(https://i.imgur.com/3yXWSr7.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0o8I9aG.png)
Some of you may know some of you may not know this but this set was originally designed a long-long time ago, 2015 to be precise
and the whole story is pretty dramatic and dark so i don't want to get deep into it and blame or justify anyone let's just say that
the whole thing went not as planned.
2 years later in 2017 Originative.Co ran a successful group-buy based on existed colors and
name, since then a lot of people were waiting to see this set coming back with a fresh look and modern kitting.
For me personally Miami Nights is the most gorgeus set that GMK produced for all time
So i had this idea in my head for almost a year now and today i feel like it's finally time to give it a shot
and see how community feels about this.
To start i've created only a base kit render with a slightly updated colors.
I know it's not a lot but for now i just want to see if this idea has a potential to grow further.
(https://i.imgur.com/r7U8oTw.png)
This is early stage of IC and colors are not final in any way.
I feel like the main colors of the set which is [TU2] for teal [MG1] for pink and [GE1] for yellow accents from basic GMK color palette should be the same
But for a base color i chose to go with a RAL Classic 5004 this is one the deepest navy color from the RAL book
and after a countless hours of comparing one to another i believe its representing miami night sky better then anything.
Although i keep in mind an idea to recreate a set using RAL colors only
(https://i.imgur.com/cCTAI2Z.png)
I've been working on this kit for quite some time now and i think that this is pretty close to what most people would be happy with
There is small OG references that i wanted to be on this set such as "System" and "Super" modifiers from the old days
Some double-line legends on modifiers and old divide symbol
Let me know what you think about this, there is always room to improve
(https://i.imgur.com/FYNO376.png)
TBA
(https://i.imgur.com/ztqUPjk.png)
TBA
(https://i.imgur.com/kE95UO2.png)
TBA
(https://i.imgur.com/Dx8i78a.png)
TBA
(https://i.imgur.com/xsZpNB1.png)
So far i'm working on this alone
Although i have some ideas on novelties, colors and kitting i would love to have someone to help me with a renders, feedback, kitting, design and other.
If you want to be a part of this feel free to contact me on Discord: kucherenkoZZZ#6690
Did you ask permission first? I've messaged originative multiple times about doing a rerun/spinnoff of Miami nights, and they told me that they don't want anyone using their design
Originative is not the owner of the original colorway. The initial IC and GB (that went not as planned) for this set was posted in 2015 here on geekhack by someone with a nickname "IvanIvanovich" after he collected the money for GB he simply vanished and the last time his account was active 3 years ago, Originative made the set only in 2017 (2 years after initial designer post) using existed colors and name and something tells me that they are not asked any permission for that either BUT if it turns out that they actually have some sort of permission from him and they are the rightful owners of this colorway and name we can close this thread the forget about this idea.
That's very odd. Ivan disappeared, I don't understand how they could gain permission from him but the GB members couldn't get their set. That timeline doesn't add up. I believe it should sit in a realm with WoB/BoW/Beige. The sad thing is, GMK would actually turn it down to keep in good favour with oco, which is sad.
I knew about Ivan, I did extensive research about the situation when I myself was trying to run the set, however, I still decided to ask originative. This is what originative told me:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yvW8eb0.png)
Regardless, I'm excited to see this set actually be revived. I was really passionate about bringing this set back into the community and was disappointed when originative told me that they had the rights to the set, and they didn't want me running it. GLWIC :thumb:
I actually contacted them couple days ago regarding Ivan contacts to get a permission when i heard about their rights on this set i asked about previous designer and it turned out they are "not aware of the original situation regarding the set" which seems like a ton of house **** to me
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6lV40g.png)
Did you ask permission first? I've messaged originative multiple times about doing a rerun/spinnoff of Miami nights, and they told me that they don't want anyone using their design
Originative is not the owner of the original colorway. The initial IC and GB (that went not as planned) for this set was posted in 2015 here on geekhack by someone with a nickname "IvanIvanovich" after he collected the money for GB he simply vanished and the last time his account was active 3 years ago, Originative made the set only in 2017 (2 years after initial designer post) using existed colors and name and something tells me that they are not asked any permission for that either BUT if it turns out that they actually have some sort of permission from him and they are the rightful owners of this colorway and name we can close this thread the forget about this idea.
That's very odd. Ivan disappeared, I don't understand how they could gain permission from him but the GB members couldn't get their set. That timeline doesn't add up. I believe it should sit in a realm with WoB/BoW/Beige. The sad thing is, GMK would actually turn it down to keep in good favour with oco, which is sad.
I knew about Ivan, I did extensive research about the situation when I myself was trying to run the set, however, I still decided to ask originative. This is what originative told me:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yvW8eb0.png)
Regardless, I'm excited to see this set actually be revived. I was really passionate about bringing this set back into the community and was disappointed when originative told me that they had the rights to the set, and they didn't want me running it. GLWIC :thumb:
I actually contacted them couple days ago regarding Ivan contacts to get a permission when i heard about their rights on this set i asked about previous designer and it turned out they are "not aware of the original situation regarding the set" which seems like a ton of house **** to me
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6lV40g.png)
Yeah, sounds more like they'll take ownership of the set right up until someone presents the truth, in which case they'll play dumb. Either way, this is clearly a fault on originative's part, and I'm still very excited to see this set return
Did you ask permission first? I've messaged originative multiple times about doing a rerun/spinnoff of Miami nights, and they told me that they don't want anyone using their design
Originative is not the owner of the original colorway. The initial IC and GB (that went not as planned) for this set was posted in 2015 here on geekhack by someone with a nickname "IvanIvanovich" after he collected the money for GB he simply vanished and the last time his account was active 3 years ago, Originative made the set only in 2017 (2 years after initial designer post) using existed colors and name and something tells me that they are not asked any permission for that either BUT if it turns out that they actually have some sort of permission from him and they are the rightful owners of this colorway and name we can close this thread the forget about this idea.
That's very odd. Ivan disappeared, I don't understand how they could gain permission from him but the GB members couldn't get their set. That timeline doesn't add up. I believe it should sit in a realm with WoB/BoW/Beige. The sad thing is, GMK would actually turn it down to keep in good favour with oco, which is sad.
I knew about Ivan, I did extensive research about the situation when I myself was trying to run the set, however, I still decided to ask originative. This is what originative told me:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yvW8eb0.png)
Regardless, I'm excited to see this set actually be revived. I was really passionate about bringing this set back into the community and was disappointed when originative told me that they had the rights to the set, and they didn't want me running it. GLWIC :thumb:
I actually contacted them couple days ago regarding Ivan contacts to get a permission when i heard about their rights on this set i asked about previous designer and it turned out they are "not aware of the original situation regarding the set" which seems like a ton of house **** to me
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6lV40g.png)
I don't believe they have any grounds to claim this. I think you will still have trouble ahead because oco has a working relationship with GMK. Best of luck.
Did you ask permission first? I've messaged originative multiple times about doing a rerun/spinnoff of Miami nights, and they told me that they don't want anyone using their design
Originative is not the owner of the original colorway. The initial IC and GB (that went not as planned) for this set was posted in 2015 here on geekhack by someone with a nickname "IvanIvanovich" after he collected the money for GB he simply vanished and the last time his account was active 3 years ago, Originative made the set only in 2017 (2 years after initial designer post) using existed colors and name and something tells me that they are not asked any permission for that either BUT if it turns out that they actually have some sort of permission from him and they are the rightful owners of this colorway and name we can close this thread the forget about this idea.
That's very odd. Ivan disappeared, I don't understand how they could gain permission from him but the GB members couldn't get their set. That timeline doesn't add up. I believe it should sit in a realm with WoB/BoW/Beige. The sad thing is, GMK would actually turn it down to keep in good favour with oco, which is sad.
I knew about Ivan, I did extensive research about the situation when I myself was trying to run the set, however, I still decided to ask originative. This is what originative told me:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yvW8eb0.png)
Regardless, I'm excited to see this set actually be revived. I was really passionate about bringing this set back into the community and was disappointed when originative told me that they had the rights to the set, and they didn't want me running it. GLWIC :thumb:
I actually contacted them couple days ago regarding Ivan contacts to get a permission when i heard about their rights on this set i asked about previous designer and it turned out they are "not aware of the original situation regarding the set" which seems like a ton of house **** to me
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6lV40g.png)
Sounds like o.co is going to shut this down if you attempt to run it.
This is early stage of IC and colors are not final in any way.
I feel like the main colors of the set which is [TU2] for teal [MG1] for pink and [GE1] for yellow accents from basic GMK color palette should be the same
But for a base color i chose to go with a RAL Classic 5004 this is one the deepest navy color from the RAL book
and after a countless hours of comparing one to another i believe its representing miami night sky better then anything.
Although i keep in mind an idea to recreate a set using RAL colors only
Current state of GMK: Being as accurate to life as possible, so you have chosen to bring awareness to prevalent light pollution in Miami by changing set color from CR black to a dark navy.
Did you ask permission first? I've messaged originative multiple times about doing a rerun/spinnoff of Miami nights, and they told me that they don't want anyone using their design
Originative is not the owner of the original colorway. The initial IC and GB (that went not as planned) for this set was posted in 2015 here on geekhack by someone with a nickname "IvanIvanovich" after he collected the money for GB he simply vanished and the last time his account was active 3 years ago, Originative made the set only in 2017 (2 years after initial designer post) using existed colors and name and something tells me that they are not asked any permission for that either BUT if it turns out that they actually have some sort of permission from him and they are the rightful owners of this colorway and name we can close this thread the forget about this idea.
That's very odd. Ivan disappeared, I don't understand how they could gain permission from him but the GB members couldn't get their set. That timeline doesn't add up. I believe it should sit in a realm with WoB/BoW/Beige. The sad thing is, GMK would actually turn it down to keep in good favour with oco, which is sad.
I knew about Ivan, I did extensive research about the situation when I myself was trying to run the set, however, I still decided to ask originative. This is what originative told me:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yvW8eb0.png)
Regardless, I'm excited to see this set actually be revived. I was really passionate about bringing this set back into the community and was disappointed when originative told me that they had the rights to the set, and they didn't want me running it. GLWIC :thumb:
I actually contacted them couple days ago regarding Ivan contacts to get a permission when i heard about their rights on this set i asked about previous designer and it turned out they are "not aware of the original situation regarding the set" which seems like a ton of house **** to me
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6lV40g.png)
Ironic... originative co calls out others for stealing keysets when they themselves steal sets like Muted, ~Sky~ Modo, and now Miami Nights (who's original designer Ivan was a mod and a scammer)
Here is the reply from GMK i got today (last picture), thanks for your interest and sorry for taking your time
I believe this set is possible to make with JTK but it doesn't really feel right to me to have such an iconic set from a different manufacture.
But if anyone want to do this - you have my complete support on this, also as i've already have ideas/understanding about rest of the kits and novelties design feel free to contact me via Discord from initial post
Here is some screenshots from the old threads that may shed some light on the situation for those who are not aware
(more info can be found in replies above this post)
In my opinion after initial GB from rightful designer and owner of this set went horribly wrong Originative.Co decided to run their own GB for a set based on someone else's name and color scheme
which honestly i can understand since a company is a business in a first place
But what i cannot accept is that now they are claiming themselves a rightful owners of this set and not letting anyone else to take a part in it,
and i don't know about you but for me it seems not fair at all. We are all here on the same ground and no one can get a permission from the initial designer since he left the hobby a long time ago
so either no one is trying to recreate this set or we all have a right to take a part in it and present our vision
Original designer IC Post of GMK Miami Nights
(https://i.imgur.com/ba1RkLQ.png)
Something went wrong
(https://i.imgur.com/cpv0tql.png)
Year after GB went wrong...
(https://i.imgur.com/WlmgzWq.png)
GMK response for request to rerun knowing that Originative.Co didn't have any permission either
(https://i.imgur.com/cy37Jy2.png)