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Title: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper | new colorway added | TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Wed, 14 April 2021, 06:25:12
Hi everyone!

We are a small keyboard manufacturer from Germany and in the game since last year. When we experimented with Cerakote, we realized that the mint of our prototype perfectly matched a copper plate that was still in our workshop. Philip immediately set about polishing the copper plate. The idea for the MiCo was born. (see the pics below, no render!)

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A idea from the community: What do you think about that new colorway? May we should rename in Bu(rgundy)Co60 ... :)

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Now we would like to present the idea to the community and find out what you think of the design. As a base for the board we could use our standard 60% with gasket mount.
In detail it has the following specs:


- Mounting: gasket-mount with brass weights as support (see exploded view)
- Mounting plate: polycarbonate, aluminum or brass
- Typing angle: 6°
- Front height: 17 mm
- Possible tops: WK, WKL, HHKB
- Case color: mint (ceracoated) + polished copper bottom-plate
- Possible Keyboard-Layouts with Teleport PCB: Ansi and Iso layouts for Standard, Tsangan, Arrows, HHKB, WKL (Stepped Caps, Split-Shift right and Split-Backspace, see pics below)
- Connector: USB-C connector with daughterboard for a horizontal cable exit
- Lights: none


We have prepared a Google form for the interest check. Please let us know what you think of the idea/board, what other suggestions you might have, where you are from, etc. In any case, interested or not - we are looking forward to your answers and are excited about the results, which we will discuss with you in two weeks! End of the IC is the 28th of April '21.

If the interest check was successful, we should be able to launch the Groupbuy around May!
As the small manufacturer we are (and only producing in Germany), our maximum quantity is 100 boards. From 25 boards the groupbuy could take place.
The target price is around 300 - 350 € (excl. taxes). (depends on the results of the IC).
Currently we only ship within EU, but we´ll try to make them available to a broader audience, so no one feels left out.


As a quality reference you can have a look at our current Groupbuy - the MKD-Custom 60%. (https://www.theteleport.de/en/collections/teleport-60-mkd-edition/products/mkd-60-board (https://www.theteleport.de/en/collections/teleport-60-mkd-edition/products/mkd-60-board))

And the related typing video (raw! no post production)

LINK TO THE IC FORM FOR MiCo60
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAC91PHuxZcGOdtpNpE-sEl3xbhXQT8gLq1I_CcWq9YgHulg/viewform?usp=sf_link

Follow us:
https://www.instagram.com/the.teleport/

MKD-Custom 60%

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TELEPORT Standard 60%

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Gasket-mount eploded view

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Possible keyboard-layouts in case of 60%

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For the ones interested in us, here´s a little backstory:
We´re a bunch of three, who got sick of the stock keyboards and found ourselves deep down the rabbit hole of custom keyboards during the end of 2019. What started as a project between two brothers and a childhood friend turned into something we figured we could share with the community. We went from, what we call “the beer prototype”, towards our first CNC-Milled prototype and finally our first complete custom keyboard. Now we want people to be able to use the case as a base for their own project, that´s what the DIY kit is for. We may consider special wishes, just get in touch and we´ll see what we can do. (https://www.theteleport.de/en/)
Title: Re: MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: Agilr on Wed, 14 April 2021, 06:27:12
Hello
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: huey on Wed, 14 April 2021, 06:45:58
400€ for a 60.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: ee on Wed, 14 April 2021, 06:48:00
shipping is hard
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: ddnomad on Wed, 14 April 2021, 07:58:04
So from what I can see it seems like the keyboard will have a lot of empty space inside due to the fact the bottom lid is just a flat sheet of copper. Am I right or there is something to fix it in the design that is not visible from the renders/pics?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: ddnomad on Wed, 14 April 2021, 08:02:31
On another note, it’s a bit weird to have both brass and copper visible in a single keyboard. Is it possible to have all brass parts replaced by copper ones so the whole thing is just mint + copper?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Wed, 14 April 2021, 09:37:13
On another note, it’s a bit weird to have both brass and copper visible in a single keyboard. Is it possible to have all brass parts replaced by copper ones so the whole thing is just mint + copper?

Hey, thx for feedback, thats why we're doing this. Nice idea to have a copper-mountingplate - would be possible!

So from what I can see it seems like the keyboard will have a lot of empty space inside due to the fact the bottom lid is just a flat sheet of copper. Am I right or there is something to fix it in the design that is not visible from the renders/pics?

not so much empty space - our standard 60% fit really well because of the engineering and small pcb. for the rest you cann easily add some foam or silikon. the typing video u can watch is without any foam and without any post production (and no expensive equipment). we're really proud on this.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: homerowco on Wed, 14 April 2021, 09:38:14
> The target price is around 400 €

imo that should be half for a simple one piece with a flat bottom plate.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Wed, 14 April 2021, 09:54:23
> The target price is around 400 €

imo that should be half for a simple one piece with a flat bottom plate.

sry man, not if u produced in germany and in this little quantity... and think of polishing, ceracoating etc... and don't forget the incl. tax  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: homerowco on Wed, 14 April 2021, 10:27:48
sry man, not if u produced in germany and in this little quantity... and think of polishing, ceracoating etc... and don't forget the incl. tax  :eek:

But then you exclude taxes for orders outside the EU?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Wed, 14 April 2021, 10:40:48
sry man, not if u produced in germany and in this little quantity... and think of polishing, ceracoating etc... and don't forget the incl. tax  :eek:

But then you exclude taxes for orders outside the EU?

this will may be our first board shipping outside the EU so we have to evaluate all aspects around taxes - but for now thx for your feedback! i change the target price in an excl. taxes price
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Thu, 15 April 2021, 04:49:09
shipping is hard

may we find a proxy in australia
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Thu, 15 April 2021, 14:14:00
400€ for a 60.

that was incl. german tax... we fitted this. its about 300 to 350 bugs... think of small quantity, gasket, cerakote, polished etc... and high quality ;) have a nice day
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: sup3r170va on Fri, 16 April 2021, 09:02:49
Is UK included?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Sat, 17 April 2021, 14:58:21
Is UK included?

Is included.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 17 April 2021, 15:33:19
Would it take a generic (e.g DZ60) plate and PCB so it could be set up with split spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: fou on Sat, 17 April 2021, 18:18:05
Looks good, but I'm saving and waiting for the TKL T2  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: sup3r170va on Sun, 18 April 2021, 19:27:40
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Mon, 19 April 2021, 08:58:12
i can't undestrand... is the brass/copper part on the back, part of the bottom piece?
they looks like glued to the frame.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Mon, 19 April 2021, 12:15:56
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: c0d3r on Mon, 19 April 2021, 12:45:24
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?

60% never has arrow keys. lol
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Mon, 19 April 2021, 12:56:51
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?

60% never has arrow keys. lol

have a look at the possible layouts above :)
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: sup3r170va on Mon, 19 April 2021, 20:14:10
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?

I still prefer a 65%. 60% is mainly for the symmetry. The arrow key bottom row requires an iso Enter, and breaks the symmetry.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Tue, 20 April 2021, 01:44:55
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?

I still prefer a 65%. 60% is mainly for the symmetry. The arrow key bottom row requires an iso Enter, and breaks the symmetry.

I think you can have ansi arrows with 60%, too. or may i forget something?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: sup3r170va on Tue, 20 April 2021, 08:59:56
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?

I still prefer a 65%. 60% is mainly for the symmetry. The arrow key bottom row requires an iso Enter, and breaks the symmetry.

I think you can have ansi arrows with 60%, too. or may i forget something?

Edited.

Sorry you are right. It supports ANSI enter and arrow keys. There are some changes to the R4 row, eg 2u shift and 1u shift instead of the more regular 2.25 and 1.75u shifts.

Besides arrow keys, the other benefit of 65% is that u can add delete, pg up and pg dn keys.

The biggest benefit of 60% is the perfect symmetry, and adding arrow keys break that symmetry, which diminishes the point of having a 60% in the first place. My 2c.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: c0d3r on Tue, 20 April 2021, 18:11:15
Found the IC :)
I hope a 65% is considered instead. I really prefer to have arrow keys.
The colour scheme is perfect for GMK copper!

So 60% with arrows is no option?

60% never has arrow keys. lol

have a look at the possible layouts above :)

Ah, you were right.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: c0d3r on Tue, 20 April 2021, 18:18:03
VIA compatible?
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Wed, 21 April 2021, 13:35:56
VIA compatible?

Yes, will be via compatible.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: Mt_Ursa on Wed, 21 April 2021, 17:15:54
This is an absolutely gorgeous project. I have emailed you regarding your custom/alteration services and hope to hear back from you soon!
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Thu, 22 April 2021, 11:42:59
Would it take a generic (e.g DZ60) plate and PCB so it could be set up with split spacebar?

I think will be possible. I will have a look at it while constructing.
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Thu, 22 April 2021, 17:17:32
i can't undestrand... is the brass/copper part on the back, part of the bottom piece?
they looks like glued to the frame.

No, there is no glue anywhere. Yes, it is part of the bottom piece and we are looking forward to improve the inner bottom for less space inside
Title: Re: [IC] MiCo60 | mint-copper keyboard special edition by TELEPORT
Post by: WaS on Fri, 23 April 2021, 08:29:10
Looks good, but I'm saving and waiting for the TKL T2  ;D

nice, hope it's coming soon :)