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Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 24 August 2010, 07:59:07

Zowie Celeritas
latin word for speed


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Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 08:06:31
While I am glad to see all these new people in the mechanical keyboard market, why do all these "gamer" keyboards have a huge front lip?  I guess gamers don't use wrist rests or really type a whole lot.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Tue, 24 August 2010, 08:40:55
afaik MX black or browns, my source didn't quite remember from Computex but he will ask
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 24 August 2010, 08:45:08
the prototype was unveiled at Gamescom 2010. I don't think Zowie had a booth at Computex 2010. I like the Repeat Rate Adjustment reminds me of the Northgate Omnikey.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: r3n4m3 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 08:51:08
Really interesting time has come, the companies start to do mechanic keyboards, again. In the beginning mechanic keyboards have been created, after have passed to membrane, and now, again, mechanic go to mass. Is it recurrence?

It will be not bad, if this keypad uses MX Brown switchers. Different switchers for different people.
Now we have SS 7G or 6Gv2 with MX Black & Razer with MX Blue
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Tue, 24 August 2010, 08:57:31
Quote from: lmnop;215998
I don't think Zowie had a booth at Computex 2010.

Not everything has to be public.

Unfortunately all these new "gaming" keyboards aren't tenkeyless, I want at least see something like Microsofts X6 solution, not that I'm not allready satisfied with my Filco.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Megaweapon on Tue, 24 August 2010, 09:03:36
Underlighting, eh?

(http://imgur.com/dCtRx.jpg)

What next, fog?

I would rather have a left shift key I can actually hit.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Vittra on Tue, 24 August 2010, 09:04:20
Quote from: itlnstln;215984
While I am glad to see all these new people in the mechanical keyboard market, why do all these "gamer" keyboards have a huge front lip?  I guess gamers don't use wrist rests or really type a whole lot.


Mostly the former.. they'd rather have something intergrated or attachable.

From a gamer's perspective, Zowie's offering is FAR more interesting than Razer's at a first glace, though I doubt I'd use any of these added features over my Filco anyways. Not of a fan of the small left shift button or enter key though.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 09:05:47
Costar or iOne?
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 09:06:25
Quote from: Vittra;216011
Mostly the former.. they'd rather have something intergrated or attachable.


So would I, but that's not even a full wrist rest.  The Steelseries v.7 has a full wrist rest.  This and the Razer just have a large, unnecessary/unusable front lip.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Tue, 24 August 2010, 09:13:44
Quote from: Vittra;216011
Not of a fan of the small left shift button or enter key though.

That's the german layout.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 09:27:28
In twenty years time, keyboard collectors will look back on these Taiwanese Cherry keyboards in the same way we currently look back on those beige Taiwanese Alps keyboards...

...and we'll still be waiting on that buckling spring Mighty Mouse...
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: MyvTeddy on Tue, 24 August 2010, 11:27:22
First Razer, now Zowie? Isn't Zowie particularly new and next thing you know, Microsoft and Logitech will release their mechanical version of their keyboards.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 11:28:33
We can only hope.  Maybe we could get an MS Natural 4000 with Cherry browns in the future.  That would be awesome.  I would be excited at the idea of MS and Logitech releasing mechanical keyboards.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 24 August 2010, 11:29:15
Zowie has a couple mice, mouse pads, headset, mechanical keyboard. they are also developing a monitor with BenQ.

I think we will see a couple more mechanical keyboards by smaller companies like Zowie, Mad Catz/Saitek before a big company like Logitech or Microsoft.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 11:32:52
If Mad Catz comes out with a 'board that is anywhere near the quality of their R.A.T mice, that would be awesome, too.  While I don't really get into the gamer stuff, seeing new mechanical keyboards coming out is always a good thing.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: spolia optima on Tue, 24 August 2010, 11:35:31
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the bigger firms (MS, Logi, etc) were working on *gasp* a new switch design.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 11:38:21
Quote from: spolia optima;216106
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the bigger firms (MS, Logi, etc) were working on *gasp* a new switch design.


Keep it smooth and around 45g. and I'm in.  New would be good, too.  Right now, Cherry has things on lock down.  A little competition and innovation would be great.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: r3n4m3 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 12:03:55
Cherry will be enriched :cool: :evil:
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 12:33:13
Cherry has been coasting on the keyboard/keyswitch front for awhile now.  Hopefully, this influx of new mechanical keyboard models will wake them up and encourage them to be more active in this market (new keyboards, new switch designs, etc.).  I don't think it's going to happen unless there is a new switch maker that starts eating into their market. That said, I don't there will be a new switch maker unless MS or Logitech decides to make some proprietary design (unlikely), and with all of the third-party keyboards coming out, Cherry won't have much motivation to make their own product.  Then again, we are talking about Cherry who doesn't have much motivation to do much of anything.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: spolia optima on Tue, 24 August 2010, 12:42:50
Unlikely, yes. But the mechanical keyboard market has seen a remarkable comeback in recent years. Someone's bound to develop a product to "shake things up", if only to put themselves in the spotlight. If anyone, I'd wager on Logitech. Hell, they have the RnD funds for it, and I'm sure that they wanna get some of their business back from Razer. Why not create a cost-effective mechanical that even die-hard rubber dome fans would like? Topre-clone, anyone? *crosses fingers*
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 12:54:24
Cherry... Motivation? Doing something?


Pardon me, I'm going to go buy stock in an ice hotel in hell--just look out for the giants.
Title: An idea
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 24 August 2010, 12:55:24
I think it would be cool to have a mechanical switch keyboard (possibly Topre) where the keys are weighted differently to create a more 'ergonomic' experience. Key Tronic has this feature and even though their keyboards are rubber dome, they're very comfortable to type on. This photo shows how the keys are weighted in a Key Tronic:

(http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/images/ErgoColkeyv2.gif)

I think this is a very cool feature.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 24 August 2010, 13:01:17
It's cooler in theory than in practice.  I have a variable-weight Topre, and the effect is very subtle.  So much so, that you don't even notice it (maybe that means they did it right). It might be more noticeable on heavier switches, but it seems that when you go lighter, those same differences aren't as apparent, at least IMO.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 24 August 2010, 13:08:24
I think the coming years more and more consumers and suppliers will focus on improving their computer interfaces. Microsoft and/or Logitech are bound to jump in with mechanical keyboards eventually.

The only reason I have an Iphone is because of the quality of the user interface( Fit ) not because of the offered functionality(Function) or aesthetics(Form). Form Fit Function with the emphasis on Fit..... The computer era started with emphasis on Function, then there was emphasis on Form with companies like Apple and lately the emphasis starts to be where it is most needed and ultimately generates the most direct consumer  satisfaction : Fit.
That's the whole reason why you try shoes before buying. They need to Fit around your feet even though you are sure of the generic Form/Shape ( Size 11 ) or Function ( Keep feet warm and dry ). If all shoe shops in your neighborhood sell the same low quality and low price shoes you might never know anything better fitting exists. The presence of the Internet can break this fragile stalemate with sites like GH [Rampant Self Advertising On] or possibly mine.... [ Rampant Self Advertising Off ]


Regards.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Tue, 24 August 2010, 13:25:22
I shot off an email to Zowie asking what kind of switches this uses. If I get an update I'll post back.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 24 August 2010, 13:33:02
It's interesting to see that the Zonal Organization for World Intelligence and Espionage has now branched out into the keyboard business.


Your Zowie Face was the title of the theme music for "In Like Flint", the sequel to "Our Man Flint".
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 24 August 2010, 15:15:17
Quote from: ripster;216166
Plot Synopsis: Guy Discovers Tropical Paradise Island with Bikini Clad Pleasure Units.  
Blows up island.
WTF?
Well, as the clip you showed us indicates, the "pleasure units" were real women, enslaved by hypnotism. So of course Flint would rescue them!

And the second move in the series centered around a spa, "Fabulous Face", also brainwashing women, but this time to carry out their schemes directly.

One of the James Bond novels also centered around brainwashing women: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service". But brainwashing women into bringing a virus into Britain to wipe out its chickens somehow seems to be a rather lacklustre diabolical plan.

That was, of course, the book where James Bond actually got married - but then, shortly after, his new bride was murdered by Blofeld. The movie featured Diana Rigg in her role... but while she might have been the best Bond-girl, it featured George Lazenby as Bond, who was unsuccessful in that role.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 18:23:53
Quote from: quadibloc;216179
it featured George Lazenby as Bond, who was unsuccessful in that role.


Yes, in the same way that Mussolini was an unsuccessful leader of Italy...
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 24 August 2010, 18:39:18
Go go 80s pop ones -



Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 24 August 2010, 18:41:39
Timothy Dalton my favourite bond :">
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: r3n4m3 on Wed, 25 August 2010, 13:14:18
Keypad discussion has ended with talks about super agents of the British Secret Service :lol: :biggrin1:
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Superfluous Parentheses on Wed, 25 August 2010, 13:54:53
Quote from: ripster;216022
Zowie Celiritas.

They spent too much time on the product name and not enough on the company name.


Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 25 August 2010, 14:08:02
There is only one Bond, and his name is Sean Connery.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 25 August 2010, 14:12:22
Quote from: lmnop;216246
Timothy Dalton my favourite bond :">


The Living Daylights is one of my favorite Bond films, although I still think Goldeneye was the best.

Not least because almost all the keyboards in it were Model Ms :P
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 25 August 2010, 14:16:16
That keyboard referenced in the OP has a name that sounds too much like "celery".
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 27 August 2010, 01:35:49
For some reason I have the sudden urge to do yoga with a Philadelphia Armenian Escort...
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 27 August 2010, 03:00:18
We might want to pose a ' science ' question on the GH application form to avoid spammers......

Something techy : ' Name a clicky AND tactile switch ?'
or maybe something more GH people oriented : ' What is the name of the person who is great with lego? '

;-)

I mostly IP-ban the lot of them when I encounter them.... Pesky little brats....

Regards.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 27 August 2010, 03:01:37
Quote from: ripster;216153
Mythology snark for the win!
Show Image
(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/5/4787/22977.jpg)

I like the automatons the best:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100114170322/ageofempires/images/9/93/Automaton.jpg)
PROSTAGMA?

It's funny they use old Greek for some of the phrases (like skopos), if you're witty, you'll know that's where we get our modern word "scope" from. It means watchman.

Other phrases are a mix between Latin & Greek, which is cool (it means there's still some people who can THINK). Age of Mythology is a very flavourful game. But since Bill Gates shut down ensemble studios (Tony Goodman set up another company however), I don't think a sequel will be made. But perhaps sequel is not needed, they usually mess them up anyhow, and you prefer the original.

Age of Empires 3 definitely is a good example, I knew that game was trash; didn't even have to try it out. It used the age of mythology engine, but butchered it all, forced age of empires into a newer age -- the game is more accustomed to earlier periods. That's what makes it fun! No teutonic knights or phalanx = boring.

PS: the age of empires 1 site is still up on microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/empires/ (http://www.microsoft.com/games/empires/)
That thing is ancient in itself... "game of the year, 1997!" Hey, just when my favourite computer was built!
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Arc'xer on Tue, 31 August 2010, 17:37:26
Since Mad Catz was mentioned, seems like they are at it.

Mad Catz Keyboard survey (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1543650)

Not even sure if it's official but if it turns out to be then I'm guessing if they put that much effort on the RAT and people are wanting to buy a matching set KB/M, then seems like they are considering keyboard with the aesthetics of the mouse.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 31 August 2010, 17:39:11
Maybe the numpad will slide under the keyboard when not needed =P

That would actually be a pretty awesome idea.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 31 August 2010, 17:52:51
I got some more information on the Zowie Celeritas.

Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Jalal on Tue, 31 August 2010, 18:42:54
Noone knows its planned price?
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 31 August 2010, 18:48:04
you may have a point. I don't think it's going to be released for 9-10 months.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 31 August 2010, 20:57:21
Quote from: lmnop;218664
I got some more information on the Zowie Celeritas.

  • Cherry MX Brown switches
  • Keycaps are made out of ABS
  • it has 2 modes Normal Mode (Zowie logo Blue) and Game Mode (Zowie Logo Red).
  • Full NKRO (PS/2)
Do you mean like it can change modes i.e. Battle stations?

That would be awesome.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 31 August 2010, 22:46:52
Quote from: WhiteRice;218718
Do you mean like it can change modes i.e. Battle stations?

That would be awesome.

I don't know the translation isn't very good. when you activate Game Mode it does something to the L-Windows Key. I don't think it simply disables it but rather turns it into another function.

if you look closely at the L-Windows Key it has the Windows Logo but also says Ctrl.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/6tg2eh.jpg)
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: lmnop on Tue, 31 August 2010, 23:16:02
yeah so I sent it to my friend over at OCN who lives in Taiwan and speaks better english than I do. he said when you activate Game Mode it turns the L-Windows Key into third Ctrl Key for games like Starcraft 2.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Wed, 01 September 2010, 01:34:21
Quote from: Jalal;218685
Noone knows its planned price?


Some asian site wrote something about 140-160$
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: skartt on Wed, 01 September 2010, 02:12:24
well browns are more expansive than blues :).
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Jalal on Wed, 01 September 2010, 21:10:19
Quote from: Bullveyr;218748
Some asian site wrote something about 140-160$

thanks. that's not too bad, but if it'll be released very late then i do not care anymore :P


ripster, how do you know pc gamers decrease? And why does it happen?
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Jalal on Wed, 01 September 2010, 21:35:15
Hmm interesting. As i'm concerned, for over a year now i go from time to time in a computer store to search for good (new) pc games. But i never got interested, there was nothing special coming out. i was even searching in review sites for a game i like but with no find. the only game i bought was Sctarcraft 2 recently and before that year just some classic games. Somehow the new games are boring. Maybe many people feel the same.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Jalal on Wed, 01 September 2010, 22:09:33
Haha good advice, but meh i even didn't find something for xbox360. ah anyway i look what games ps3 offers just for fun
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Thu, 02 September 2010, 02:23:05
Quote from: ripster;218808
$150?

Zowie!  Less PC gamers so let's charge more per gamer.

What do you expect from a company who wants 60$ for a painted IMO 1.1 or an actually pretty simpel 5 Button Mice.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: woody on Thu, 02 September 2010, 08:08:02
Quote from: ripster;219046
Get a PS3.   Doubleshot keys!  Nkey (individual lines to the controller - no diodes needed)!  Tactile quiet keys!

And most importantly....
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Valid points. Also this one:

(http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/PS3/31623_the_last_guardian-print.jpg)
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Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Thu, 02 September 2010, 13:09:12
lol, lotsa hate in this thread

@ripster
i dont see how PC gaming is dying, if ChartTrack doesnt count digital downloads their numbers mean literally nothing. considering about 50% of games are sold digitally and its taking the market share that was hardcopies. theres also piracy which is rising apparently. and its flawed in the first place because the number of new games being bought isnt a good way to calculate the number of people playing any pc game, specially with the increase of pay to play games with new content like WoW.

its like saying music is dying cause no one buys CD's at HMV anymore.
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Thu, 02 September 2010, 13:30:34
it is a good analogy because it shows a decline yet we KNOW the amount of people who listen to music has actually grown :)
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Thu, 02 September 2010, 14:10:16
sick song
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Thu, 02 September 2010, 14:12:26
oh its possible to press/use 7+ keys by the way

you can press 2 keys with the same finger, like that guy said. in MOHAA to be any good you need to press a strafe and lean key at the same time.
technically you could do like forward, strafe, lean, use, reload, walk, crouch, jump (w, a, q, f, r, shift, ctrl, space)
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Thu, 02 September 2010, 14:30:48
nose & tongue, learn 2 play
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Thu, 02 September 2010, 14:43:41
is it bad that ive played that stepmania song over 20 times?
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ricercar on Thu, 02 September 2010, 20:42:46
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2010/03/31fingerstoes.jpg)
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: ricercar on Thu, 02 September 2010, 20:46:31
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNM0E6oFNXXrXQf72NH_E--EyOyJBoNioqKajb1ZLA6DG9_dU&t=1&usg=__k4bcCM2XcL2d9RXia6NthHPc8jo=)
Title: Zowie introduces Celeritas mechanical keyboard
Post by: obsolete on Sat, 04 September 2010, 05:49:47
try Alabama