Can we get other venders except Drop please?
Kind regards,
EU member
is anyone else on the verge of a mental breakdown?i think we all are
SP said no to DSS Handerbate, so du u got approval from Cherry to use this?Hello Guys!Here I come back again with SA Handarbeit+ keyset which is one of the most interesting colorway set.Inspried by Cherry G81-3000HBD OG Handarbeit keyboard.Some guys have been asking Handarbeit set with SA profile after GMK Handarbeit+ R1 GB, and finally SA Handarbeit+ set was designed.I'd like to introduce the SA Handarbeit+.Although SA Handarbeit+ is the same as the colorway of GMK Handarbeit, you can add this to your Handarbeit collection because the profile is different.Manufacturer : Signature PlasticsWhen : To be updated (Expect April 2021)Where : Drop.comKITSAll kits are being almost finalized, but will consider your suggestions before starting the GB.Let me know your opinion!Base : 1-1-2-3-4-3 ProfileShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uw1elSN.png)Horizontal R3 : 3-3-3-3-3 ProfileShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/U3hs3m7.png)Numpad : 1-1-2-3-4-3 ProfileShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YfTrsT2.png)Spacebar : R3 Spacebar and R3/R4 'B' for Alice kayoutShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/UYSjoZi.png)
RENDERSShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/VzaQR6n.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lGHN5fb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cb51cN8.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lazrwjd.png)
Profile Comparison (Base kit vs Horizontal R3)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/azP7ADb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qWlbvxx.png)Enjoy!
Can we get other venders except Drop please?
Kind regards,
EU member
No.
King regards,
Drop
Oh, so this is why you denied permission for SP DSS Hand Work to run, despite the fact that Handarbeit is not an original colorway?
Guess that explains rushing this and GMK R2 out, gotta reestablish your ownership.
Oh, so this is why you denied permission for SP DSS Hand Work to run, despite the fact that Handarbeit is not an original colorway?
Guess that explains rushing this and GMK R2 out, gotta reestablish your ownership.
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I guess if we're allowed to take ownership of colors used on old boards and slap down any projects that I don't have to approve of I hereby claim ownership of Beige and Dolch. I'll leave WoB to Drop and BoW to Dixie just because I'm feeling a bit generous.Can I take ownership of the Olivia colorway? If this ownership works retroactively, I will be cracking down on GMK Cafe to take what's rightfully mine.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eINA8nx_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Here's SP's reasoning for not wanting to run Dss hand work. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110942.0) This convinces me that Coco wasn't willing to provide SP with the facts that Handarbeit was based on an old board to keep the set under his control.
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Here's SP's reasoning for not wanting to run Dss hand work. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110942.0) This convinces me that Coco wasn't willing to provide SP with the facts that Handarbeit was based on an old board to keep the set under his control.
Just a note that this post needs to go to a different subforum:
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Appreciate the diligent community policing of these threads (no sarcasm, I realize it may come across that way). The IC rules have been updated to remove this Drop-specific rule, as the community as a whole has shifted since the rule was implemented.Here's SP's reasoning for not wanting to run Dss hand work. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110942.0) This convinces me that Coco wasn't willing to provide SP with the facts that Handarbeit was based on an old board to keep the set under his control.
I don't see mention of SP's reasoning for not running DSS Handarbeit in that thread, can anyone fill me in on the details? Handarbeit as about as close to public domain as you can get with unique keyset designs... how can any one person possibly claim ownership, aside from perhaps the original Cherry employee that put it together (who I doubt is our affable OP here)?
I don't see mention of SP's reasoning for not running DSS Handarbeit in that thread, can anyone fill me in on the details? Handarbeit as about as close to public domain as you can get with unique keyset designs... how can any one person possibly claim ownership, aside from perhaps the original Cherry employee that put it together (who I doubt is our affable OP here)?
Yea so basically I designed a set using similar colors but all stock SP chips. The colors were similar to original handarbeit and I titled it hand work. It was set to be in the DSS profile which is a popular profile in the 40s community. I tried to contact coco several times to give a heads up that I was using the similar colors. I even went as far as contacting his original vendors to see if they could contact him/her. I had no luck with contacting so I went on and went with getting quotes from SP for the DSS hand work set. Once I submitted everything Melissa from SP got back to me and said they can’t run the set because the original Creator (coco) did not give permission and went out of their way to contact SP to say so. Essentially coco is gatekeeping colors and it seems like bringing this set to SP is a way to completely cut me out or is a cash grab. Either way it seems a little rude. It ultimately led me to completely change the colors and redesign how I was planning on running the set.
I don't see mention of SP's reasoning for not running DSS Handarbeit in that thread, can anyone fill me in on the details? Handarbeit as about as close to public domain as you can get with unique keyset designs... how can any one person possibly claim ownership, aside from perhaps the original Cherry employee that put it together (who I doubt is our affable OP here)?
It's not in that thread, SP's response to BlackHammer getting quotes is the image I attached in my post. Hand Work had more traction and activity through the 40% discord where that was posted.
Senior Hoffman, not sure if you have any ties to Drop other then their ownership of this forum, but if you do, will you please inform them of this situation? It's incredibly bad look for them to be running this set given OP's false claims of ownership to the Handarbeit image. Most people around here know that Drop doesn't need more bad PR tied to them. Thanks
So it seems COCO got this Idea way before DSS Hand work was in the plan...
Seems COCO contacted SP and was in the planning with them to run SP Handarbeit BEFORE, DSS Hand work was in plan.
In my eyes, COCO did GMK Handarbeit so he has some credit to "own" the idea of running anything handarbeit-wise.
Fu.. the haters and bandwagoning.
I am buyin! :thumb:
So it seems COCO got this Idea way before DSS Hand work was in the plan...From my understanding SP wasn’t contacted until I posted my interest check for hand work. So yea...I could be wrong but from my contacts it seems I presented dss hand work, then SP was contacted. The reasoning for hand work spawned out of the want for faster turnaround and a new profile. All of which I expressed in my initial interest check. And coincidentally is also mentioned here. I knew there would possibly be a gmk r2 because most popular sets get a r2 but no one knew of a SP variant
Seems COCO contacted SP and was in the planning with them to run SP Handarbeit BEFORE, DSS Hand work was in plan.
In my eyes, COCO did GMK Handarbeit so he has some credit to "own" the idea of running anything handarbeit-wise.
Fu.. the haters and bandwagoning.
I am buyin! :thumb:
Senior Hoffman, not sure if you have any ties to Drop other then their ownership of this forum, but if you do, will you please inform them of this situation? It's incredibly bad look for them to be running this set given OP's false claims of ownership to the Handarbeit image. Most people around here know that Drop doesn't need more bad PR tied to them. Thanks
So it seems COCO got this Idea way before DSS Hand work was in the plan...
Seems COCO contacted SP and was in the planning with them to run SP Handarbeit BEFORE, DSS Hand work was in plan.
In my eyes, COCO did GMK Handarbeit so he has some credit to "own" the idea of running anything handarbeit-wise.
Fu.. the haters and bandwagoning.
I am buyin! :thumb:
So it seems COCO got this Idea way before DSS Hand work was in the plan...(https://i.imgflip.com/3ewk9y.jpg)
Seems COCO contacted SP and was in the planning with them to run SP Handarbeit BEFORE, DSS Hand work was in plan.
In my eyes, COCO did GMK Handarbeit so he has some credit to "own" the idea of running anything handarbeit-wise.
Fu.. the haters and bandwagoning.
I am buyin! :thumb:
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
This doesn't explain you denying permission for someone to run a set based on the old board, much like you're doing. You can not claim ownership of the colorway used from an old board and thus other people should be allowed to run sets in the same regard. Just because your English isn't good doesn't give you the excuse to improperly communicate your lack of ownership over this theme.
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.Completely understand that English is not the first language and it may be difficult to communicate. That does not mean there should be no communication whatsoever. I tried several times and several ways to communicate with you. I tried messaging you on geekhack multiple times. I tried messaging you through the previous vendors of gmk handarbeit. You did not respond. The only time you responded was when you denied me even having the ability to get a quote for my set based on the notion that you “own the design” which has been pointed out to be a flat out lie. The color orientation as well as the styling was taken directly from a cherry board that was designed to show what cherry was capable of and shown off at trade shows. If anything I was paying homage to that board and had nothing to do with your set. Not only did I change the modifiers. I used completely different colors. I went out of my way to order SP color chips and use completely stock colors from SP to come “close” to the original handarbeit cherry colors. If anything my set was more original than this. From what it seems and from how you are acting, you are gatekeeping the colors and saying you created them when that is simply not true at all. Obviously I have respect for creators what design sets even if they are taken from something else, but this is completely wrong, dishonest, and distasteful.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
Sorry for the lack of the communication in a few hours. I had been sleeping after posting the IC because KR has different time line.Your English appears to be just fine, stop with the excuses.
I saw the many comments about this set, specially related to 'DSS Hand work'.
As I have some language barriers, I can't comment with long writing, but I can tell that I had a plan to run the SA Handarbeit already August 2020 and I have contacted and discussed with Drop from last December.
Please consider mod tilde.Please consider not listening to this man.
Please consider mod tilde.Please consider not listening to this man.
This strikes me as the kind of petty selfishness of a child who won't let his sister play with his toys, even though he's not using it. There's no 40s kit here. The DSS 40s set would not overlap with this market at all. "Mine mine mine!"
쪼잔하고 이기적이야. 어린애처럼 "내꺼야!!" 라고 하는 것과 같아.
This kind of cash grab makes a bad name for our community
LETSThis strikes me as the kind of petty selfishness of a child who won't let his sister play with his toys, even though he's not using it. There's no 40s kit here. The DSS 40s set would not overlap with this market at all. "Mine mine mine!"
쪼잔하고 이기적이야. 어린애처럼 "내꺼야!!" 라고 하는 것과 같아.
This kind of cash grab makes a bad name for our community
Doesn't matter now that DSS Hand Work will run in it's original, intended form per Melissa at SP!!
Let's go boys!!
This strikes me as the kind of petty selfishness of a child who won't let his sister play with his toys, even though he's not using it. There's no 40s kit here. The DSS 40s set would not overlap with this market at all. "Mine mine mine!"
쪼잔하고 이기적이야. 어린애처럼 "내꺼야!!" 라고 하는 것과 같아.
This kind of cash grab makes a bad name for our community
Doesn't matter now that DSS Hand Work will run in it's original, intended form per Melissa at SP!!
Let's go boys!!
This strikes me as the kind of petty selfishness of a child who won't let his sister play with his toys, even though he's not using it. There's no 40s kit here. The DSS 40s set would not overlap with this market at all. "Mine mine mine!"
쪼잔하고 이기적이야. 어린애처럼 "내꺼야!!" 라고 하는 것과 같아.
This kind of cash grab makes a bad name for our community
Doesn't matter now that DSS Hand Work will run in it's original, intended form per Melissa at SP!!
Let's go boys!!
If this is true, it's the best thing to come out of this thread.
I'm all aboard the DSS Hand Work train even though I prefer cherry profile ..Update coming tomorrow! Make sure to keep and eye out on the dss hand work IC page!
This strikes me as the kind of petty selfishness of a child who won't let his sister play with his toys, even though he's not using it. There's no 40s kit here. The DSS 40s set would not overlap with this market at all. "Mine mine mine!"
쪼잔하고 이기적이야. 어린애처럼 "내꺼야!!" 라고 하는 것과 같아.
This kind of cash grab makes a bad name for our community
Doesn't matter now that DSS Hand Work will run in it's original, intended form per Melissa at SP!!
Let's go boys!!
If this is true, it's the best thing to come out of this thread.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CMjntux.png)
If this was really a faithful recreation of Handarbeit, it would have been made by GMK, not Signature Plastics. What a wasted opportunity to make a truly great keycap set from the by gone days.
i love SA
What if I told you cylindrical is gross and spherical is the true path to enlightenment?i love SA
i dont
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Just a note that this post needs to go to a different subforum:
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This rule was just made up to get rid of Mito. Since then it's been broken and ignored dozens of times by people in close standing with the mods here.
Just a note that this post needs to go to a different subforum:Morehttps://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36672.msg2573004#msg2573004 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36672.msg2573004#msg2573004)QuoteEffective immediately, all IC's that are posted which are intended to be ran via Massdrop are not allowed to be posted in the IC sub-forum. This includes topics that contain links to vote for a keyset or item through Massdrop. These topics should be made in the Massdrop sub-forum. Topics that are made in the IC sub-forum will be moved to the Massdrop sub-forum.
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This decision comes from the entire moderation team and there will be no exceptions to the rule.
Appreciate the diligent community policing of these threads (no sarcasm, I realize it may come across that way). The IC rules have been updated to remove this Drop-specific rule, as the community as a whole has shifted since the rule was implemented.
Hi all,
Just popping in here to add a detail I forgot: the 2u, 2.25u, and 2.75u spacebars will be using SP's new convex molds.
As for the first week sales, the graph above represents 3/6 vendors with one of them being outdated. It's a decent start but we could definitely use the community's help to make this set a reality! Please consider SA 8010 :)
Great news.
They already had a convex 3u. And 1.25u, but I think Diatec (Filco) owns that mold.
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This rule was just made up to get rid of Mito. Since then it's been broken and ignored dozens of times by people in close standing with the mods here.
Everything in the Spacebars kit larger than 1u will be convex, right? SP now has the tooling, as discussed in SA 8010's GB:Hi all,
Just popping in here to add a detail I forgot: the 2u, 2.25u, and 2.75u spacebars will be using SP's new convex molds.
As for the first week sales, the graph above represents 3/6 vendors with one of them being outdated. It's a decent start but we could definitely use the community's help to make this set a reality! Please consider SA 8010 :)
Great news.
They already had a convex 3u. And 1.25u, but I think Diatec (Filco) owns that mold.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-sa-handarbeit-custom-keycap-set/FP/xDGgvPQBTpGMu3Kx8aOe_4%20-%20SA%20Handarbeit%20-%20Spacebars.png)