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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Naweo on Wed, 10 March 2021, 17:32:05
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Hey there. To save time and effort, I cloned an SSD to a new SSD (and later had this issue so I used an imaged backup too) - and now experience a weird thing where after 48 hours, my PC randomly shuts down 75% of programs I open. Restart does not help, and even eventviewer freezes and crashes immediately.
I tried to do an image of my backup as well to get system up and running, but 48 hours in, same problem.
How do I fix?
I tried windows 10 troubleahooter, and SFC scan said it found problems but after fix, same problem persists. A USB with windows 10 repair is not accessible for some reasons, says "startup repair could not repair your PC"
I have yet to try:
- safemode + eventviewer
Will update.
Edit: I can not access msconfig. The moment it starts, ot freezes, then crashes after 10 seconds.
I managed to boot into safe mode. Event viewer works. What kind of error am I looking for?
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This almost sounds like a hardware issue or malware that was waiting on restart to attack.
A bad cable or memory issue could wreck your image/clone. If you didn't do it before, try again but enable verify on the image/clone. Imaging and cloning don't always work and all your faith gets put into them working and limits what you can do when there is a problem, just another reason I hate them. They tend to completely work or just completely fall flat on their face.
As for Event viewer, I'll be honest, it rarely helps identify issues and in this case it may just be full of so much you won't be able to sort through it. Try clearing it, then crashing something to try and narrow down the problem.
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So you say image the clone, but this time verify the image?
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It works now after booting to safe mode and back. Is there any way I can check for issues?
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if you boot with the old SSD is your pc ok?
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Unfortuantely its in another country haha, but yes, old SSD never had problems.
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So you say image the clone, but this time verify the image?
I meant to redo either the image you started from or the clone process.
Not sure why it would clean up after a safe mode (permissions problem maybe), but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen that. Just beware if you get into safe mode using power off or reset to force it to do so, MS designed it this way to make the system boot faster but this also is a great way to destroy SSDs (particularly older ones).
Glad you got it working.
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Almost sounding like a faulty driver causing the issue, ran into this earlier this week with my Mother-in-Law's laptop. What is the error code the crash screen is giving you?
Normally when you install a new SSD/Drive into a system it is best to just do a fresh image install so issues like this do not occur (more than likely Windows is trying to pull a driver for the drive and is conflicting with the one on the current image or another driver was awaiting restart to complete a background update and you swapping the drive caused a conflict).
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cloned properly this shouldn't happen.
what clone software did use ?
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Dollars to doughnuts it has something to with disk partitioning.
I bet your old disk was partitioned as MBR and your clone as GPT or vice versa.
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Issue happened again after 48 hours.
I used macrium reflect foe cloning.
I could possibly have parititiones my image wrongly... I will try to boot into safe mode again and see if it gives me another 48 hours.
Otherwise I need to properly make a clone when I can.
I do not know what error code I get. It judt crashes. How can I see it? Event viewer?
In eventviewer i find:
"VVS
Volume Shadow Copy Service informarion: The com server with 9964-00c04fbbb345 and name CEventSystem accnot be started. Shutdown is in progress"
And all programs refusing to start:
"Faulting application name brave.exe, faulting module name: GTII-OSD64.dll
Exception code: 0xc0000005"
Also fault on ntdll.dll
Kernelbase.dll
Rebooting into safe mode via shift+click on restart allows me to access event viewer. However, this time, booting into normal wondows did not work. Issue persists.
Edit:
SFC /SCANNOW found corrupt files and replaced them. No luck so far though.
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Try re-cloning. and i believe there's a checksum in macrium though I've never myself used it.
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Can I use the same image? The disk I used to clone is unfortunately not in this country.
Anything specific I need to check when cloning?
Edit: my system event log is also full of DCOM error 1084 errors
I already restore image fromxmy current clone/image once, and it worked, but I had problems after 2 days again
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Update: remove VGA driver and reinstall worked... for now...
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While you are in start backing up data.
Most stuff is obviously in documents, music and such.
Google Chrome and Chrome based browsers are in c:/user/app data/local/ This is only visible if you enable hidden folders, other stuff in here is almost always cache. Most everything else including Firefox is in c:/user/app data/remote/ Which is where it all should be but some companies like to be difficult. As with local this is only visible if you enable hidden folders. Apple litters files in both places and if you only get one it will ignore all of it and just take up even more space. MS Outlook stores things all over and is a massive pain in the a$$ to backup, there are tools to make it easier, I suggest finding one if you need to do this because MS makes it hard on purpose. It's a stupid over complicated pile of steaming garbage (switch to Thunderbird or Gmail).
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Problem arose again after 24 hours. Should I make a new image from OLD SSD, or can I just restore from my clone?
Can I just replace the corrupt system files in system folder myself?
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Your original clone image may be okay, it may not, it may be the restoration that's the issue. Regardless you have to put your trust into an image and hope for the best.
As for copying in the files, it may work, you also may be chasing glitches from now until the next major OS update that reinstalls Windows. You may want to try an OS restore that retains your files.
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Startup repair does not work, so what do you mean OS restore that retains files?
I confirmed that re-installing VGA drivers temporarily fixes the issues.
My PC has crashed the last 2 times before the issue arose.
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System restore has 3 systems
One is rollback
Another is completely wipe and reinstall Windows
A third option is wipe and reinstall but retain your data.
Like this.
https://www.techspot.com/guides/1764-windows-repair-keep-all-your-files-intact/
While this is supposed to retain everything, your mileage may vary.
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Cool, I will try this if issue persists
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it will normally only retain your files and wipe out programs, but sometimes it will end up wiping some files that are in other areas. I would boot to safe mode and backup anything you need to an external - then wipe and do a fresh install.
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Can I back up files even if I have these issues present right now?
Just had a problem again after restart.
Re-installing VGA drivers always fixes it, temporarily.
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Can I back up files even if I have these issues present right now?
If it's just a VGA driver, then probably.
I would keep your image though just in case you need to pull something later.