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Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: SmallWalrus on Wed, 25 August 2010, 20:39:16
Which of these two keyboards will you prefer for general typing tasks, and in general?

I've been pondering about the differences of these two 'boards and I do gravitate a bit more towards the Steelseries, because that supposedly has a metallic chassis. Perhaps someone who has touched one in real life might be able to comment on whether that genuinely contributes to the "heft" of the keyboard and overall build quality, or if it was a marketing gimmick?
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: Arc'xer on Wed, 25 August 2010, 21:37:24
Steelseries is just a branding name ironically the same kind of thinking has persisted since the company opened up. Many people think their mouse pads and their offerings have steel in them they don't.

The only metal is the back plate for the switches.

But all the SS G-type(6/2, 7) are linear mx black, while razer seems to be offering blues apparently.
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: Zen on Thu, 26 August 2010, 11:56:33
You should try both if possible, they are VERY different boards,
steelseries has linear 70 grams activation-force and 4mm actuation,
the razor tactile 50 grams and 2mm .
If you are used to a clicky-board you may
easily dislike typing on linear switches, but they are great for gaming IMO

No, the steelseries boards don't have metal-chassis, but they are heavy and stiff .
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: SidiMye on Thu, 26 August 2010, 12:19:32
The Steelseries 6GV2 maybe doesn't have a steel chassis but the plastic used is really sturdy and thick like it could take a punch, I've opened up this thing multiple times now and its really well made. Types good also after a less then a month of use, and for games its great..
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: washuai on Thu, 26 August 2010, 15:16:51
Quote from: Zen;216914
You should try both if possible, they are VERY different boards,
steelseries has linear 70 grams activation-force and 4mm actuation,
the razor tactile 50 grams and 2mm .
If you are used to a clicky-board you may
easily dislike typing on linear switches, but they are great for gaming IMO

No, the steelseries boards don't have metal-chassis, but they are heavy and stiff .

Cherry blacks (steel series) actuate at 2mm, just like cherry blues (blackwidow), but both can go full 4mm of travel.  Refer to the wiki article (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Cherry+switches+and+boards), for your switch info.

Blues versus blacks for typing- I'd have to go with blues, tactile, clicky and lower force.  I wouldn't avoid a board with blacks, but it wouldn't be my daily driver for non-gaming.

If you want luxury aluminum, check this thread (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=9730&highlight=aluminum+case).  The $500 proposed price tag, is a good example of how you know the steelseries doesn't pack steel.
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: lmnop on Thu, 26 August 2010, 16:30:16
i-Rocks KR-6250 has a steel casing.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2mo5so8.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/t5io20.jpg)

the prototype has PCB mounted Cherry MX Red Linear switches but all translations indicate the final product will have Cherry MX Black Linear switches.
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: lmnop on Thu, 26 August 2010, 16:36:18
i-Rocks KR-6250 has a steel casing.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2mo5so8.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/t5io20.jpg)

if you doubt it's steel.

(http://img.iqmore.com/iqmoreidv_img/Computer_Show/Computex/Computex_2010/Computex2010_i-rocks/13.JPG)

someone at Computex scratched it good.
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: lmnop on Thu, 26 August 2010, 16:57:40
i-Rocks KR-6250 has a steel casing.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2mo5so8.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/t5io20.jpg)

someone at Computex scratched it good.

(http://img.iqmore.com/iqmoreidv_img/Computer_Show/Computex/Computex_2010/Computex2010_i-rocks/13.JPG)
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: AvengeR on Thu, 26 August 2010, 17:00:51
gamers tend to think they need "gaming grade" products to be able to play the way it should be, or get better at it.

Don't look there if you want a good kb, peripheral or anything really, besides few exceptions.

(on the other hand I use a qck heavy mousepad, but in the end its just a regular oversized cloth mousepad and that could be better)
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: lmnop on Thu, 26 August 2010, 17:16:31
Quote from: AvengeR;217032
gamers tend to think they need "gaming grade" products to be able to play the way it should be, or get better at it.

Don't look there if you want a good kb, peripheral or anything really, besides few exceptions.

(on the other hand I use a qck heavy mousepad, but in the end its just a regular oversized cloth mousepad and that could be better)


I don't think they know the materials that make up a keyboard. I don't think they even care.
Title: Steelseries 6Gv2 vs Razer Blackwidow
Post by: lmnop on Thu, 26 August 2010, 17:34:51
Quote from: AvengeR;217032
gamers tend to think they need "gaming grade" products to be able to play the way it should be, or get better at it.

Don't look there if you want a good kb, peripheral or anything really, besides few exceptions.

(on the other hand I use a qck heavy mousepad, but in the end its just a regular oversized cloth mousepad and that could be better)

I don't think they know the materials that make up a keyboard. I don't think they even care.

last week I was trying to convert someone and he said something like "PBT, ABS I don't care as long as the plastic holds it." after I managed to stop fantasizing about choking him I said "..." and posted this video.