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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: LifeZ on Fri, 26 February 2021, 07:42:19
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Hello Everyone.
Im LZ from S.Korea
Phase is
only a few design and name changes on the top case have been changed.
PCB color change.(Black)
Add PC type.
https://imgur.com/nmhcgdv
https://imgur.com/ndD1VGb
This will be ONLY for international buyers. (International shipping)
This will be ONLY for international buyers. (International shipping)
This will be ONLY for international buyers. (International shipping)
Note.
Round 1 : EP.coating version
56 set / FCFS
(Aluminum kit 50 + Polycarbonate kit 6 )
sample colors
https://imgur.com/a/WUyCTLt
[Rubber mount Tech]
https://imgur.com/a/zxG1iSU
[Assembly PIC]
https://imgur.com/a/DCTH5hX
[Supported Layouts]
-Ansi only (Alps support)
https://imgur.com/xZ1B25a
[Spec.]
- 7 deg angled
- Weight plate : Stainless steel (without for PC type)
- Switch plate (MX or Alps)
-. MX 1.5mm : Aluminum,Stainless steel, Polycarbonate, Carbon
-. Alps 1.2mm : only Stainless steel
- PCB : only soldered, Supported by QMK, VIA / USB Type-C (Black, Rev2.0)
- LZ Bag (Similar to tx bag)
- Switch plate mount : Rubber mount Technology.
( https://imgur.com/a/zxG1iSU )
#. Aluminum kit (Top Aluminum, Bottom Aluminum - with STS weight plate) => FCFS 50 unit
#. Polycarbonate kit (Top Aluminum, Bottom PC - without STS weight plate) => FCFS 6 unit
(PC Version : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103049.msg3001614#msg3001614)
[Color option]
- Case : Natural White, Metalic Silver(Pearl), Deep Navy(Pearl) - EL.coating
- Switch Plate : Alu (Black, Silver, Red) - Anodized / PC(Transparency), Carbon(Natural)
[Price]
-. Aluminum kit : $544
-. PC kit : $512
-. Kit includes
1. 1x Case(Top+Bottom)
2. 1x STS Weight plate (without for PC type)
3. 1x Switch plate
4. 1x PCB
5. 1x LZ BAG
6. 1x Screws, Grommets, Bumpons
-. Extra parts
1. PCB : $57
2. MX Switch plate : $44 ~ $68
3. Alps Switch plate : $44 (Only STS)
3. PCB Mount Cherry Genuine Stabilizer(1kit) :$7/set(2x-5ea)
4. MX Switch films : $6/pack(form TX Keyboard)
5. Acrylic wrist rest (Black / White) : $9
https://imgur.com/jV1xd7t
Limit 2 per person
Limit 2 per person
Not including Paypal fee & Shipping cost
Deadline for order/payment: The group buy will end as soon as the QTY is met, would appreciate if I can receive the payment asap.
Lead n shipping time
After all payments are completed
: Round 1 = 3~4 months
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[Shipping]
Different depending on Order Option.
The final price is confirmed on your order.
Default 1 set(Box) of weights : about 4.7kg
DHL express shipping Price (1set) with Tracking number
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Launch Date：2021.03.01 (Korea time 14:00)
March 1 is a meaningful day in Korea.
(It is one of the five national holidays established in 1919 to solidify
the unity of the people by inheriting the spirit of independence of the March 1st Movement
and to cultivate the patriotism of the people.)
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Order form
https://forms.gle/aThs84QUR13vQvzz8
Order Confirm
::::: not yet :::::
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Schedule
Order Deadline : ~5. March 2021 or FCFS
Order Confirm & Edit Deadline : ~8. March 2021
Send invoice : ~12. March 2021
Payment Deadline : ~20. March 2021
Shipping : TBD
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Production : Lead time is estimated to be 3 ~ 4 months
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Notes:
If you want to make changes to the order, please PM me lifezone2 (at) gmail
** E-mail title : Phase and please write your name in the mail.**
Invoices will be sent through Paypal, there will be Paypal fees added to the price.
Email me if you need a split invoice.
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Thanks & Regards
LZ
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im stupid
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Looks clean. Count me in for one.
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By international do you mean non-USA residents, or do you mean USA residents can get in because you are from S. Korea? :confused:
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I’m ready!
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Very excited about this! Hopefully I can snag one.
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There is no way I am going to be able to get one of those PC feelsbad :(
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i'll have one pc version please
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I realize this is based on the Physix and I should probably know the answer, but what is the ergo tilt here? Still 12 degrees?
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PC reference is my board nice ;D
Don't miss out on this one people. This mounting method is poggers
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(https://i.imgflip.com/4zm1b9.jpg)
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
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its LZ, im in
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
LZ buys have always been 50-70 boards, since QCing more than that on your own is a massive pain, and one of the main blocks to running a large GB
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
LZ buys have always been 50-70 boards, since QCing more than that on your own is a massive pain and one of the main blocks to running a large GB
Agreed tbh. I'd rather have a smaller chance at winning one, but get a better QA output, not to mention a shorter lead time
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So to confirm, FR4 plates aren’t an option?
That’s my favorite plate material on the PhysiX, so a bit surprised.
I guess CF and PC are decent. :)
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
LZ buys have always been 50-70 boards, since QCing more than that on your own is a massive pain, and one of the main blocks to running a large GB
I think the LZ Physix was pretty large. Maybe around 200 units.
I suspect it's because TX is helping LZ with manufacturing and/or QC since my LZ Physix shipped from TX.
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By international do you mean non-USA residents, or do you mean USA residents can get in because you are from S. Korea? :confused:
Same question
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
LZ buys have always been 50-70 boards, since QCing more than that on your own is a massive pain, and one of the main blocks to running a large GB
I think the LZ Physix was pretty large. Maybe around 200 units.
I suspect it's because TX is helping LZ with manufacturing and/or QC since my LZ Physix shipped from TX.
Funny story - that was the plan for Physix as well, but thanks to the sudden surge in interest for ergo boards he went to sleep and woke up to 200+ orders the following morning, so he had to end the GB early, split it into batches and get some help with fulfillment.
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Hope LZ will have another good night sleep this time around. :cool:
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By international do you mean non-USA residents, or do you mean USA residents can get in because you are from S. Korea? :confused:
It means International shipping
There is no word that means America anywhere~
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I realize this is based on the Physix and I should probably know the answer, but what is the ergo tilt here? Still 12 degrees?
same pcb, layout
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So to confirm, FR4 plates aren’t an option?
That’s my favorite plate material on the PhysiX, so a bit surprised.
I guess CF and PC are decent. :)
Add FR4 BLACK as an option.
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
LZ buys have always been 50-70 boards, since QCing more than that on your own is a massive pain and one of the main blocks to running a large GB
Agreed tbh. I'd rather have a smaller chance at winning one, but get a better QA output, not to mention a shorter lead time
Many quantities are subject to several variables.
Most of my productions are done myself in Korea.
(Excluding accessories such as bags, films, and stabilizers)
I prefer less than 100 because sometimes it requires a long working period.
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56 set / FCFS
Uhm, okay.
LZ buys have always been 50-70 boards, since QCing more than that on your own is a massive pain, and one of the main blocks to running a large GB
I think the LZ Physix was pretty large. Maybe around 200 units.
I suspect it's because TX is helping LZ with manufacturing and/or QC since my LZ Physix shipped from TX.
TX is a good partner.
Bags, accessories(Films, Bumpons, cable) and delivery services are supported by TX.
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Are the plates and PCB's compatible with with Physix?
I'd love a FR4 plate for mine...
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By international do you mean non-USA residents, or do you mean USA residents can get in because you are from S. Korea? :confused:
It means International shipping
There is no word that means America anywhere~
So what country is excluded?
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By international do you mean non-USA residents, or do you mean USA residents can get in because you are from S. Korea? :confused:
It means International shipping
There is no word that means America anywhere~
So what country is excluded?
I'm pretty sure it's S. Korea or maybe both Koreas.
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Are there any pics of the EL.coating samples/prototypes? really curious how the colors look like.
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GLWB LZ. Still hoping for some classic TKLs to make a return :)
I wish my smooth brane didn't do stuff like hit Y with my left index finger. Impossible to unlearn at this point :D
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I have owned a Police. Those 3 keys are located in leftside of TAB, that makes me something wrongly press them as I was used with HHKB layout. Now, I want to try LZ Phase :)
Hope I can grab it.
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im stupid
this but unironically, gl with buy looks interesting
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Are there any pics of the EL.coating samples/prototypes? really curious how the colors look like.
sample colors
https://imgur.com/a/WUyCTLt
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I was originally going to join this but just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0) about the issues with the Physix. Have these issues been resolved? More pictures would also be helpful.
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By international do you mean non-USA residents, or do you mean USA residents can get in because you are from S. Korea? :confused:
It means International shipping
There is no word that means America anywhere~
So what country is excluded?
OP is from South Korea, he means everywhere but South Korea.
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I was originally going to join this but just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0) about the issues with the Physix. Have these issues been resolved? More pictures would also be helpful.
IMO only valid concerns here are those 2 plate types, which I would agree. However just get CF or FR4 plate instead, which I can confirm are perfect.
Other valid concern is the weight.... also fixable, don't use it, which I don't. (And PC doesnt have weight anyway)
All the other stuff just seems nitpicking / preferences. As far as the price.... this is made in Korea and from a reputable designer, you can decide if that's worth it for you.
And let's not forget this mounting system is really one of the best ever.
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I was originally going to join this but just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0) about the issues with the Physix. Have these issues been resolved? More pictures would also be helpful.
IMO only valid concerns here are those 2 plate types, which I would agree. However just get CF or FR4 plate instead, which I can confirm are perfect.
Other valid concern is the weight.... also fixable, don't use it, which I don't. (And PC doesnt have weight anyway)
All the other stuff just seems nitpicking / preferences. As far as the price.... this is made in Korea and from a reputable designer, you can decide if that's worth it for you.
And let's not forget this mounting system is really one of the best ever.
I use this thing everyday and share these sentiments. Would add the wrist rest was a little cheap looking but it was not expensive. I don’t think anyone should be afraid to purchase.
Note I’m not saying this board is Jesus in keyboard form.
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I was originally going to join this but just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0) about the issues with the Physix. Have these issues been resolved? More pictures would also be helpful.
IMO only valid concerns here are those 2 plate types, which I would agree. However just get CF or FR4 plate instead, which I can confirm are perfect.
Other valid concern is the weight.... also fixable, don't use it, which I don't. (And PC doesnt have weight anyway)
All the other stuff just seems nitpicking / preferences. As far as the price.... this is made in Korea and from a reputable designer, you can decide if that's worth it for you.
And let's not forget this mounting system is really one of the best ever.
for the price, i think they are all valid concerns. weird that they just posted that today and not at the end of the physix gb
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I was originally going to join this but just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOutyrtaZI0) about the issues with the Physix. Have these issues been resolved? More pictures would also be helpful.
IMO only valid concerns here are those 2 plate types, which I would agree. However just get CF or FR4 plate instead, which I can confirm are perfect.
Other valid concern is the weight.... also fixable, don't use it, which I don't. (And PC doesnt have weight anyway)
All the other stuff just seems nitpicking / preferences. As far as the price.... this is made in Korea and from a reputable designer, you can decide if that's worth it for you.
And let's not forget this mounting system is really one of the best ever.
for the price, i think they are all valid concerns. weird that they just posted that today and not at the end of the physix gb
I doubt he has any insidious intent behind it :) Video wouldn't have mattered after the GB, since it is all done at that stage, there are no returns and people can try themselves. But now LZ is essentially selling the same board again, so he probably ended up doing the video now, to warn people about the issues he had.
I also used the board, and like any board, it is usable. But with shipping, extras etc. which I assume most people buy, price goes around 700$. As mentioned, to get objectively better sound, you can remove the sts weight, but then you basically paid for garbage sts part that you won't use. Why not remove the weight and make the price cheaper (and don't forget that this board is ~50$ more expensive than Physix).
LZ has some great boards (LZ MP is one of my favorite board of all time, and still looking to get it one day :D), but I don't think that should be a free pass thing, similarly being made in Korea. For example, this board shorting with sts weight if you remove the cover from weight, is a design flaw.
I am not going to get into the mounting/feel, as that is something very subjective.
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I feel like there’s some list that exists with all the errors this board has and it’s 2 items long. People keep screaming to stop ignoring this list (insert spider man pointing at spider man meme), but I don’t think anyone disagrees with the list.
Look, feel and sound are subjective. I like it, it feels good on the hole. I can count the boards I’ve received that didn’t have issues with zero fingers.
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is the form opened yet?
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not opened yet?
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not opened?
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form opened few minutes late, submmited, hopefully I can get one
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Deleted
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How to edit the form?
the main post says to email him for changes, but lul we should wait to see if we got in first.
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Thank you to everyone who has been with us.
Now fall into a deep sleep. ;)
Please confirm your order.
(The link is for temporary order confirmation. It will be deleted after 2 days.)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qzwN_QRxJDA9aQJnyusWbjKHn-jxkuNhSfzFV1qUiyo/edit?usp=sharing
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Two unusual orders are canceled. :'(
Additional orders for the remaining quantity will be held on March 2nd at 21:00 (korea time).
If there is no pc version left, it can be modified to alu version.
If you want to modify your order, please send an e-mail to the form below. (not a GH pm.)
mail title: Phase, user name
old order:
case color: Deep Navy(PC kit)
switch plate: Alu(black)
.. and add order
new order:
case color: Metalic Silver(Alu kit)
switch plate: Alu(Red)
add: pcb x1
add: switch plate (CF)
Kind Regard
LZ
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Thank you to everyone who has been with us.
Now fall into a deep sleep. ;)
Please confirm your order.
(The link is for temporary order confirmation. It will be deleted after 2 days.)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qzwN_QRxJDA9aQJnyusWbjKHn-jxkuNhSfzFV1qUiyo/edit?usp=sharing
and
Two unusual orders are canceled. :'(
Additional orders for the remaining quantity will be held on March 2nd at 21:00 (korea time).
If there is no pc version left, it can be modified to alu version.
If you want to modify your order, please send an e-mail to the form below. (not a GH pm.)
mail title: Phase, user name
old order:
case color: Deep Navy(PC kit)
switch plate: Alu(black)
.. and add order
new order:
case color: Metalic Silver(Alu kit)
switch plate: Alu(Red)
add: pcb x1
add: switch plate (CF)
Kind Regard
LZ
Please don't use our real names
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How do you send the email to the google sheet? I can't seem to find either the email, or a button that is to send an email for a change.
Thank you
(edit) just found it
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mb bad post.
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$544 for a keyboard has less than 12 points or less than 3mm on the surface exposed are considered as normal condition.. hm.. and this not even a large GB. What a massive pain at QCing!
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How do you send the email to the google sheet? I can't seem to find either the email, or a button that is to send an email for a change.
Thank you
(edit) just found it
hey man is lifezone2@gmail.com? thanks
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will it have the same problem of switches touching the weight and actuating a few keys at the same time and the other problems or were they fixed for phase ?
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I thought the Physix was a bit underwhelming as a board, especially given the price. I had a lot of the same complaints as JYMV, especially with the cheap design of the internal weight. I ended up just keeping the plastic wrap on it, but that felt like such a compromise for a board that I paid nearly $700 shipped.
I also didn't find the mounting system particularly good or bad. Someone could have told me it was top mounted and I would have believed them.
Basically, the board is "fine", but for $700, I expected more than "fine".
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5 slot.
https://forms.gle/iZWZf6J1zvJUQzAKA
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will it have the same problem of switches touching the weight and actuating a few keys at the same time and the other problems or were they fixed for phase ?
I reviewed the issues raised.
There are two phenomena where multiple keys are entered together.
It is caused by a short of the main MCU and a short of the switch leg.
If there is no problem with the main MCU, it is very likely a switch problem.
There are many types of switches.
Which switch did you put together?
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I thought the Physix was a bit underwhelming as a board, especially given the price. I had a lot of the same complaints as JYMV, especially with the cheap design of the internal weight. I ended up just keeping the plastic wrap on it, but that felt like such a compromise for a board that I paid nearly $700 shipped.
I also didn't find the mounting system particularly good or bad. Someone could have told me it was top mounted and I would have believed them.
Basically, the board is "fine", but for $700, I expected more than "fine".
I removed the internal weight right after assembling. It is the worst design in the Physics and I don't think that LZ should keep it in Phase.
The flat surface of the internal weight provide a lot of resonance which make Physics sound much worse compared to other LZ boards.
Anyway, after replacing the weight with a sound dampened foam, I am quite happy with the result.
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I did the same actually. Physix is my favorite keeb for daily use and I've never missed the internal weight. Sounds great with 2mm foam.
Maybe the weight for the Phase should be thinner, even if just at the center row where switches are more likely to touch the weight given flex in the plate.
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Order Confirm & Edit Deadline : ~8. March 2021
Order list release
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjUgfsua4eKMouqy-5RniPharoJakIM6hpkelPDUrI8/edit?usp=sharing
If there is no pc kit left, it can be modified to alu kit.(or cancel)
If you want to modify your order, please send an e-mail to the form below. (not a GH pm.)
mail title: Phase, user name (order no.)
old order:
case color: Deep Navy(PC kit)
switch plate: Alu(black)
.. and add order
new order:
case color: Metalic Silver(Alu kit)
switch plate: Alu(Red)
add: pcb x1
add: switch plate (CF)
and
I made a small playground.
Discord : https://discord.gg/B8HbTa9ztj
(edit)
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Discord link expired.
Is there a new invite link?
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Discord link expired.
Is there a new invite link?
Discord : https://discord.gg/uyemgmVej4
(edit)
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Discord link expired.
Is there a new invite link?
Discord : https://discord.gg/B8HbTa9ztj
(edit)
still invalid though :(
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Hey LZ,
Any updates on the run? Feels like we should be approaching delivery soon.
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Hey LZ,
Any updates on the run? Feels like we should be approaching delivery soon.
Latest update + some pictures from the discord.
(https://i.imgur.com/8uQn1B3.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788945716894629888/861543735837458462/20210703_132118.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788945716894629888/861543736117559307/20210703_132128.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788945716894629888/861543736357421076/20210703_132143.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788945716894629888/861543736626249728/20210703_132146.jpg)
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Hey LZ,
Any updates on the run? Feels like we should be approaching delivery soon.
Latest update + some pictures from the discord.
Cheers
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#. Change the defult inner plate (STS to ALU)
--> Included in all alu kit orders (except pc kits).
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Add a replacement test sample plate (Brass,Finshed Electroless Nickel Plating)
This is for a typing test, and the finish is not good.
Brass typing feels good (extremely personal).
Total inner plate 2 type (Alu, Brass)
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Shipping update.
We have updated the first shipping in the order list.
1st shiped : 8/24 (Tuesday)
And Vietnam is on lockdown, so all deliveries are suspended for the time being. After the suspension is lifted, we start shipping.
Expected after September 6
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Extra kits will be sold after all shipments are complete. A and B
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my led indicators on the right for caps lock and scroll lock dosen't seem to light up, do I need to do something to set it up ?
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my led indicators on the right for caps lock and scroll lock dosen't seem to light up, do I need to do something to set it up ?
Did you try soldering the leds with the legs the other way around?
I did this with my PhysiX and it did the charm.
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my led indicators on the right for caps lock and scroll lock dosen't seem to light up, do I need to do something to set it up ?
Did you try soldering the leds with the legs the other way around?
I did this with my PhysiX and it did the charm.
This is why I always just solder in sip sockets. That and swapping out colors.
FYI for led:
(+) = long leg
(-) = short leg
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This is why I always just solder in sip sockets. That and swapping out colors.
huh. Not sure why but I've never considered sip sockets for LEDs. That's a big brain move
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can anyone provide me an invite link to the discord?
Also where can I find the shipping list?
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can anyone provide me an invite link to the discord?
Also where can I find the shipping list?
Update shipping status here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zjUgfsua4eKMouqy-5RniPharoJakIM6hpkelPDUrI8/edit#gid=0
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my led indicators on the right for caps lock and scroll lock dosen't seem to light up, do I need to do something to set it up ?
Did you try soldering the leds with the legs the other way around?
I did this with my PhysiX and it did the charm.
yes, you are right. there are circle and square pads for different legs on the pcb. thanks! learnt to test the led with the pads before soldering, there is also led cutouts on the top shell so i used 2 3mm led and it fits perfectly
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All last shipments have departed.
There was a little delay. Thank you for waiting. :cool:
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Can't wait to see on of these in person!