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Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Fri, 27 August 2010, 22:26:52
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390228430958

I am hoping these are clears or browns.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: ironman31 on Fri, 27 August 2010, 23:44:01
I actually just asked the seller to post a pic, but I guess I'll find out what it looks like when you receive it, lol. And I'm not sure what switches it has, but I don't think they are browns.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Sat, 28 August 2010, 07:19:59
My money is on clears- just hope it's not black.  But for 23$ shipped, it was worth it to find out.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 28 August 2010, 09:48:43
I wouldn't worry. I am sure that it is a LUVEUly keyboard, either way.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 28 August 2010, 14:55:11
That's a true thing to be said, don't worry, just be thankful. It will be good either way.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 11:01:30
The good news:
it has brown switches (but the space bar is a grey switch)
it appears to be new as advertised

The bad news:
when I plug it in, it seems like the space bar is stuck on.  I can press backspace and the repeated spaces stop, but press another key and they start back up again.  Is that a driver issue by any chance?

Here are the pics:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12320&stc=1&d=1283443185)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12321&stc=1&d=1283443185)
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: didjamatic on Thu, 02 September 2010, 11:57:29
Pop the space bar carefully and see if the switch is stuck or if something is in it.  It could also be something touching contacts behind the PCB.  Like a piece of foil wrapper.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 11:59:15
Definitely not a mechanical issue.  It goes up and down just fine....  Urgh I bet I am going to have to take this thing apart.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: didjamatic on Thu, 02 September 2010, 12:04:02
Just because it goes up and down doesn't mean it's just fine.  

You might have something in the switch that is making contact, or something on the PCB.  it's probably an easy fix and disassembling that board is a piece of cake, it might not even require tools on that case.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 12:15:34
Okay, I checked aquakeytest, and the results are interesting.

Resting, it registers as ON.
If i push down space a little bit, it registers as OFF.
If I push it down beyond the tactile point, it registers as ON.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 12:19:22
Is there any way to tell?  The switch itself is grey.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 12:23:41
That assumption is correct...
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 12:27:11
Here it is:
Thanks for the help!
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12332&d=1283448373)
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Thu, 02 September 2010, 13:04:04
It's the switch that's bad.  Rocking it side to side even a tiny bit causes the state to toggle.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: ricercar on Thu, 02 September 2010, 18:37:52
if you need a replacement MX brown, PM ripster.





or me.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Fri, 03 September 2010, 07:56:01
I took the switch apart and ruined it :(   So now, it looks like I am going to have to desolder.

Subjectively, this keyboard doesn't feel nearly as nice to type on as the Filco with the same switches, and it's certainly cheaper in terms of construction.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Fri, 03 September 2010, 08:03:13
Hey, is there any way to remove the metal leaf from a switch w/o desoldering the switch from the board?  I have an entire top row of keys on this thing I could use to swap.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Fri, 03 September 2010, 20:27:52
I am happy to report that I desoldered a switch from the useless top row and swapped it with the space bar switch and it was pretty simple to do.  I am typing on the board now.  I wanted a brown in the space bar anyway :)

The quality difference between this and my filco is absolutely huge, though, and this one will go back in the box and serve as a backup/collector item only.

Thanks guys for the help!
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: Infinite north on Fri, 03 September 2010, 21:21:55
Keep the grey stem, that is a clear stem in a different color. it's a good reminder in case you want one down the line, the only difference is the spring. I personally like the cherry build quality myself. I am guessing that you like the plate mounted switches more than pcb mounted.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: MissileMike on Fri, 03 September 2010, 22:51:51
Exactly.  The plate mounting feels a lot more solid to me.  Don't get me wrong, it's still better than most keyboards out there by a mile.  

I also didn't know that grey stem was a clear- definitely takes more force.
Title: What did I just buy? (Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2)
Post by: Infinite north on Fri, 03 September 2010, 23:44:37
The tactile bump is the same, not the force. cherry spacebar switches are always heavier.