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Title: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Wed, 19 May 2021, 06:12:56
I am very glad to share our second product with you, I am  ABBB, where are you?
First of all, let us take a look at Valli60 with the  pictures, which is our definition of this product, simple and meaningful of design.
(https://i.imgur.com/GQqKjfb.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/1IG0YvA.jpg)
Kit information:
Typing Angle: 7°
Construction: Gasket mount
Case options:
         Aluminum: anodized black, anodized silver,anodized gray
         Carbon fibre:black
         PC:transparent
-Plate options
        Brass: Primary
        PC:transparent
        carbon fiber :black


Optional accessories:wired not hot-swap pcb,QMK&VIA suppor

(https://i.imgur.com/VvPqGOL.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6DZqP73.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/baaR2tF.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/zu1zUhN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OAp8KyF.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/A6QqVvP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UAOUwJN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/yr5eIIq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/x1k6QXM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/PYwWSTA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WyXTK6d.png)(https://i.imgur.com/vNUgNq0.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/yjaQfBe.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/P161apH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Oj9rWnL.png)(https://i.imgur.com/Xs0TIvG.jpg)
 
sound test https://youtu.be/5uZdvUFw0zc (https://youtu.be/5uZdvUFw0zc)

for latest update,pls follow:https://discord.gg/D6tzYKgv67
Update history
2021/5/19 IC post
2021/5/20 add and change some pics
2021/5/21 add sound test
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: marshskitow on Wed, 19 May 2021, 06:40:58
Looks good, like that there is a different top. Looks like it's customizable  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:17:08
Gah damn, that leafspring tho
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Wed, 19 May 2021, 13:31:35
 
Gah damn, that leafspring tho

Looks like the Leaf Springs probably won't do anything since the gasket covers the entire thing
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: cecioclock on Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:26:02
Loving the carbon fiber X aluminum combination. Drooling rn...
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Ustinj on Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:31:39
Please no north facing LEDs.
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:55:12
Gah damn, that leafspring tho

Looks like the Leaf Springs probably won't do anything since the gasket covers the entire thing

Yes it is a stupidly designed  thing because the  "leaf spring"   doesn't actually do anything.   it's basically top mount   or like normal "gasket" mount   or whatever this stupid   hobby calls it

The treeleaf is angry at the Hobby and  He doesn't like it!! Stupid Inconsistent Terminology!
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:59:17
Exterior design wise looks interesting

Would need to get some protos out for real functional judgement though

Also can we just agree that keeb ICs should have protos?

Renders alone only tell so little of the story
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:22:17
Exterior design wise looks interesting

Would need to get some protos out for real functional judgement though

Also can we just agree that keeb ICs should have protos?

Renders alone only tell so little of the story
In fact we already have a protype, I will update the sound test later
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: adi on Wed, 19 May 2021, 21:15:52
North facing LEDS? in 2021?

Also, how much flex you reckon those leaf springs actually add compared to standard gasket?
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: LiTurk on Wed, 19 May 2021, 21:33:07
 :-X i have nothing to say
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: seh0nk on Thu, 20 May 2021, 01:09:59
If the gaps in the middle of the plate are 1.53mm, that means the plate strips on either side are 0.5mm   :eek:

seems like the plate will be hard to build with and not very durable. Especially with more brittle materials.
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Thu, 20 May 2021, 04:23:45
If the gaps in the middle of the plate are 1.53mm, that means the plate strips on either side are 0.5mm   :eek:

seems like the plate will be hard to build with and not very durable. Especially with more brittle materials.
We  test  the protype and feel that it is OK. The PC material is not fragile,It's been in use for almost a month
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Thu, 20 May 2021, 04:27:11
Gah damn, that leafspring tho

Looks like the Leaf Springs probably won't do anything since the gasket covers the entire thing

Yes it is a stupidly designed  thing because the  "leaf spring"   doesn't actually do anything.   it's basically top mount   or like normal "gasket" mount   or whatever this stupid   hobby calls it

The treeleaf is angry at the Hobby and  He doesn't like it!! Stupid Inconsistent Terminology!


Have you ever used it?
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Thu, 20 May 2021, 06:26:18
Please no north facing LEDs.
sorry,wrong render
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Thu, 20 May 2021, 08:28:35
Gah damn, that leafspring tho

Looks like the Leaf Springs probably won't do anything since the gasket covers the entire thing

Yes it is a stupidly designed  thing because the  "leaf spring"   doesn't actually do anything.   it's basically top mount   or like normal "gasket" mount   or whatever this stupid   hobby calls it
the upper part prevent the leaf spring to bend upward. true.
but, compared to the same design with solid/filled plate, this leaf spring plate will result more flexible.
am i wrong?
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 20 May 2021, 09:31:28
Gah damn, that leafspring tho

Looks like the Leaf Springs probably won't do anything since the gasket covers the entire thing

Yes it is a stupidly designed  thing because the  "leaf spring"   doesn't actually do anything.   it's basically top mount   or like normal "gasket" mount   or whatever this stupid   hobby calls it

The treeleaf is angry at the Hobby and  He doesn't like it!! Stupid Inconsistent Terminology!


Have you ever used it?

Y'all don't have proto pictures, so I'm assuming you haven't used it either  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 20 May 2021, 09:33:48
Gah damn, that leafspring tho

Looks like the Leaf Springs probably won't do anything since the gasket covers the entire thing

Yes it is a stupidly designed  thing because the  "leaf spring"   doesn't actually do anything.   it's basically top mount   or like normal "gasket" mount   or whatever this stupid   hobby calls it
the upper part prevent the leaf spring to bend upward. true.
but, compared to the same design with solid/filled plate, this leaf spring plate will result more flexible.
am i wrong?

maybe if you're pressing hard but I can't see it being different in normal typing
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Ella on Thu, 20 May 2021, 11:03:07
Yay useless leafsprings

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Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Que7797 on Thu, 20 May 2021, 12:50:37
The aesthetic and some of the layout choices are not my personal preference, especially the open bottom row, but the rest of the plate is interesting. Im not sure how functional the flex cuts will be, and durability would definitely be a concern but you have obviously put some time into the design and im looking forward to seeing and hearing the proto, if only so you can silence all the armchair designers in this thread, haha!
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Joaquox on Fri, 21 May 2021, 01:30:43
Sound test is up

I think it's worth mentioning that ABBB and his team has probably made the fastest GB of 2021 with the Vast-60, which was delivered in under 2 months at a very juicy price point!
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Fri, 21 May 2021, 02:34:43
the sound is not to my taste, maybe lubing the switches will help but it sounds too hollow and not much better than an entry tray mount like tofu, maybe another plate material or some foam would help but it will have to be a pass from me.

by the way for the leaf springs people are talking about maybe it is that the designer was not aiming for them to be leaf springs since they are completely blocked from below so they cant flex, maybe it is just for aestheic purpose
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Fri, 21 May 2021, 02:36:57
the space bar sounded like it was a whole different keyboard, WTF
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Joaquox on Fri, 21 May 2021, 06:11:18
the space bar sounded like it was a whole different keyboard, WTF
The plate is cut very differently for the bottom row!
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 22 May 2021, 04:28:55
Love the CF on the top. great looking board design and could sound really good to use.  Watching.
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Sat, 22 May 2021, 09:56:12
the spacebar sounds strange.
not bad, but still strange  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: kioskhill45 on Sat, 22 May 2021, 19:31:07
How does HHKB or WKL or that weird arrow key layout work with the clear polycarbonate? Do you see the plate under it or will the case have blockers? It sort of seems like the latter in the renders, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Sat, 22 May 2021, 21:40:58
How does HHKB or WKL or that weird arrow key layout work with the clear polycarbonate? Do you see the plate under it or will the case have blockers? It sort of seems like the latter in the renders, but I'm not sure.
have blockers,you are correct
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: kioskhill45 on Sun, 23 May 2021, 01:14:00
Ok cool! Really excited for this
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: made in China on Sun, 23 May 2021, 22:22:23
the sound is not to my taste, maybe lubing the switches will help but it sounds too hollow and not much better than an entry tray mount like tofu, maybe another plate material or some foam would help but it will have to be a pass from me.

by the way for the leaf springs people are talking about maybe it is that the designer was not aiming for them to be leaf springs since they are completely blocked from below so they cant flex, maybe it is just for aestheic purpose
Poron on the top and the bottom of the plate , and the flex cut of the plate itself can indeed make the keyboard feel a relatively soft typing
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 28 May 2021, 11:14:47
Please use some nicer feet - these feet have been there since 2013 or older and are featured in < $70 low-profile keyboard cases.

I look forward to the evolution of this design otherwise.
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: Domantas on Thu, 05 August 2021, 14:50:59
Hey,
Is it universal plate design? And gonna be honest yeah those feets ugly, please change it
Title: Re: [IC] Valli60 - 60% Keyboard
Post by: VAMP on Mon, 09 August 2021, 06:20:09
i like how this looks!