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Title: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: proboy84 on Sat, 03 July 2021, 11:49:44

Me (Proji) & AMPi.KB Here to present to you with

(https://i.imgur.com/7ZlBZli.jpg)

55565

IC Form | https://forms.gle/9zQAATEtTQJXTzXS9 (https://forms.gle/9zQAATEtTQJXTzXS9)
Keeblook Discord | https://discord.gg/vxVmTTZxdQ (https://discord.gg/vxVmTTZxdQ)
AMPi.KB Discord | https://discord.gg/gUaU6QuPsb (https://discord.gg/gUaU6QuPsb)

(https://i.imgur.com/3qVaTvU.jpg)

ONE TRAY CASE

(https://i.imgur.com/F5dVyLR.jpg)

LITTLE TWIST BLOCKER
(Note: It comes with an option for those interesting in minimal style. that you can remove the engraving from the blocker)

(https://i.imgur.com/WRYL0xV.jpg)

Plate (Support 6.25/7u Spacebar, Stepped Caps Locks, Split Backspace)

(https://i.imgur.com/OtM3acc.jpg)

2 in 1 mount (O-ring gasket mount + Bottom Mount)

(https://i.imgur.com/vi65pHm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/o0A2KOc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8MyhmYc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/imwH398.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ing4lWa.gif)

SPECS
Typing angle: 6.5°
Case Material: 6063/6061 Aluminium (TBD)
Mounting system: O-ring Gasket / Bottom mount
Plate: Alu / FR4 TBD
PCB: Hot-Swap 6.25u Layout only (based on IC in Thailand, We will add solderable PCB option If we got enough feedback from IC form)+ daughterboard. QMK & VIA compatible PCB by Mechlovin.
Colors: Dark Grey, Crimson Red, Lilac, Navy Blue (3 colors for GB, TBD)
Feet: AEBoards Feet

PRICE
(250 USD targeting price)

BACKGROUND
55565 is our first keyboard project designed by AMPi.KB and I, Which we aim to create a budget 65% Keyboard that has some hybrid mounting methods.

FUN FACT
This keyboard called "55565". The name came from how Thai people laughing in letters (555 means hahaha or lol). To be honest, we are just blanking out when comes to name this design so Ampi.Kb just asking his friend to name it for him. He was trying to troll him with this name with how Thai people mistook press 6 while repeatedly typing 5. So, It became 55565 which perfectly combined 555 with 65% Layout.

RENDER

Navy Blue
(https://i.imgur.com/rnr5afT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JhOjPpH.jpg)
Lilac
(https://i.imgur.com/F4McvQQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Va180gG.jpg)
Dark Grey
(https://i.imgur.com/OuyZS1S.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZWjciBD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ir0CS4Z.jpg)
Red
(https://i.imgur.com/LeRG2QV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B55xtfG.jpg)

PROTOTYPE
First Prototype: The first three prototypes came from a different manufacturer.
Round 1 includes Lilac, Red, Dark grey anodized keyboard.
with Alu plate and 1.5 mm thickness mocking PCB (our actual PCB didn't arrive yet which will be1.6 mm)
For Bottom Mount, We have tested leaf spring flex cut. The typing experience was consistent across the entire board. The sound and feel also are amazing especially, the spacebar area which has a leaf spring and 55565 relief cut.
For O-ring Gasket Mount, We have tested with 3.5 mm Diameter O-ring with the different shore. The alpha's sound and feel were great but between the test typing, we confront a noise from Loosen mocking PCB whose cut is greater than the actual PCB.

Images:

(https://i.imgur.com/gU3kkBO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cCbvjcW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wj4r7ee.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IwnRnan.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DatucbZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fCyf8od.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rHrQZxV.jpg)

Special Thanks:
Geonworks for Keyboard Design instruct videos
GoneHackingStudio for an advice for Manufacture
Mechlovin for PCB design
Pwade3c for GMK Analog Dream
NovaRMK for GMK Lychee
Kingk22 for GMK TeraDrive
MakerKeyboard for inspired us to make this keyboard and suggested on O-ring and design
AEBoard for allows us to use the feet

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: proboy84 on Sat, 03 July 2021, 11:52:21

5/7/21
- Add Plate Render
- Add more mounting render

23/7/21
Updates:
- We are waiting for proto PCB from mechlovin right now to do a final testing.
- Second proto will be made after we test everything and make change with the 3d drawing.
- We will try other Plate and Case materials on second proto (PC,Brass for SE?)
- Solder PCB will be available

Known Issues:
- Inner space of the case is too wide. We will make some change on case and plate after we test with actual PCB
- We might make some change on bottom mounting point since the screw hole ledge is to narrow for the spacer or oring

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Sat, 03 July 2021, 11:53:04

Hi guys, My name is Aom (AMPi.KB) from Bangkok, Thailand
This is my first keyboard design. We design 55565 to be the experimental case for the newcomer that recently growth in this hobby.
Testing, building, and modding your own case is what I enjoyed when I started a hobby.
But now my end-game is designing and making my own case. 55565 is just the beginning. :-*

Thanks to GEONWORKS Youtube Channel / Discord: Keyboard Atelier and Everyone who helps me along the way.

If you're interested in designing a keyboard and my other project.
My discord is always welcome.
https://discord.gg/MXT5Kmg2Zf (https://discord.gg/MXT5Kmg2Zf)

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Alessio on Sat, 03 July 2021, 12:10:20

Very clean take on a relatively simple case design, I like that you'll have an option without front engraving. The mounting on the tray/bottom mount reminds me of the Flamingo which Geon designed which I've been very interested in trying, on top of how you did the internal ledge makes me assume you based the internals off that while also adding your own contributions. The fact that it's designed to also allow for o ring mount is a very big plus for me in a market flooded with poron "gasket" 65s.

Getting prototypes from multiple different manufacturers is also something I don't see get done often enough sadly, so big props on you for getting that done. If it's sold at $250~ after thorough prototyping I'll probably grab one to try out the mounting.

Overall, interesting project that I'll be sure to keep an eye on, good job.

(Praying for Lilac :p )

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: honoka on Sat, 03 July 2021, 12:46:26

I like the mounting options and ability to remove the front blocker engraving. Color options are solid aswell.

I would like to see solderable pcb options with more layout support though.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Sat, 03 July 2021, 13:00:00

Like the simple design. Would like to see some typing tests if possible with different switches and maybe a second plate option. I prefere PC over FR4 though.

GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 03 July 2021, 18:36:04

Dual mount so hot right now

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Baka Bot on Sat, 03 July 2021, 20:24:27

do you have a picture of the plate, I would like to see the mounting holes for the bottom mount a bit more closely? other than that glwic!

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:31:11

How does one take it out with the gummy mount?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:56:58

Quote from: Alessio01 on Sat, 03 July 2021, 12:10:20

Very clean take on a relatively simple case design, I like that you'll have an option without front engraving. The mounting on the tray/bottom mount reminds me of the Flamingo which Geon designed which I've been very interested in trying, on top of how you did the internal ledge makes me assume you based the internals off that while also adding your own contributions. The fact that it's designed to also allow for o ring mount is a very big plus for me in a market flooded with poron "gasket" 65s.

Getting prototypes from multiple different manufacturers is also something I don't see get done often enough sadly, so big props on you for getting that done. If it's sold at $250~ after thorough prototyping I'll probably grab one to try out the mounting.

Overall, interesting project that I'll be sure to keep an eye on, good job.

(Praying for Lilac :p )

Yeah :thumb: As you can see in the Special Thanks section, Geonworks is the first name.
When I started design 55565 I was always looking up for Geonworks (Special thanks to him) Flamingo 60 vdo for reference on leaf spring bottom mount likes that and want to combine it with o-ring design together as improvement in design.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Leo66 on Sun, 04 July 2021, 02:28:40

Reserve

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: flying1911 on Sun, 04 July 2021, 12:23:23

Congrats! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: hzsh on Sun, 04 July 2021, 14:30:55

The different color options are great to see for sure. Why 6.25 only though? I do really like the engraving at the bottom, it's both unique and clean enough to be a good addition to the board imo. Price is also quite competitive, GLWIC!

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: nxxinf on Sun, 04 July 2021, 14:48:48

That purple/lilac color looks great! Will there be a NA/US/Canada vendor

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sun, 04 July 2021, 14:56:58

Kinda looks like a tofu.
Cool pricing tho

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: catamscott on Sun, 04 July 2021, 15:03:13

design looks nice, mounting looks good, and price is awesome, but no solderable pcb is a big bummer. otherwise looks really good! :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: EnlargedCrouton on Sun, 04 July 2021, 18:53:21

love the lilac color, and the mounting system is quite unique and intriguing

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: proboy84 on Mon, 05 July 2021, 11:08:43

Quote from: flying1911 on Sun, 04 July 2021, 12:23:23

Congrats! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Thank bro, Can't wait to the test with the PCB ;D ;D

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: proboy84 on Mon, 05 July 2021, 11:11:05

Quote from: hzsh on Sun, 04 July 2021, 14:30:55

The different color options are great to see for sure. Why 6.25 only though? I do really like the engraving at the bottom, it's both unique and clean enough to be a good addition to the board imo. Price is also quite competitive, GLWIC!

Most of the Specs here are based IC in Thailand. If we got enough interests here we will definitely add solder PCB to support more layout and also colors.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Mon, 05 July 2021, 22:59:24

Will the bottom mount standoffs interfere/touch the plate if you opt for the oring gasket mount?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:37:47

Quote from: jabe8i on Mon, 05 July 2021, 22:59:24

Will the bottom mount standoffs interfere/touch the plate if you opt for the oring gasket mount?

No, it won't touch the stand off (if the force applied was regular typing). On the other hand, if I press it too hard intentionally it will contact the standoff.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:42:40

Quote from: ampi.kb on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:37:47

Quote from: jabe8i on Mon, 05 July 2021, 22:59:24
Will the bottom mount standoffs interfere/touch the plate if you opt for the oring gasket mount?

No, it won't touch the stand off (if the force applied was regular typing). On the other hand, if I press it too hard intentionally it will contact the standoff.

does this mean that the pcb will sit slightly lower when you use bottom mount?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:46:54

Quote from: jabe8i on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:42:40

Quote from: ampi.kb on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:37:47
Quote from: jabe8i on Mon, 05 July 2021, 22:59:24
Will the bottom mount standoffs interfere/touch the plate if you opt for the oring gasket mount?

No, it won't touch the stand off (if the force applied was regular typing). On the other hand, if I press it too hard intentionally it will contact the standoff.

does this mean that the pcb will sit slightly lower when you use bottom mount?

Based on the cross section pics it looks like a washer is used to keep them at the same height

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Tue, 06 July 2021, 07:55:11

Quote from: Zeelobby on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:46:54

Quote from: jabe8i on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:42:40
Quote from: ampi.kb on Tue, 06 July 2021, 06:37:47
Quote from: jabe8i on Mon, 05 July 2021, 22:59:24
Will the bottom mount standoffs interfere/touch the plate if you opt for the oring gasket mount?

No, it won't touch the stand off (if the force applied was regular typing). On the other hand, if I press it too hard intentionally it will contact the standoff.

does this mean that the pcb will sit slightly lower when you use bottom mount?
Based on the cross section pics it looks like a washer is used to keep them at the same height

Yes, In cross-section we are using a washer to lift up a plate but you can use 1 mm thickness oring as well.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: nickthaskater on Thu, 08 July 2021, 01:53:47

I love this. My wife is Thai so this is the perfect way to excuse buying an expensive metal rectangle.

I like the 555 blocker. It adds character in a sea of lookalike cases.

Would be great to be able to run bottom mount plateless, although having PC or POM half plate options is a decent alternative.

Nice to have the O ring option, too!

I'm super into this if it can be had to Canada for reasonable shipping or through a local vendor like Ashkeebs or Alphakeys.

What is your estimated buy date and fulfillment date?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Tue, 13 July 2021, 13:18:19

Whats shipping possibly going to cost? will there be vendors for other regions (im guessing you're based in asia)?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: Neely_12 on Tue, 13 July 2021, 13:41:47

is there a proof of concept for the mounting, or since you have a prototype can we get a irl demonstration/typing/flext test?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Tue, 13 July 2021, 19:45:26

"555"

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Wed, 14 July 2021, 08:12:42

Quote from: jabe8i on Tue, 13 July 2021, 13:18:19

Whats shipping possibly going to cost? will there be vendors for other regions (im guessing you're based in asia)?

Yes, we are based in Thailand (South East Asia). The vendor will be announced in near future.
Thanks for interested in our 55565.

Quote from: Neely_12 on Tue, 13 July 2021, 13:41:47

is there a proof of concept for the mounting, or since you have a prototype can we get a irl demonstration/typing/flext test?

We are waiting for the real PCB prototype which will arrive in 1-2 weeks. Currently, we are using the mocking PCB which is looser than the actual product. We are going to make the typing test video as accurate as possible when it comes.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Wed, 14 July 2021, 08:20:49

Quote from: ampi.kb on Wed, 14 July 2021, 08:12:42

Quote from: jabe8i on Tue, 13 July 2021, 13:18:19
Whats shipping possibly going to cost? will there be vendors for other regions (im guessing you're based in asia)?

Yes, we are based in Thailand (South East Asia). The vendor will be announced in near future.
Thanks for interested in our 55565.

Nice, I'm in SEA too. I'm hoping the shipping won't be crazy.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: mcmcmc on Sun, 18 July 2021, 09:54:06

this **** it cool af

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: leifsi on Tue, 20 July 2021, 18:59:05

Does it support screw in stabilizers when using the o-ring mounting style?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Thu, 22 July 2021, 01:21:14

Quote from: leifsi on Tue, 20 July 2021, 18:59:05

Does it support screw in stabilizers when using the o-ring mounting style?

Of course.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Thu, 22 July 2021, 05:35:06

Quote from: ampi.kb on Thu, 22 July 2021, 01:21:14

Quote from: leifsi on Tue, 20 July 2021, 18:59:05
Does it support screw in stabilizers when using the o-ring mounting style?

Of course.

Can we see that in action? I believe the bakeneko doesn't support screw-ins for the spacebar and the backspace.

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Fri, 23 July 2021, 09:53:20

Quote from: jabe8i on Thu, 22 July 2021, 05:35:06

Quote from: ampi.kb on Thu, 22 July 2021, 01:21:14
Quote from: leifsi on Tue, 20 July 2021, 18:59:05
Does it support screw in stabilizers when using the o-ring mounting style?

Of course.
Can we see that in action? I believe the bakeneko doesn't support screw-ins for the spacebar and the backspace.

With Durock Stabilizers.
(https://i.imgur.com/bpzPjZb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KlZhcOY.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Fri, 23 July 2021, 22:28:07

Quote from: ampi.kb on Fri, 23 July 2021, 09:53:20

With Durock Stabilizers.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bpzPjZb.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KlZhcOY.jpg)

Cool! I didn't notice the cut outs on the plates for more room in the stabilizers

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: mangostan on Wed, 28 July 2021, 22:40:44

i love the purple! :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: conternecticus on Mon, 02 August 2021, 12:51:52

I'd love to see Dark Purple become a real option! Any sound test with prototype video?

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: ampi.kb on Sat, 07 August 2021, 11:30:50

Quote from: conternecticus on Mon, 02 August 2021, 12:51:52

I'd love to see Dark Purple become a real option! Any sound test with prototype video?

There is! but It's not an official one yet need to fix some internal flaws before we order the next round of prototypes, Please check out in our discord channel ;D ;D ;D

Keeblook: https://discord.com/invite/vxVmTTZxdQ
AMPi.KB: https://discord.com/invite/MXT5Kmg2Zf

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: conternecticus on Sat, 07 August 2021, 11:55:58

Quote from: ampi.kb on Sat, 07 August 2021, 11:30:50

Quote from: conternecticus on Mon, 02 August 2021, 12:51:52
I'd love to see Dark Purple become a real option! Any sound test with prototype video?

There is! but It's not an official one yet need to fix some internal flaws before we order the next round of prototypes, Please check out in our discord channel ;D ;D ;D

Keeblook: https://discord.com/invite/vxVmTTZxdQ
AMPi.KB: https://discord.com/invite/MXT5Kmg2Zf

This is the greatest news I've heard all day! Looking forward to the dark purple prototype! :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] 55565 - 65% O-ring Gasket + Bottom Mount
Post by: jabe8i on Tue, 05 October 2021, 23:03:36

Any updates on this?