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Title: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
Post by: Snotburger on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:01:37
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Introducing: GMK Orochi, a keycap set based on the Japanese legend of an eight-headed, eight-tailed serpent dragon.



(https://i.imgur.com/JufrT7A.png)

A woodblock print by 月岡 芳年 was used as inspiration. It depicts Yamata-no-Orochi, the dragon, being slain by the banished god Susano-o.





Colours


(https://i.imgur.com/eJAJLiN.png)


GMK WS1: Alphas, Accent Legends, Mods Legends
GMK RO1: Accent
Pantone 7449 C: Mods, Alpha Legends




Kits

Keep in mind that these kits are subject to change, depending on feedback.

Base Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/2Oq1TVN.png)

Alternate Alphas Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/6w04ijh.png)

Novelties Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/IQQabMw.png)

40% Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/VRMg0o4.png)

Spacebars Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/ak2lvDl.png)


Renders

RAMA U80

(https://i.imgur.com/Sx5PEzk.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/PbEEudH.png)

Nemui by Bachoo

(https://i.imgur.com/9RGYDlX.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/dFSqOhf.png)

Maja by Vulcan

(https://i.imgur.com/Qm2K1Ht.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/zRzBa4I.png)




Vendors

OCE: SwitchKeys
CA: DESK[H]ERO
SEA: iLumbkb
UK: proto[Typist]
KO: Swagkeys
US: TBD
EU: TBD



To-do list

- Get community feedback, modify kits accordingly

- Revamp Novelties

- Decide other products (deskmats, RAMA, cable?)

- Establish vendors :thumb:

- Get pricing

- Make it to GB ;D




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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: Stickk on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:02:18
Nice set, who's Stick
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: Snotburger on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:02:47
16 March 2021
- Added proto[Typist] as Vendor for UK
- Added Swagkeys as Vendor for KO

15 March 2021
- Added iLumbkb as Vendor for SEA

Happy to have iLumbkb as our vendor for SEA! Also novelties update coming soon (TM)

12 March 2021
- Minor changes to base kit
- Added DeskHero as Vendor for CA

Just some minor changes, glad to have DeskHero as a vendor as well :thumb:

10 March 2021
Big (and hopefully last) update on kitting and vendors:

- Removed GMK CR as Alpha Legends Colour
- Changed Alpha Legends Colour to Pantone 7449 C
- Removed one of the novelties
- Added Hiragana Sublegends to base kit
- Added 40s Kit
- Updated Spacebars Kit
- Added Alternate Alphas Kit
- Added SwitchKeys as vendor for OCE

Happy to take on SwitchKeys as a vendor for the OCE region, they've been helping out with the set as well, I can't thank them enough.

Took in some of the feedback like swapping the alpha legend colour with the mod colour to save cost, and adding hiragana sublegends.

I also added a 40s and an Alternate Alphas Kit with just the mod colour, and I'm eager to get feedback on those as well.

Again, appreciation for any comments, keep them coming :thumb:

8 March 2021
Hey guys, a quick update to the IC:
- Moved B from Spacebars to Base
- Changed Print, Scroll and Pause to mod colours
- Removed 1.75u Backspace
- Changed R3 pipe to alpha colors
- Removed mod colour R1 pipe
- Added mod colour arrows
- Added 1.5u Supers
- Added F13 Key

Just did these because I wanted to iron out the kitting errors I made so that I can focus more on collabs, novelties etc.

Thanks to all of the suggestions and support, whether praise or criticism, everything is appreciated!

I didn't really make it clear but if you're down for a collab just DM me on Discord: Snotburger#0001.



(https://i.imgur.com/LWmo15d.png)

Was the captcha that I got for this post lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: SirTimmyTimbit on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:15:31
wow! So beautiful 😍

Love the Novelties! Great work!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: bigern302 on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:21:50
It’s less good plum. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: AJPlus on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:33:08
These are nice always a fan of Japanese art inspired caps
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: JumpStream on Sun, 07 March 2021, 05:16:20
I'm a sucker for anything Japanese, glwic

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: Izeri on Sun, 07 March 2021, 05:33:06
Almost based Shinobu poster, you haven't included non accented arrows anywhere and Print|Scroll|Pause is wrong color. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: pupper125 on Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:05:47
Okay so a few things to consider here regarding kitting:
-First off you say that 40s will not be supported, but in your base kit you have a 1.75u backspace, this is a key used in 40s support.
-A 1.5u super key would be appreciated for 65 layouts that use a 1.5u super.
-Accent arrows are forced, leaving you with no option for mod arrows, but every other accent key has the mod equivalent.
-R3 pipe being in mod is a weird choice, its typically an alpha key.
-Consider moving B into base for easier alice compat, and to reduce the number of colours in your spacebar kit.
-R1 1u pipe doesnt need to be mod either, its standard to do it in alpha.


Regarding IC Formatting, you currently have the IC Form in 2 locations, once at the very top, and once at the very bottom, which looks a little odd, not sure if that's intentional. Its also typically standard practice to credit the designers behind the boards that you use in renders, just to show appreciation for their work. Hopefully some of this comes in handy when working on this set, because it definitely has potential!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: TyPo.mk on Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:41:25
While I agree with the above points, I think pupper is nitpicking your renders a bit so I wouldn’t worry about it too much. I will second the second B in base kit because it will make your bars kit appreciably cheaper while not making your base price change much.

Also would it be possible to get the dragon head novelty or a version of it onto a key that isn’t ISO enter? It is kind of a shame that imo the coolest novelty and the one that represents the theme the best is in ISO only...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: nvh2092 on Sun, 07 March 2021, 06:43:00
Some kitting errors need to be fixed:
- Print, Scroll and Pause should be in mod color.
- R3 1u "\|" key should be in alpha color.
- Lack of mod color arrow keys.
- You've already had a 1.75u backspace in base kit, if you add a R3 1.25u tab key plus a R3 1.5u enter key, you can cover the majority of 40s layouts.
- And a F13 in base please.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: chat and team on Sun, 07 March 2021, 12:05:26
weeb set ==
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 07 March 2021, 12:12:56
I hate to be that guy, but NE sub legends avail?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sun, 07 March 2021, 12:26:09
Looks good, can you please add the following into the base kit?

mod-colored: F13, Print, Scroll, Pause, Arrows
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: Auracity on Sun, 07 March 2021, 13:47:13
r1 1u mod pipe gg
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi
Post by: LeCado on Sun, 07 March 2021, 13:50:32
Looks very cool! The colour scheme is nice and the novelties are really cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: Snotburger on Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:18:13
8 March 2021
Hey guys, a quick update to the IC:
- Moved B from Spacebars to Base
- Changed Print, Scroll and Pause to mod colours
- Removed 1.75u Backspace
- Changed R3 pipe to alpha colors
- Removed mod colour R1 pipe
- Added mod colour arrows
- Added 1.5u Supers
- Added F13 Key

Just did these because I wanted to iron out the kitting errors I made so that I can focus more on collabs, novelties etc.

Thanks to all of the suggestions and support, whether praise or criticism, everything is appreciated!

I didn't really make it clear but if you're down for a collab just DM me on Discord: Snotburger#0001.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:21:37
Appreciate all the wonderful additions you have made to the base kit. Love the colors and the theme.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: nvh2092 on Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:23:45
Quote from: Snotburger on Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:18:13
8 March 2021
Hey guys, a quick update to the IC:
- Moved B from Spacebars to Base
- Changed Print, Scroll and Pause to mod colours
- Removed 1.75u Backspace
- Changed R3 pipe to alpha colors
- Removed mod colour R1 pipe
- Added mod colour arrows
- Added 1.5u Supers
- Added F13 Key

Just did these because I wanted to iron out the kitting errors I made so that I can focus more on collabs, novelties etc.

Thanks to all of the suggestions and support, whether praise or criticism, everything is appreciated!

I didn't really make it clear but if you're down for a collab just DM me on Discord: Snotburger#0001.
I think that follow the color rules in the F-row, F13 should be in mod color. Also, have you tried mod color for alpha legends? This will reduce to 3 colors and surely will reduce the final price of the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: Snotburger on Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:41:10
Whoops, that's my bad. It should be fixed now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: Rpmorrison10 on Sun, 07 March 2021, 16:08:23
instead of removing the 1.75 backspace, why don't you just add the other 2 keys (r3 1.25 tab, and r3 1.5 enter) to help out a portion of the community? Those 3 keys might raise your cost by $1 but will get more people to buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: psxndc on Sun, 07 March 2021, 23:20:36
Quote from: Snotburger on Sun, 07 March 2021, 03:01:37
40s will not be supported.

I say this not to be "wah wah *crying*", you're certainly entitled to run this how you want. But if I didn't say anything, you'd never have the feedback: upfront lack of 40s support is why I'm not going to get the set.

GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - Minor Updates to Kits
Post by: gex on Mon, 08 March 2021, 10:13:30
i'd buy this with with an ortho kit in an instant
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New Kits and Vendor!
Post by: Snotburger on Tue, 09 March 2021, 23:39:55
Big (and hopefully last) update on kitting and vendors:

- Removed GMK CR as Alpha Legends Colour
- Changed Alpha Legends Colour to Pantone 7449 C
- Removed one of the novelties
- Added Hiragana Sublegends to base kit
- Added 40s Kit
- Updated Spacebars Kit
- Added Alternate Alphas Kit
- Added SwitchKeys as vendor for OCE

Happy to take on SwitchKeys as a vendor for the OCE region, they've been helping out with the set as well, I can't thank them enough.

Took in some of the feedback like swapping the alpha legend colour with the mod colour to save cost, and adding hiragana sublegends.

I also added a 40s and an Alternate Alphas Kit with just the mod colour, and I'm eager to get feedback on those as well.

Again, appreciation for any comments, keep them coming :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: Snotburger on Fri, 12 March 2021, 05:05:25
12 March 2021

- Minor changes to base kit
- Added DeskHero as Vendor for CA

Just some minor changes, glad to have DeskHero as a vendor as well :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: vladimir108 on Fri, 12 March 2021, 13:23:13
Hello, in thread "GMK Beta" was published update of basic Latin/Hiragana GMK keycaps from Zambumon:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.msg3009840#msg3009840 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108290.msg3009840#msg3009840)
Zambumon_GMK_Hiragana_Latin_RFC.pdf  https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108290.0;attach=261369 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108290.0;attach=261369)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: pntm2006 on Sat, 13 March 2021, 02:00:18
My input would be to make the alternate alpha kit the base kit and the white alphas the alternate. Give it a darker red esc, enter and spacebar and it would look amazing in my opinion.
 
Or please provide an option of the base kit with the alternate alphas if you don't want to change anything from the current base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: tunb on Sat, 13 March 2021, 09:13:08
look amazing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 13 March 2021, 18:40:23
I don't plan on buying for the record but what is that 40s kit? no 1u r2 backspace and no 1u tab of either row for ortho support, despite having the lower raise and 2u space-bar?

edit: wait so just the lower not the raise too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sat, 13 March 2021, 20:08:06
Does the Alternate Alphas Kit have support to cover the function row keys too? F1-F4, F9-F12
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New CA Vendor
Post by: Snotburger on Mon, 15 March 2021, 01:09:47
15 March 2021

- Added iLumbkb as Vendor for SEA

Happy to have iLumbkb as our vendor for SEA! Also novelties update coming soon (TM)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New Vendors
Post by: Snotburger on Tue, 16 March 2021, 01:09:30
16 March 2021

- Added proto[Typist] as Vendor for UK
- Added Swagkeys as Vendor for KO
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Orochi - New Vendors
Post by: Snotburger on Thu, 15 April 2021, 04:32:40
Regarding GMK Orochi

I'll keep this short, but basically I'm going to be taking a break from this project. I don't know how long it will be for, or if it will be temporary at all. For the record, I did have other changes planned before group buy such as switching from Pantone to RAL, updating novelties, redoing the 40s kit, adding other vendors and others.

I'm leaving entirely because of personal reasons. To be clear, I never expected to make it this far to begin with and I would consider this to be a great learning experience.

Thank you
Title: Re: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
Post by: YoungTerror on Thu, 15 April 2021, 13:06:00
GL and hope to see you back soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 15 April 2021, 13:45:04
Hope all is well! Lookin forward to your return.
Title: Re: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
Post by: chonkbabu on Fri, 03 December 2021, 07:23:07
Hey man just stumbled upon this set and fell in love with it, hope to see you back soon! Best of luck and hope all is well.
Title: Re: [IC] Regarding GMK Orochi
Post by: keebsalad on Sun, 23 January 2022, 08:57:49
I'm not a fan of purple sets, but I absolutely love this one. looking forward for your comeback too! you did such a great job!