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Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: Voixdelion on Wed, 18 August 2010, 05:20:15
Is it possible to swap the position (function essentially, don't really care about the key itself) of the Ctrl and Alt keys on a Model F AT?

I could get used to the lack of arrows and the backspace mod is definitely in order, but I don't know if I can break the motor habit of the ctrl-v-x-c since I do a LOT of cutting and pasting via the keyboard shortcut.
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: Jack on Wed, 18 August 2010, 05:43:46
It's probably easiest to do at the OS. If in Windows you can just use Sharpkeys as it has a feature that will identify the keycode entry when you press the key, makes it easy to remap.
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: Voixdelion on Wed, 18 August 2010, 06:00:23
Quote from: Jack;213848
It's probably easiest to do at the OS. If in Windows you can just use Sharpkeys as it has a feature that will identify the keycode entry when you press the key, makes it easy to remap.


What is "Sharpkeys''?  In windows or 3rd party software?
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: hyperlinked on Wed, 18 August 2010, 06:18:21
AutoHotKey (http://www.autohotkey.com/) seems to be the key remapping utility favored by 9 out of 10 GeekHackers who chew PC's.
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: Jack on Wed, 18 August 2010, 07:00:37
Quote from: Voixdelion;213849
What is "Sharpkeys''?  In windows or 3rd party software?


Third-party freeware. Basically just a GUI for remapping keys via the registry. AHK is nice but for something so low-level like swapping ctrl and alt I would just use Sharpkeys.
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: British on Wed, 18 August 2010, 08:47:42
Quote from: Jack;213863
AHK is nice but for something so low-level like swapping ctrl and alt I would just use Sharpkeys.

Care to elaborate on that ?
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: Jack on Wed, 18 August 2010, 12:29:06
Quote from: British;213876
Care to elaborate on that ?


AHK is an application that sits in the systray capturing keystrokes in realtime and converting them or executing scripts as instructed. Sharpkeys is simply a tool for doing key remaps in the registry that you could do manually if you really wanted to, and when this is done you don't leave any application running; Windows just does a certain keystroke for a certain scan code input as instructed and there's not really any overhead like you would have with using AHK. To put it simply AHK isn't worth using for something so simple, only if you were actually going to script macros with it.
Title: Switching the Alt and Ctrl keys on Model F?
Post by: Voixdelion on Wed, 18 August 2010, 15:31:06
Quote from: Jack;213982
AHK is an application that sits in the systray capturing keystrokes in realtime and converting them or executing scripts as instructed. Sharpkeys is simply a tool for doing key remaps in the registry that you could do manually if you really wanted to, and when this is done you don't leave any application running; Windows just does a certain keystroke for a certain scan code input as instructed and there's not really any overhead like you would have with using AHK. To put it simply AHK isn't worth using for something so simple, only if you were actually going to script macros with it.

It can be done manually via registry also?