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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: rlm80 on Sat, 28 August 2010, 07:29:42

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: rlm80 on Sat, 28 August 2010, 07:29:42

Those seem to be about the lightest switches at the moment.

How do they compare ? Which feels lightest ?

thx

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: HaaTa on Sat, 28 August 2010, 11:53:01

Well, since I'm probably the only member with both boards, I guess I'd be qualified to answer :P

The Topre is definitely lighter. However, as it's tactile, the subjective weight is fairly close.

If you tend to bottom out, then the Topre will quieter, as the MX Reds tend to "clack" and the Realforce, "thock".


Given the choice between the MX Reds and Topre 30g, given how prices are atm, I'd choose the Topre. However, if you can find an MX Red board for under $100 (I've seen them as low as $45 new, but that's unlikely to happen again) then it would be my first choice.

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: rlm80 on Sat, 28 August 2010, 12:58:52

Thank you.

...and how would you describe the actuation point ? Which of those switches require the less travel distance to activate ?

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: rlm80 on Sat, 28 August 2010, 13:27:00

Thank you. Looks like the Topre are the ones I need. Now to find a reliable and simple way to have such a thing shipped to Europe.........

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 28 August 2010, 13:29:11

Quote from: rlm80;217631

Thank you. Looks like the Topre are the ones I need. Now to find a reliable and simple way to have such a thing shipped to Europe.........

Apparently the Keyboard Company (UK) is going to stock Topre soon...

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: rlm80 on Mon, 30 August 2010, 02:30:57

okay...in other words it's near impossible...red cherries, here I come...

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: PAINKILLER on Mon, 30 August 2010, 02:58:41

Quote from: ripster;217628

But if you just jam the keys then the area of the curve under the force chart (W=FxD) determines total energy expended.

You are just confusing them, you mean the integral of the function :D

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 30 August 2010, 04:58:43

Bare in mind that Red Cherry switches are 45g (possibly higher as pointed out above) and regular Topres are 45g also. So even a regular Topre is probably slightly lighter.

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: washuai on Mon, 30 August 2010, 10:45:47

It isn't near impossible, it just costs more.  Elitekeyboards auctioned an all 30g on ebay.  The importer on ebay (http://myworld.ebay.com/smartimports/) would probably get you one.  There are japanese buying services.  I'd email elitekeyboards first.

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: PAINKILLER on Mon, 30 August 2010, 12:09:30

Quote from: ripster;218250

They do it differently there?

Show Image

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Integral_example.svg/220px-Integral_example.svg.png)

Just making it sound even geekier...

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 30 August 2010, 12:45:21

Quote from: PAINKILLER;218272

Just making it sound even geekier...

Yeah, the area under the curve is the same as the integral of that curve within said bounds

Title: Cherry MX reds VS Topre 30g ?
Post by: rlm80 on Thu, 02 September 2010, 02:43:51

I emailed Bruce at the Keyboard Company (http://www.keyboardco.com/) to ask him if it was possible to have an all 30g model shipped for me with the bulk of their command. I got a reply to my mail the day after I sent it. He's looking into this for me. Nice guy and impressive service. I hope they will be successful with their Topre on the European market.