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Title: [IC] GMK Tiel
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:18:59


Imgur Album (https://imgur.com/a/fyhyheG)

(https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png)

IC Form (https://forms.gle/TfS4BpVnVfWuTnH27)

This keycap set exclusively uses stock GMK colors
- Grey: 2B
- Yellow: N6
- Red: P6
After doing some research, I found that the grey and yellow are the same as GMK Lunar. I encourage people to look at that set's renders and compare colors.

(https://i.imgur.com/bXqJQ8n.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZfZN17W.jpg)

Thanks to Kingk22 for the renders!

Inspiration:
I have a pet cockatiel named Archie (here's to all you Watchmen fans viewing this), and though her colors aren't the standard mutation, I still very much enjoy the colors of a normal cockatiel.
(https://i.imgur.com/x1SGep5.jpg)
Standard Cockatiel
(https://i.imgur.com/RqamJyH.jpg)
Archie

Kits:

Base
(https://i.imgur.com/jymK58o.jpg)

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/Tq8H5TS.jpg)

Spacebars
(https://i.imgur.com/mUth5ts.jpg)

40's
(https://i.imgur.com/qjaBKqb.jpg)

Vendors:
USA: Vala Supply
China: zFrontier
UK: THE KEYCAP CLUB
Rest of World: TBD


To-Do:
- Gauge Interest
- Determine International Vendors
- Get More Board Renders
- Begin Collabs (if in demand)
- Gather Suggestions
- Revisions Based On Suggestions
- Determine Pricing
- Set Group Buy Date


Changelog:
- IC Launched
- Initial Base kitting fixes: Alice B and F13 added
- More kitting fixes planned out, waiting on response from Vendor to hear what they think
- Kitting fixes approved, having new renders made to reflect said changes
- zFrontier is now the official China vendor for GMK Tiel
- THE KEYCAP CLUB is now the official UK vendor for GMK Tiel




(https://i.imgur.com/FL0iEX5.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:23:46
Geekhack must not like SVG files, so here's the banner and the last image as a PNG.
Figured out how to modify. Very used to reddit, appreciate everyone's patience with me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Alejo1707 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:24:13
Thanks for the fix, but those images are still not up to the challenge. I do not like the color palette, but I can tell you that you will still get some mad replies for those small pics.

Also, as I point out to many other niche colored sets, why GMK? Wait times are 3 years from now and you have the option to run it on ePBT, KAM, or any other more affordable manu, which might even improve in delivery times.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:27:49
Thanks for the fix, but those images are still not up to the challenge. I do not like the color palette, but I can tell you that you will still get some mad replies for those small pics.

Also, as I point out to many other niche colored sets, why GMK? Wait times are 3 years from now and you have the option to run it on ePBT, KAM, or any other more affordable manu, which might even improve in delivery times.

As far as I know, the only company with reverse dye sub capabilities is Infinikey, and due to their history of having terrible color matching capabilities, I've come to the conclusion that GMK is the best bet, despite the lengthened wait times.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hali on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:28:06
kitting needs work
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:29:52
kitting needs work

I would love to hear your suggestions (preferably in the IC form's suggestion box)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Alejo1707 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:36:57
Thanks for the fix, but those images are still not up to the challenge. I do not like the color palette, but I can tell you that you will still get some mad replies for those small pics.

Also, as I point out to many other niche colored sets, why GMK? Wait times are 3 years from now and you have the option to run it on ePBT, KAM, or any other more affordable manu, which might even improve in delivery times.

As far as I know, the only company with reverse dye sub capabilities is Infinikey, and due to their history of having terrible color matching capabilities, I've come to the conclusion that GMK is the best bet, despite the lengthened wait times.

I am no expert on those topics I admit, but I do believe that if we push IFK enough, they will improve! If I recall correctly, Mech Merlin was satisfied with how the Port turned out, and one has to consider that IFK sets are way cheaper than GMK, which brings out my second point, is your set worth 120 USD (at minimum) to the majority of us enthusiasts? I don't think so, but then again, I think the same of Handerbeit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:41:14
I would love to hear your suggestions (preferably in the IC form's suggestion box)
Dunno what's with the accent num
Could use f13
Remove the 40s kit
add 1u cntrl and alt to base
iso is wrong
mod pipe but no mod tilde
prolly can remove the stepped control
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:42:55
Having troubles still with images, my sincerest apologies to everyone. I am going to create an Imgur album and upload that way, as I cannot seem to get this to work.
Imgur album created and added to original post.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:52:02
Thanks for the fix, but those images are still not up to the challenge. I do not like the color palette, but I can tell you that you will still get some mad replies for those small pics.

Also, as I point out to many other niche colored sets, why GMK? Wait times are 3 years from now and you have the option to run it on ePBT, KAM, or any other more affordable manu, which might even improve in delivery times.

As far as I know, the only company with reverse dye sub capabilities is Infinikey, and due to their history of having terrible color matching capabilities, I've come to the conclusion that GMK is the best bet, despite the lengthened wait times.

I am no expert on those topics I admit, but I do believe that if we push IFK enough, they will improve! If I recall correctly, Mech Merlin was satisfied with how the Port turned out, and one has to consider that IFK sets are way cheaper than GMK, which brings out my second point, is your set worth 120 USD (at minimum) to the majority of us enthusiasts? I don't think so, but then again, I think the same of Handerbeit.

I would love to be able to use IFK (I prefer PBT over ABS myself, in fact), but considering how much of an outcry there already has been, I have no idea what it would take for them to actually listen and represent their keysets better in renders. Therefore, for the sake of customer satisfaction, I believe GMK is the best path forward, for now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: arq1999 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:53:21
Having troubles still with images, my sincerest apologies to everyone. I am going to create an Imgur album and upload that way, as I cannot seem to get this to work.
Imgur album created and added to original post.
Try this man
Code: [Select]
[Img]urlimgur[/img]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:54:54
Having troubles still with images, my sincerest apologies to everyone. I am going to create an Imgur album and upload that way, as I cannot seem to get this to work.
Imgur album created and added to original post.
Try this man
Code: [Select]
[Img]urlimgur[/img]

You're awesome, thank you
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: arq1999 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 16:59:51
Im surprice that no one gave you this simple code. Smh. No problems my dude. Let me know if you need anything else. Cute set. Bird set designers should stick together haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Alejo1707 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:01:56
Thanks for the fix, but those images are still not up to the challenge. I do not like the color palette, but I can tell you that you will still get some mad replies for those small pics.

Also, as I point out to many other niche colored sets, why GMK? Wait times are 3 years from now and you have the option to run it on ePBT, KAM, or any other more affordable manu, which might even improve in delivery times.

As far as I know, the only company with reverse dye sub capabilities is Infinikey, and due to their history of having terrible color matching capabilities, I've come to the conclusion that GMK is the best bet, despite the lengthened wait times.

I am no expert on those topics I admit, but I do believe that if we push IFK enough, they will improve! If I recall correctly, Mech Merlin was satisfied with how the Port turned out, and one has to consider that IFK sets are way cheaper than GMK, which brings out my second point, is your set worth 120 USD (at minimum) to the majority of us enthusiasts? I don't think so, but then again, I think the same of Handerbeit.

I would love to be able to use IFK (I prefer PBT over ABS myself, in fact), but considering how much of an outcry there already has been, I have no idea what it would take for them to actually listen and represent their keysets better in renders. Therefore, for the sake of customer satisfaction, I believe GMK is the best path forward, for now.

I can understand that concern, but considering IFK is working now with more vendors (I don't recall which one exactly) besides TKC, and they are providing pictures instead of renders, gives me peace of mind. I am waiting for IFK Comfy and Morse for reference :P
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Faceman76 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:05:31
The pics were working...

Great, another kit I never imagined I'd want...

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:07:56
Is it really so hard to quote other ICs and steal borrow their bbcode? This IC looks even more scuffed than it should because the bbcode is a mess.

As far as the set goes, the colors just aren't for me. I have no idea who would want an accent num on their numpad, that's unique I guess. The novelties leave a lot to be desired and either the lighting is scuffed or those keys are floating in the kit renders.

This IC is more baked than the RAW ICs we see with felder files, but it's still goey in the middle. Please put your IC back in the oven and finish baking this so I have something more finished to evaluate whether I'm interested in purchasing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:13:37
Can't see on mobile. But please don't make a 3rd thread. My bots just can't take it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:25:00
Is it really so hard to quote other ICs and steal borrow their bbcode?

Great Idea!

Are the images showing up okay for people now?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: arq1999 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:35:39
try this. Right now you are copying the album link. Right click the picture in the imgur link, then open in a new tab. Copy that link and it should work. the difference is basically this:
Picture Link:
https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png

Album Link:
https://imgur.com/unHiKVB

You want the Picture Link
Code: [Select]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png[/img]

(https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:43:37
try this. Right now you are copying the album link. Right click the picture in the imgur link, then open in a new tab. Copy that link and it should work. the difference is basically this:
Picture Link:
https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png

Album Link:
https://imgur.com/unHiKVB

You want the Picture Link
Code: [Select]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png[/img]

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unHiKVB.png)


Done, you're great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Faceman76 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:44:22
Much better.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 17:45:25
Much better.

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Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hayasaka on Tue, 29 June 2021, 18:03:14
I do agree with the other comments saying it does need work, especially for a GMK set. I'll fill out the IC form!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Ashen_21 on Tue, 29 June 2021, 18:15:15
The theming of this set is super cute! Filled out IC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Dazon on Tue, 29 June 2021, 22:35:07
sure the ic could use some work around the edges, but im in love with the colors and theme, glwic!

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: genevatypes on Wed, 30 June 2021, 02:04:44
cute bird dude!!! loving the colors, the gray is surprisingly too loud for me comparing to the yellow. maybe mute the gray a little bit more? all up to you! love the inspiration and colors for this set  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Neely_12 on Wed, 30 June 2021, 07:10:08
I think a lighter grey would make this set look a lot better. Also please add f13 into base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: Darthbaggins on Wed, 30 June 2021, 07:46:30
My sister-inlaw would love this kit as she is a bird nut (has 2 Tiel's, 2 Conure's, and a flock of parakeets). 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: nvh2092 on Wed, 30 June 2021, 08:41:53
The base kit lacks a mod color F13, mod tilde, R4 1u ctrl, R4 1u Alt.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel - FIXED IMAGES
Post by: hashbrown565 on Wed, 30 June 2021, 14:07:05
The base kit lacks a mod color F13, mod tilde, R4 1u ctrl, R4 1u Alt.

There actually is a mod tilde key, right next to the mod esc. Rest are being implemented.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel
Post by: charli3b on Tue, 06 July 2021, 10:49:27
If you're in need of a UK Vendor give me a DM on here or on instagram @thekeycapclub
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 06 July 2021, 18:02:42
Your base kit contains some unnecessary keys, namely R3 1u #~ and R4 1u \|.
You can remove them and in their place add R4 1u Ctrl and Alt, which are required for covering some 40%, 60%, 65%, 75% and 1800/CP layouts. If you check, you'll see that pretty much every set includes these keys.

I think that stepped R3 1.75u Control and R4 2u Shift aren't worth including, as the use cases for these keys are fringe at best.
In their place, I suggest adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for covering popular 65% layouts and other layouts that use a right column.

Another consideration would be adding two R4 1.5u OS keys and a second R4 1u Alt key for users of OG HHKB and Mac bottom rows. But this is not a must.

The R1 1u \| key should be gray instead of yellow.

As far as legends go, you should probably change that Menu key to Fn, as the latter is a more common, useful and versatile legend.
I'm personally not a huge fan of Code, as it doesn't make a lot of sense as an OS key legend imo, but I realize that this is down to personal preference.

The NumLk accent doesn't really work, imo. Consider dropping that.

The other kits have some issues too, but I think this is a good starting point.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Tiel
Post by: SwirlCables on Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:01:29
diggin the novelties!