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Title: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: LemonJR on Wed, 10 February 2021, 07:46:14
Hello everyone, I’m quite new to this hobby. I would like to ask if there are any good 75% or TKL keyboards that are under 300 USD? I liked the e7v2 and sat75 but they’re a bit too expensive, so currently I’m looking for TKL’s too. I don’t mind if it’s an ongoing/upcoming group buy, or even if it ended, given that I can get one around this price on mechmarket.
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: Darthbaggins on Wed, 10 February 2021, 11:03:04
GMMK Pro fits what you're wanting.
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 10 February 2021, 11:25:10
What is your definition of good? There are very few keyboards I would pay anywhere near $300 for. I guess I may just be cheap.

What features and characteristics do you want in a keyboard?
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: LemonJR on Wed, 10 February 2021, 11:35:57
What is your definition of good? There are very few keyboards I would pay anywhere near $300 for. I guess I may just be cheap.

What features and characteristics do you want in a keyboard?
The only strict requirement I have is that the bezels are not too thick.
Ideally it can be hotswap and white/blue in colour but I’m fine without these features.
For mounting styles, Bluetooth or not and etc I don’t really mind.
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: Maledicted on Wed, 10 February 2021, 12:10:42
What is your definition of good? There are very few keyboards I would pay anywhere near $300 for. I guess I may just be cheap.

What features and characteristics do you want in a keyboard?
The only strict requirement I have is that the bezels are not too thick.
Ideally it can be hotswap and white/blue in colour but I’m fine without these features.
For mounting styles, Bluetooth or not and etc I don’t really mind.

Did you like how the Satisfaction 75 had a rotary encoder? If so, the previous suggestion also has one. You can also reserve it in white, and it does have hot swap sockets (the product page doesn't seem to specify which kind). I may pick one of those up in black myself now that I see it.

I don't often look into most of the things you're looking for, so I wouldn't know whether or not there's an even better choice.

If you ever want to change caps, 75% options are going to be a lot more limited than TKL, if that's something you're concerned with.
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: louisgarbuor on Fri, 12 February 2021, 12:32:57
I have tried the HK Gaming/Durgod Galazy 75. Good board imo, main complaint is that it is quite pingy.
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 12 February 2021, 21:16:54
Ping comes from springs, not the keyboard.
The keyboard only amplifies it, some are better or worse but it all originates from the spring.

Good springs (and maybe some lube) stops ping, not that that advice helps on a soldered board.
Title: Re: Looking for 75% or Tkl keyboards
Post by: Surnia on Sun, 14 February 2021, 12:50:58
What is the honest definition of good in your case, and is your price inclusive of all parts or just the case + PCB + plate? As a beginner are you just looking for something to dip your toes in mechanical keyboards, or do you want to go full custom and build it yourself?

Within 75% there's a relatively huge range compared to years ago.

- Keychron K2 gets you everything minus programming at $70, for an entry level setup (plastic case, wireless/wired, white backlit, switches and keycaps included).
- KC84, RGB, wireless/wired, not fully programmable (has a lot though I believe). $90 USD.
- Entry custom with the XD84 on a bent steel case (PCB + stabs + Case is around $80 USD. Soldering required)
- KBD75v2 starts at $159, aluminum frame and foam included (no switches, no caps. soldering required)
- Upcoming GMMK Pro, $169 with RGB and hotswap, gasket plate. No switches or caps.
- Sky's the limit on the upper bounds, I believe there's a godspeed75 currently running at $380...

Switches and caps will level, or break your budget and are moderately of concern for compatibility. Right shift tends to be around 1.75u to accommodate the arrows, but there's a few options (or extra mod packs for keycap sets) to get around that. You can go from a cheap $20 Aliexpress PBT XDA/NP/whatever clone profile, to GMK/MT3/KAT profiles (typically around $100+) that easily cost more than the above boards. Switches can be as simple as Gaterons for next to nothing (under $30 for 110), or go crazy with NK Creams/Blueberries/Zeal switches (over $1 per switch, to about $90+ for a 75%. I'm aware there's pricier, I'm going with ease of accessibility)


I'm personally looking to rebuild a new work board (old Choc Mini, love that little thing still) and will be going with a KBD75v2 PCB, the XD84 bent steel case (minor compatibility problems), and Kailh Box Pinks. Caps are undecided but it may just get cheap Noppoo SA caps (~$30, requires a new shift key from other sets), or I might go nuts and pickup a dev/tty set. With the cap options in mind, that easily shifts my price point from ~$150 (PCB+case+everglide stabs+switches = $120) to $220 just with the second cheapest custom option above.

Would this define as a good board? For me it most likely will, but for someone who has a different taste in case aesthetics and a different desire for sound, that may be the worst option possible.