be a little more mindful than the general populace as a whole, which is why I was immediately attracted to it and feel comfortable expressing myself freely here. But water seeks its own level, as do people, I think, and anyone tempted to post here has probably, like me, done a little lurking first and isn't likely to get their panties in a wicked bunch over an unhelpful comment or two even if it IS the first response to theirs. In truth, the one most vilified as a troll here was one of the reasons I signed up, and it saddens me deeply that I shan't get to cross swords with him in the 'religion' thread. And yet, feeling unrelentingly attacked and unappreciated had ALMOST driven me to leave the forum that later introduced me to this one, and what prevented that was the positive efforts of a few members who reached out to me and mitigated the damage.
I think this group attracts the type of folks that can get along with each other better than most; I think if we do try to keep each other in check we can prevent frightening off newbies and still have fun. I am a firm believer in "do unto others" Golden Rule. Doing my best to uphold it sometimes means challenging myself to do things differently than I want to, but rarely regret after the fact.
(and who knows? if everybody plays nice, I just may do a little dance of joy...:tongue1:)
That was just plain rude Instantkamera. You make Voixdelion's point nicely though.
It appears that my hopes of this community self-regulating has bred an environment where many have no common courtesy towards others.
A rewrite of the rules and the employ of some moderators may become a necessity (which really is NOT the direction I wanted to go).
You make Voixdelion's point nicely though.
the employ of some moderators may become a necessity
That was just plain rude Instantkamera. You make Voixdelion's point nicely though.
It appears that my hopes of this community self-regulating has bred an environment where many have no common courtesy towards others.
A rewrite of the rules and the employ of some moderators may become a necessity (which really is NOT the direction I wanted to go).
I don't think we've gone to that point yet. We oughta encourage more self-regulation, use of the ignore list, and reporting of controversial posts. It also wouldn't hurt to create a rule restricting posts about sensitive topics (Religion, politics, war in Iraq, etc.) to the off-topic section.
We all have got all the tool needed to moderate already--Post reporting. If you report a post, it'll get sent to the admin who'll give the guy a warning or a ban. I think the problem is we under-use the system.
This. The community is beginning to grow to a size where people are starting to become more "anonymous" and the "small town" feeling Geekhack had is coming to an end. While new members are always welcome and wanted, I feel that some of the influx from other forums is less mature than the "old-timers" around here and some of this has been slightly detrimental (I know I don't participate as much as I used to). That said, the nature of this forum is going to draw a few myopic, self-centered/important, no social-skill-having people that will always cause conflict. The problem is, as more and more of these folks come in, I think the self-regulating nature we have had in the past will be over soon. Oh well, there is reason why governments exist; we can't live in anarchy forever.
This. The community is beginning to grow to a size where people are starting to become more "anonymous" and the "small town" feeling Geekhack had is coming to an end. While new members are always welcome and wanted, I feel that some of the influx from other forums is less mature than the "old-timers" around here and some of this has been slightly detrimental (I know I don't participate as much as I used to). That said, the nature of this forum is going to draw a few myopic, self-centered/important, no social-skill-having people that will always cause conflict. The problem is, as more and more of these folks come in, I think the self-regulating nature we have had in the past will be over soon. Oh well, there is reason why governments exist; we can't live in anarchy forever.
I think that's simplifying it too much. There's a lot that happens as a forum grows, and as its old-timers grow older, that has nothing to do with newcomers. As a newcomer, what I'm seeing here is spats between members that have been here a while, with post counts of 1000s. A certain amount of familiarity breeding contempt, combined with some members having become so comfortable here that they behave less well (and sometimes more immaturely) than they would in other public spaces perhaps?
I'm talking generally and not about any specific incidents, just saying how it looks on the surface from the perspective of a newcomer.
True, unless you have a douchebag for a moderator.
My definition and your definition of "insulting" are two different things, and I'm not sure either one of us would want the other banning each other over a subjective interpretation.
The group can make things happen; it got MW banned, right?
I agree with MW. I think we need to give ourselves a chance at self-moderation using the existing tools before we go full-blown with moderators.
quadding somebody ftw true true win! This.
Quadding somebody FTW True True WIN! This.
When I say "old-timers," I'm not looking at post count. The early days of this forum attracted a different crowd than what's here now. That's not to say there aren't some immature and ignorant old-timers as well, but the demographics of the forum have changed considerably in the last two years.
This what?
Spam
Remind me later, and I'll send you a pic. Be careful, it might fill up the inbox on your Gmail account.
My member behaves well in public places.
Now in Japan they had to designate Female only subway cars during rush hour because everyone is JAMMED together.Show Image(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4882791534_a4a7c90188_z.jpg)
The car is very pink on the inside and although we rode it at 10AM men were pretty rare.
very pink on the inside
and although we rode it at 10AM men were pretty rare.
Wow, exactly 7:32 a.m. 7:31 is OK, but 7:32, that's verboten.
Please do it at home.Show Image(http://news.3yen.com/wp-content/images/newspaper-tokyo-subway.png)
I didn't react to anything in your post other but for this one, I felt I had to comment. It's wrong. Take a look around, read some threads. This forum as actually on the low end of the friendly spectrum. Maybe it's all the assburgers.
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TL;DR
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Bribery will get you nowhere.
I wasn't only looking at post counts, but join dates as well. My point really is that the major factor perhaps isn't a difference in demographic, but a combination of lots of changes that happen as a forum evolves. The forum changes, the reasons why people arrive here change, and people (the old-timers) can change. I just don't agree with the 'different crowd' theory :)
and an opportunity to exercise a little practicing of what I preach.
...it was a ... baited hook.
Oh bribery is unnecessary, I have boobs. Really kind of incredible how far you can get with those. =D
Orchestrated? I'm flattered that you think I have this type of influence, but of the "100 PMs" that iMav received, I sent not a single one (except regarding John Deer).
It was your conversation with MW that got him to say the thing that got him banned, I called it as I saw it. Sorry if I was wrong.
Need a poll that shows how we voted. A public poll.
I hate public polls.
Unleash the inner beast, damn you!!
So that would be ... boobery then?
Im clearly not very clever. I guess that's what I get for including within the post a clip from the year's worst flick.
Shouldn't listen to Welly's conspiracy theories.
Nope. It's what you get for using the word "chalk" instead of "chock".:tongue:
yes, let's chock it up to that.
A rewrite of the rules and the employ of some moderators may become a necessity (which really is NOT the direction I wanted to go).
Oh bribery is unnecessary, I have boobs. Really kind of incredible how far you can get with those. =D
I wasn't only looking at post counts, but join dates as well. My point really is that the major factor perhaps isn't a difference in demographic, but a combination of lots of changes that happen as a forum evolves. The forum changes, the reasons why people arrive here change, and people (the old-timers) can change. I just don't agree with the 'different crowd' theory :)