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Title: A thumb-friendly, stab-free 60% layout
Post by: Aydo on Fri, 12 February 2021, 11:28:55
Hi,

So I've been thinking about the perfect 60% layout based on the HHKB for quite a few years now and would like to share an initial design. Notice that this post is not about layout in the sense of "which switch sends which keycode", but rather about the physical layout without the semantics aspect of it.

To start off, here are are some (highly connected) things that are important to me:


So with these quirks of mine, here are the main issues with the typical 60% ANSI layout:


With that out of the way, here is the proposed design that should address all of the issues mentioned:

(https://i.imgur.com/jGFXkpq.png)

(Again, don't pay too much attention to the actual bindings, it's mainly about the physical layout)

Remarks:

I will definitely build a board with this design later this year and update this post (or make a new one). I already got all the components (tools, controller, switches, keycaps for this exact layout, harvested TrackPoint), though am still undecided on how to manufacture a fitting board and case.

Feel free to leave feedback on the design. :)

Aydo


Title: Re: A thumb-friendly, stab-free 60% layout
Post by: parablol on Mon, 15 February 2021, 08:27:10
This looks like a step in the right direction. I like the tighter bottom row, thumb-accessible function keys, and minimization of finicky stabilizers.
Title: Re: A thumb-friendly, stab-free 60% layout
Post by: 4sStylZ on Mon, 15 February 2021, 10:45:52
Hi,

Just want to say that I love your efforts for disabled people that don't have Palm on their hands !

Thank you !











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Title: Re: A thumb-friendly, stab-free 60% layout
Post by: Krunchy on Mon, 15 February 2021, 12:52:59
The more I look at this layout, the more it makes sense and the more I like it.  Having to do wild pinky gymnastics is never fun and wears out my hands pretty quickly.  The only thing that jumps out at me is that based on where the shiny spots on my spacebar are, I can tell I'm always pushing it off-center enough that I would be hitting Fn more often than not on this layout.  I tried forcing myself to push only the center of the spacebar and found it less comfortable than just letting my thumbs press 'where they lie' which still doesn't require the full 6u spacebar.  I have to imagine I'm not the only one who pushes the spacebar further off-center.  What would you think about having two 1.5u or 1.75u spacebars side by side in the center, eliminating two Fn keys but still avoiding a stab, and then replace one of the two Win keys with Fn instead?