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Title: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: mixware on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:20:53
Omait
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Information
Hi. We want to show you our keyboard (something similar to all known keyboards).
While we have made the first prototype, in the future it is planned to completely bring it to mind (go to the daughterboard, reduce the cost in terms of production, offer more interesting customization options).While we are developing it, I would like to know if anyone is interested in our development.
I want to note that everything that is indicated here is not the final vision of the project and everything can change

Layouts
They are likely to change(now the choice is quite poor)

Board Details
QMK and VIA support
Daughter board(?)
Brass Weight
Gasket oring mount
6 Degree typing angle
Renders
Prototype 1
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IC Form
https://forms.gle/5hHSiRWEhjbbDsKBA (https://forms.gle/5hHSiRWEhjbbDsKBA)

Timeline
08.20.21 - IC created
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Jo_hannes on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:29:57
They will come down on you hard. If you really do have a prototype, then you need to show it. But as you're unsure if you will use a daughterboard, I don't think you have a prototype. So, just keep developing it, and maybe don't make it look so TGR. Have fun, and don't be discouraged by the criticism you'll receive. See it as a way to learn. Also, what's with the plural? This is a hobby, you don't have to act like you're a company or something. And if you actually are several people, why not mention who you are?

Anyways, good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Dyto69 on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:34:49
Quote from: Jo_hannes on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:29:57
They will come down on you hard. If you really do have a prototype, then you need to show it. But as you're unsure if you will use a daughterboard, I don't think you have a prototype. So, just keep developing it, and maybe don't make it look so TGR. Have fun, and don't be discouraged by the criticism you'll receive. See it as a way to learn. Also, what's with the plural? This is a hobby, you don't have to act like you're a company or something. And if you actually are several people, why not mention who you are?

Anyways, good luck!
Yes i agree with everything you said, the first thing is saw are all the similarities with TGR design tbh it almost looks like a copy. Maybe you can change something before you order your Prototype Unit.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: mixware on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:37:45
Quote from: Jo_hannes on Fri, 20 August 2021, 04:29:57
They will come down on you hard. If you really do have a prototype, then you need to show it. But as you're unsure if you will use a daughterboard, I don't think you have a prototype. So, just keep developing it, and maybe don't make it look so TGR. Have fun, and don't be discouraged by the criticism you'll receive. See it as a way to learn. Also, what's with the plural? This is a hobby, you don't have to act like you're a company or something. And if you actually are several people, why not mention who you are?

Anyways, good luck!
Thank you for your reasoned criticism. The prototype was in the model plan. There is no living prototype yet, as we are trying to change the design to be remembered. The two of us are working on this project, later we will tell you who we are. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Hohland.Works on Fri, 20 August 2021, 05:10:17
So you just made TGR Unikorn with Jane v2 triangular bar? It's just a clone that doesn't have any effort invested in it. You didn't show the prototype, just a few renders. And no information about who you are.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 20 August 2021, 08:37:06
you're missing the jane engraving on your keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: mta on Fri, 20 August 2021, 08:52:53
I feel like every other day there's another Jane clone IC. Come on, guys.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:22:03
Reminds me of the GMMK Pro
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Fri, 20 August 2021, 12:08:35
the keyboard is unimaginative, has no creativity, as it is not even your design. Have so many keyboards come out that it's that impossible to be original nowadays?
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: unknownh on Fri, 20 August 2021, 14:33:15
can you make it a corsa clone too
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Ella on Fri, 20 August 2021, 14:34:57
too similar to the razer blackwidow chroma imo
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: whirlwind on Fri, 20 August 2021, 15:22:32
Even the name is a copy cat
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Baka Bot on Fri, 20 August 2021, 16:41:10
So its a funikorn
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: dantambok on Fri, 20 August 2021, 19:13:17
Quote from: lewisflude on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:22:03
Reminds me of the GMMK Pro

you need glasses my friend! it's clearly an anne pro!
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Auxo on Fri, 20 August 2021, 20:06:38
fuktsi is that you
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: J_Noes on Sat, 21 August 2021, 02:27:50
Quote from: Auxo on Fri, 20 August 2021, 20:06:38
fuktsi is that you

This.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: linell on Sat, 21 August 2021, 03:29:45
I know this definitely isn't the final design, but why does the first iteration have to be a straight up clone?
Good luck with redesign  :)



Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: NightRye_ on Sat, 21 August 2021, 10:37:42
Sick prototype bro.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: jtqx on Sun, 22 August 2021, 03:30:14
literally tiamo spelled backwards.

is this intentional or conincidence? big brain if its intentional  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: mcmcmc on Mon, 23 August 2021, 04:41:22
this is bliss
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: MOO·OON on Mon, 23 August 2021, 21:04:30
The design on the back of the keyboard is a little simple. Maybe you can put more effort into the design of the back and side of the keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:36:11
I appreciate the hustle and desire to capitalize on zeitgeist while you can.

That being said, early ICs are simply not the way to go about publishing a set concept. A bad early IC is way worse than a late, fleshed out IC. ICs are all about impressions and the impression this IC leaves upon me is very poor. You're looking for positive reception as confirmation for renders? You're not going to find it with this low quality of an IC.

It's clear that you're fairly new to the community. You made a GH account to post this thread. This is a 104 key base kit. That's something you majorly flesh out before you even have colors in a lot of cases. Your colors are web colors, meaning you're oblivious to the IC process and GMK production as a whole, things you can easily find out more about by visitng the trove of old GB and IC threads, or even uniqey's website. This comes off as a cash grab from an inexperienced community member, which, to be honest, I'm not ragging on, but I'm definitely not about it. Take some time in the hobby to be part of the community. Be a little more active. Find out what works, what's good, why it works, why it's good, and talk with more types of folks to engage in that exchange. That's what it's really about. While the "i see guy make thing, i can make thing too!" mentality certainly has driven a lot of cool stuff, this is not one of those cases.

Renders went from being a nice to have in ICs to nearly a need to have. It shows you have some level of personal commitment to the set that you would even pay for mockups our of your own pocket before anything is official. To not have renders and to just show off a set of KLEs, is definitely not a good look, and the KLEs do a very poor job of showing the colors that you want to show, or maybe they do a really good job, but to me they look like blanks. I'm not trying to bog you down or take shots at an easy target, rarely anything ever deserves that. If you're truly invested in making this set happen beyond a text-post and a barely visible KLE render, you need to make a very good impression, so that vendors who see your IC will want to work with ya.

Many people will not buy into the concept if the IC is not good from the get-go. You can sell any concept to anyone as long as the beginning impressions are good enough.

If you're intent on making this happen (and this would have to be very soon, before more eyes can see this and get their first impressions, which, in their current state would result in the set being written off extremely quickly) then you can:

1. Flesh out those layouts.
2. Get some renders.
3. Pick colors that aren't web colors, it's 2020. We have resources to help design GMK sets. GMK has resources to help design GMK sets. Use google, guy.
4. Goals, MOQs, prior contact to GMK show vendors that you're willing to do work beyond "hur dur look at color now shoulder it all for me," which, even if a vendor wouldn't take you up on, they would like to see.
5. Give more of a ****. Going into a project half-assed (you could be fully on board, but this post does certainly not show that) only makes me believe in the project less. If you don't believe in your project enough to give a detailed, commited sales pitch, why should any vendor, or even why should the community believe in it? Dipping your toes into the pool is simply not an option when everyone else who's making successful sets is hopping in headfirst.


cmon guy.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself, and is actually somewhat different from the Jane v2. This is not a Tiamo clone, It's just a 60% Jane clone (Jane/Unikorn hybrid?)
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: chits on Tue, 24 August 2021, 12:10:01
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself
wat
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 24 August 2021, 13:47:23
Quote from: unknownh on Fri, 20 August 2021, 14:33:15
can you make it a corsa clone too

but reverse the 360 and label it a 063. It'll be genius -- wrinkly brains only
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 24 August 2021, 15:31:29
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:36:11
I appreciate the hustle and desire to capitalize on zeitgeist while you can.

That being said, early ICs are simply not the way to go about publishing a set concept. A bad early IC is way worse than a late, fleshed out IC. ICs are all about impressions and the impression this IC leaves upon me is very poor. You're looking for positive reception as confirmation for renders? You're not going to find it with this low quality of an IC.

--

This is a board interest check...?

Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself, and is actually somewhat different from the Jane v2. This is not a Tiamo clone, It's just a 60% Jane clone (Jane/Unikorn hybrid?)


Please don't post assumptions that you're not clear on. Tiamo is a not a TGR board, and is well known for being heavily inspired by the Jane, if not a clone outright.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: iNViSiBiLiTi on Tue, 24 August 2021, 19:38:35
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself, and is actually somewhat different from the Jane v2. This is not a Tiamo clone, It's just a 60% Jane clone (Jane/Unikorn hybrid?)

Sorry, this is wrong.  Tiamo copied the TGR Jane V2 aesthetic.  the 60% IC clearly copied Tiamo because they just spelled the name backwards and used the same design as the TGR Jane V2. 
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 24 August 2021, 19:53:39
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself, and is actually somewhat different from the Jane v2. This is not a Tiamo clone, It's just a 60% Jane clone (Jane/Unikorn hybrid?)

I'd like what you are smoking
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Eastji on Tue, 24 August 2021, 20:45:28
!ti ot drawrof gnikooL .lla dna llehs ,gge war elohw rehtona tae ot tnaw em sekam ti naelc os si draob sihT
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Jo_hannes on Wed, 25 August 2021, 00:52:50
Quote from: Eastji on Tue, 24 August 2021, 20:45:28
!ti ot drawrof gnikooL .lla dna llehs ,gge war elohw rehtona tae ot tnaw em sekam ti naelc os si draob sihT

Okay, I spent about 2 minutes figuring this out. Worth it.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 30 August 2021, 04:09:48
Quote from: o3okevin on Tue, 24 August 2021, 15:31:29
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:36:11
I appreciate the hustle and desire to capitalize on zeitgeist while you can.

That being said, early ICs are simply not the way to go about publishing a set concept. A bad early IC is way worse than a late, fleshed out IC. ICs are all about impressions and the impression this IC leaves upon me is very poor. You're looking for positive reception as confirmation for renders? You're not going to find it with this low quality of an IC.

--

This is a board interest check...?

Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself, and is actually somewhat different from the Jane v2. This is not a Tiamo clone, It's just a 60% Jane clone (Jane/Unikorn hybrid?)


Please don't post assumptions that you're not clear on. Tiamo is a not a TGR board, and is well known for being heavily inspired by the Jane, if not a clone outright.
Thruth, got it mixed with the Tomo. mb.
also the krelbit pasta is just for gigs.
Title: Re: [IC] Omait | 60% keyboard with gasket oring mount
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 30 August 2021, 04:14:35
Quote from: superdoedoe on Tue, 24 August 2021, 19:53:39
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Tue, 24 August 2021, 01:50:57
Quote from: iNViSiBiLiTi on Fri, 20 August 2021, 11:27:44
The tabs for the gasket mounting seems pretty thin/small (I'm assuming that's because the bezels are so thin) and very long, have you prototyped this before? Do you know how this board might feel with the gasket mounting?

Also this looks like a clone of TGR.  (I'm guessing you cloned a Tiamo who cloned TGR Jane V2)
The Tiamo didn't clone the Jane, the Tiamo is a TGR board itself, and is actually somewhat different from the Jane v2. This is not a Tiamo clone, It's just a 60% Jane clone (Jane/Unikorn hybrid?)
whatever I was on was good ****. i mixed it up with the tomo, mb.
I'd like what you are smoking