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Title: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 11:39:53
Aster Ergo TKL


Let me introduce an ergo TKL keyboard with a concept of stars and spaceship.

This Aster Ergo TKL is a series of 'Corenstellation', a split keyboard with 'Corne' layout.

BTW, we, Mt. Keyverest, have successfully run SEMO TKL Founder's Edition and Standard Edition GB recently.
All the GB participants gave testimonies of high quality and nice typing feel/sound of SEMO TKLs.

We will make Aster Ergo TKL with highest quality.

Ok, let's see the pics of this beautiful keyboard.

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[GB Info]

- GB Period : 1st January 2022 ~ 31st January 2022
- Max Quantity : 300 Sets
- MOQ : 50 Sets

- Two version : Premium(with brass weight) and Standard(without weight)

- Prototypes will be made late October or early November this year

- Interest check form : https://forms.gle/Usx3bu4R5xvaqSxr6 (https://forms.gle/Usx3bu4R5xvaqSxr6)


[Specification]

- Typing Angle : 7 degrees
- Mounting Style : Gasket mounted (may be top mounted too)
- Weight : Premium 3.48 Kg / Standard 2.0 Kg (unbuilt and without PCB)
- Color :
   Top - Navy, Black +TBD (anodized)
   Bottom - Silver + TBD (anodized)
   Weight(for Premium version only) - Gold and Silver (paint coated)
- Badge : TBD - SS with engravings or Acryl/PC diffuser with engravings(RGB support)

- Includes
   Keyboard Top/Bottom (and Weight for Premium version)
   Aluminium Plate
   PCB (Solder)
   Gaskets
   Bumpons/Screws/Microfiber pouch/Package etc.


[Price]

- Estimated Price (NOT FIXED YET) :
   Standard version - below 650USD
   Premium version - below 890USD


You can check more info and progress on our discord server : https://discord.gg/WhtyrcQmHT (https://discord.gg/WhtyrcQmHT)

Thanks for watching this IC thread!
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: dededecline on Sat, 11 September 2021, 11:56:48
Really cool concept, though I'm not sure I understand where the Corne influence comes into play. It'd also help to have an exploded render showing the plate and gasket mounting.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: kameron on Sat, 11 September 2021, 11:59:24
cool concept not a fan personally but glwic
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:04:42
Holy moly that's expensive
Title: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: _rubik on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:07:47
I’ve always wanted a board with this layout, but the execution isn’t exactly my taste. There are some things I could recommend, but for that price I don’t think it’s for me regardless

GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: herbologist on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:10:27
I'm wondering why there's a gb date before protos have arrived. You have no clue how your first protos are going to go. Definitely need to see exploded render. IC seems very premature. I'm not the hugest fan personally but at least it's something a little different.

Hope you take the feedback and put some more work into the ic once you have prototypes.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:13:48
Really cool concept, though I'm not sure I understand where the Corne influence comes into play. It'd also help to have an exploded render showing the plate and gasket mounting.

There is a keyboard named 'Cornestellation', and Aster Ergo TKL concept is same as Cornestellation. You can find this keyboard on my discord server.

The plate is not the final version.
Will run some simulation of the plate and revise it to get best typing feel.

There are total six gasket mounts. Will upload the pic later. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:14:14
cool concept not a fan personally but glwic

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:16:11
Holy moly that's expensive

Too much 3D machining required, which takes a lot of time for machining.

Also current crazy raw material price is one of the reason of the high price too.
('Not made in China' is another reason for the price)
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 12:21:08
I'm wondering why there's a gb date before protos have arrived. You have no clue how your first protos are going to go. Definitely need to see exploded render. IC seems very premature. I'm not the hugest fan personally but at least it's something a little different.

Hope you take the feedback and put some more work into the ic once you have prototypes.

We make our keyboard by our own(we have our own factory, and even this is not our first keyboard but made lot lot lot of keyboards before). So, if modification is required(actually we do modify before we make the prototype), we can make revised version in a day(anodizing takes some more days but we can handle with the raw version too). Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:29:55
Holy moly that's expensive

Too much 3D machining required, which takes a lot of time for machining.

Also current crazy raw material price is one of the reason of the high price too.
('Not made in China' is another reason for the price)

Can vouch for raw material price. seriously limits options . waiting for prices to go back down before pursuing copper /brass extension of project
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:36:23
Some more questions after re-reading the IC:

Will the brass weight be a through weight (both internal and external)?
Will there be an option of badge-less? (Not a big fan of the design)
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: apexshikari on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:41:13
Looks fantastic! Look forward to the GB!


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Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:44:49
Some more questions after re-reading the IC:

Will the brass weight be a through weight (both internal and external)?
Will there be an option of badge-less? (Not a big fan of the design)

Yes, the brass weight goes through the bottom case. Both internal and external.

Also please leave suggestion on the IC form about the badge. will definitely consider badgeless design too.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:45:23
Holy moly that's expensive

Too much 3D machining required, which takes a lot of time for machining.

Also current crazy raw material price is one of the reason of the high price too.
('Not made in China' is another reason for the price)

Can vouch for raw material price. seriously limits options . waiting for prices to go back down before pursuing copper /brass extension of project

Agreed. That's why I made two versions.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:46:03
Looks fantastic! Look forward to the GB!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for your interest!
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:50:03
Holy moly that's expensive

Too much 3D machining required, which takes a lot of time for machining.

Also current crazy raw material price is one of the reason of the high price too.
('Not made in China' is another reason for the price)

Can vouch for raw material price. seriously limits options . waiting for prices to go back down before pursuing copper /brass extension of project

How reliable can your voucher be considering you have ordered one (1) raw one(1)-off that was for yourself? Of course it's going to be expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 13:53:25
Some more questions after re-reading the IC:

Will the brass weight be a through weight (both internal and external)?
Will there be an option of badge-less? (Not a big fan of the design)


Please check the weight pics.

(https://i.imgur.com/eJcw7dE.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/bJ8uYjZ.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: ejewell89 on Sat, 11 September 2021, 21:28:59
i really like this.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sat, 11 September 2021, 23:58:32
i really like this.
Thanks for your interest!
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Sicowa on Sun, 12 September 2021, 00:12:05
I really like this idea.

Would really like to see this come to fruition. very excited to see how your prototype comes out.

I would like to add is possibly changing the USB port to be more cohesive with your rear design as it feels very abrupt. Would also rather the badge above the arrow cluster to be an engraving instead.

Otherwise very interested in future updates. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sun, 12 September 2021, 02:23:00
Some more questions after re-reading the IC:

Will the brass weight be a through weight (both internal and external)?
Will there be an option of badge-less? (Not a big fan of the design)


Please check the weight pics.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/eJcw7dE.png)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bJ8uYjZ.png)


Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 12 September 2021, 03:56:47
I think your keyboard is more likely to come from the constellation of Virgo if you get what I am saying.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: L4ll1g470r on Sun, 12 September 2021, 05:04:49
ISO support?
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sun, 12 September 2021, 07:52:10
ISO support?

Does support ISO and splits(l r shift and bs etc)
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sun, 12 September 2021, 07:53:02
I really like this idea.

Would really like to see this come to fruition. very excited to see how your prototype comes out.

I would like to add is possibly changing the USB port to be more cohesive with your rear design as it feels very abrupt. Would also rather the badge above the arrow cluster to be an engraving instead.

Otherwise very interested in future updates. GLWIC

Any idea how the usb port shall look like?
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sun, 12 September 2021, 07:53:48
I think your keyboard is more likely to come from the constellation of Virgo if you get what I am saying.

Sorry couldn't catch what you wanted to say.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: linell on Sun, 12 September 2021, 08:34:49
I think your keyboard is more likely to come from the constellation of Virgo if you get what I am saying.

Sorry couldn't catch what you wanted to say.
The FLX Virgo is another ergo TKL
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Surefoot on Sun, 12 September 2021, 17:17:54
Well, of course, yes !
Very please with how the Semo turned out, so that one is a no-brainer.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: honeybee on Sun, 12 September 2021, 18:47:21
+1 for badgeless. Looking for my first keyboard, I'd originally wanted a full size. I'd considered Odin on KBD Fans, but the badge killed it for me. I'm interested in this board regardless though.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: darthcapn on Sun, 12 September 2021, 19:13:11
I too would like more info on where is the corne inspiration + the exploded render and a couple of renders with keycaps on would also be nice to have.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: japancakes on Mon, 13 September 2021, 01:10:29
Hoping for matching top/bottom case option instead of mixed.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: key_nes on Mon, 13 September 2021, 01:41:15
I like how the typing angle! Nice concept overall. Just hope the price could be cheaper...
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 13 September 2021, 07:39:26
Hmmm.. Really love this idea, and its reference too.

I would look into removing either the badge, or the discord-esque looking logo/engraving on the top right. With an already impressive looking layout, having both visual elements on the front as well only busies/muddies the visual language on the board.

My own suggestion would be to take the badge completely from the front, and instead use it as an engraving to replace the little logo up top. Another option could be to eliminate the little logo, and instead of a badge just engraving the constellation where the badge is currently at, cleaning up the look still.

Either way, VERY interested in this!
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 13 September 2021, 08:52:08
Have a SEMO, like it. Will get one of these too. I’d like it if a solid color option was available in black or silver.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: honeybee on Mon, 13 September 2021, 09:14:04
Hmmm.. Really love this idea, and its reference too.

I would look into removing either the badge, or the discord-esque looking logo/engraving on the top right. With an already impressive looking layout, having both visual elements on the front as well only busies/muddies the visual language on the board.

My own suggestion would be to take the badge completely from the front, and instead use it as an engraving to replace the little logo up top. Another option could be to eliminate the little logo, and instead of a badge just engraving the constellation where the badge is currently at, cleaning up the look still.

Either way, VERY interested in this!

I hadn't even noticed the badge above the arrow keys, I'd confused that with the engraving you'd mentioned when I said "badge" in my earlier comment. I don't actually mind the badge, it's the engraving / "discord-esque" logo that I dislike.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: WillyWortel on Wed, 15 September 2021, 09:20:23
Cool concept.

I love the layout, back and the USB cutout. The weight and engraving looks stunning. Personally, I don't mind badges when they are not standing out to much. I'm not sure if the angled front profile (wrest rest area) is to my taste.

Let's see where this goes.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 15 September 2021, 10:21:25
Also not a fan of badges. The SEMO stamp on the front was fine. I’m not sure I love the Little Dipper so much that I need a contrasted metal badge flying it’s flag.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 15 September 2021, 10:47:54
Cool concept.

I love the layout, back and the USB cutout. The weight and engraving looks stunning. Personally, I don't mind badges when they are not standing out to much. I'm not sure if the angled front profile (wrest rest area) is to my taste.

Let's see where this goes.

I'm with you. The badges are sign of uniqueness and personality of the designer. Almost a makers-mark. That's something which shouldn't be hidden IMO.

That front lip is what's bugging me (I think). Tricky to place. I looks good on traditional 1800 boards, but something about it here makes the angle feel exaggerated -- almost wedge-like.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: i luv chuletas on Wed, 15 September 2021, 15:28:58
I personally really dig the wedge-esque look the front has, it gives it a unique personality. That's something that I look for in every board (which is how I've built my collection out so far)

Regarding badges though, I get what you guys mean, but that's when I say it's better to pick one or the other. Having two logos/badges just detracts from the designers work, which should speak for itself without logos and all that.

That being said, I do dig the badge on top of the arrow clusters. The one on top though... it's rough. At least coupled with the badge, it's too much going on.

Gondo's/CK's Sagitarius is a victim of this too. The star constellation in the middle is a beautiful touch on a unique keyb, but then the CK cannon completely ruins the look by adding one element too many to the design.

All of this of course is more design philosophy than anything else lol

Still, really looking forward to this running. I've been wanting a layout like this for forever at this point lol, and this one looks to be a unique offering in that regard  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: dudewth on Wed, 15 September 2021, 16:41:51
I like this a lot. I don't mine the details on the bottom and like that the top is relatively clean.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: honeybee on Thu, 16 September 2021, 06:18:33
I personally really dig the wedge-esque look the front has, it gives it a unique personality. That's something that I look for in every board (which is how I've built my collection out so far)

Regarding badges though, I get what you guys mean, but that's when I say it's better to pick one or the other. Having two logos/badges just detracts from the designers work, which should speak for itself without logos and all that.

That being said, I do dig the badge on top of the arrow clusters. The one on top though... it's rough. At least coupled with the badge, it's too much going on.

Gondo's/CK's Sagitarius is a victim of this too. The star constellation in the middle is a beautiful touch on a unique keyb, but then the CK cannon completely ruins the look by adding one element too many to the design.

All of this of course is more design philosophy than anything else lol

Still, really looking forward to this running. I've been wanting a layout like this for forever at this point lol, and this one looks to be a unique offering in that regard  :p

Fully agree, you've said it best.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Danduil on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:11:47
I really dig the TKL Alice design and I think the board itself looks great. However, the price for this board is absolutely insane and I think there aren't enough features/adjustability to warrant such a price tag. I'm sure the group buy and IC will go great and there will be a lot of interest around it, but I can't see myself picking this one up unless there are some changes made (I.E. Hotswap).
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sun, 26 September 2021, 21:57:42
I think your keyboard is more likely to come from the constellation of Virgo if you get what I am saying.

Sorry couldn't catch what you wanted to say.
The FLX Virgo is another ergo TKL

I know about flx virgo, but it is also not the first ergo tkl. Also the layout is different from flx virgo. The design concept(not the layout) is from a split keyboard named Cornestellation.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sun, 26 September 2021, 21:59:17
+1 for badgeless. Looking for my first keyboard, I'd originally wanted a full size. I'd considered Odin on KBD Fans, but the badge killed it for me. I'm interested in this board regardless though.

You can vote some design options on my discord.
I am considering to change the badge design including the outer line.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: jmSur on Sun, 26 September 2021, 22:02:26
I too would like more info on where is the corne inspiration + the exploded render and a couple of renders with keycaps on would also be nice to have.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

The keyboard design(not the layout) is kind a series design which 'Cornestellation' is the first of this kind of look. I am going to make the prototype in late October or early November. Will update with keycaps on the prototype.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: WillyWortel on Mon, 27 September 2021, 01:23:34
Would you consider maroon or aubergine purple (something that goes with GMK Bingsu)?
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: vi0till on Mon, 27 September 2021, 04:16:05
Please aubergine purple.

Would you consider maroon or aubergine purple (something that goes with GMK Bingsu)?
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: baka jiken on Mon, 27 September 2021, 20:37:43
TKL Alice??? Holy hell. Sign me effing up :p
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: severin on Tue, 28 September 2021, 15:35:29
Looks beautiful, expensive, but beautiful
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: Jacki on Wed, 29 September 2021, 01:51:32
+240$ to get a brass weight.
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: NightFox99 on Sat, 16 October 2021, 15:22:49
Like it very much BUT won't get if the brass weight version price is maintained that high. Plus what is that strange thing on the upper right side of the top plate ?
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: ssatta on Tue, 02 November 2021, 16:13:56
I would appreciate some more variety in plates, not just aluminum. Maybe something softer, POM or some other plastic?
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: SirKhamenman on Wed, 03 November 2021, 01:44:08
1. I agree with many comments here that the 2nd logo/icon that looks like discord logo is distracting and not needed
2. It's really expensive keyboard. +/- $650 that is a lot..
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 03 November 2021, 10:09:40
Holy moly that's expensive

Too much 3D machining required, which takes a lot of time for machining.

Also current crazy raw material price is one of the reason of the high price too.
('Not made in China' is another reason for the price)

Can vouch for raw material price. seriously limits options . waiting for prices to go back down before pursuing copper /brass extension of project

How reliable can your voucher be considering you have ordered one (1) raw one(1)-off that was for yourself? Of course it's going to be expensive.

There exists a valuable tool: communication.
(Hint: I talked to the factory and got quotes, asked them, worked out solution, threw out solution b/c too expensive)

Insufferable
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: i luv chuletas on Thu, 18 November 2021, 11:17:31
Any chance the PCB will support alps switches? 
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: less_blank on Tue, 19 April 2022, 21:19:36
Bumping this thread to give it a little more visibility since I'd like to see this board hit MOQ. GB is currently live on https://bahmstudio.com/collections/all until April 30th.

edit: just saw they made a GB thread so this was probably unneccessary. :P
Title: Re: [IC] Aster Ergo TKL with F13
Post by: mikkelthepikkel on Fri, 13 May 2022, 13:52:36
fancy little board I really like it little pricey but still considering  :thumb: