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Title: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented 60% keyboard | 12/22 Major Update
Post by: Farhandsome on Tue, 12 October 2021, 02:25:36
Introducing the Han60
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(https://i.imgur.com/yiymPIn.jpg)

Join the Discord for the most up to date information: https://discord.gg/aJXxfFwFWB (https://discord.gg/aJXxfFwFWB)

Update Summary (12/22/2021)
Hey all! It's been about 2.5 months since my initial IC and I just wanted to thank everyone for the open, honest feedback. I've spent the last 10 weeks combing over all the improvement opportunities and implementing the best ones. The design process of this has been challenging, but also quite fun. Please see the details below on a summary of changes (I've also updated the entire post with all the up to date details):

Case

Plate

PCB

Miscellaneous

Logistics

There is still some work left to be done prior to sale so I'll be sure to keep updating this post as soon as I have new info. Please also join the discord for the most up-to-date information and to ask any questions (or just hang out and chat!)
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Background
Hi all! Farhandsome (han) here. Just wanted to give a little background on myself before talking about the board. I'm an engineer by trade and work in medical device fabrication so I have access to a lot of different manufacturing tools and what not. Combining that with a love of mechanical keyboards that started a little over a year ago, I decided to try my hand at designing a keyboard of my own. The process was pretty difficult as I didn't have too much knowledge of PCB design but it was a welcome challenge and I ended up really enjoying the process. My favorite part has to be interacting with the keyboard community on both consumer and designer levels. I find the process really fascinating and I hope it's something I can continue to expand my knowledge upon and work on more and more unique designs.

I decided to start with something relatively simple - a simple 60% keyboard with a minimalist form factor. This is far from the most unique or the most intricate design I had in mind for a keyboard, but I wanted to learn the process from start to finish with a board that is not endgame for anyone by any means, but something that is affordable and can be viewed as an option for an entry-level board into an enthusiast's hobby. I hope this project leads to a relative success so I can follow up with more daring design choices while having a better knowledge of the market and community as a whole.

Design

Case
(https://i.imgur.com/jv5vnLk.png)

Plate
(https://i.imgur.com/xgMTffd.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jsCae6S.jpg)

PCB
(https://i.imgur.com/mv10p4k.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2QCJC4w.jpg)

Sound Test

Logistics

Pricing & Quantity
Contents
Timeline
Branding
(https://i.imgur.com/QzQJpX2.jpg)
Engraved logo on back of the bottom center side of the board. After lots of feedback, kept this one to a minimum for aesthetic purposes while still retaining some level of uniqueness for the board itself.

Renders
(https://i.imgur.com/fqMuUaE.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Qf9Pp1Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uCImcIh.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/xvTeJRc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1zxboOx.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/wQqBzZI.jpg)
Thank you to SpikedSynapse for the renders!

Click here for older renders:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/RfuJksb.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/HtGCZOB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TvQ16BS.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Th9nD0w.jpg)

Prototype
(https://i.imgur.com/yiymPIn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/fgmY9PM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TSl4UQF.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/RuFpNCo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z3LgkjU.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/JE1ciMP.jpg)

Click to see older prototypes:
More
**Note: Has some visible scratch marks; this is a result of my own tampering. The final units will all be thoroughly inspected for quality.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ev3fB3Q.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Imr0VVp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VeosgXG.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/nfiSGNO.jpg)


Final Thoughts
This is also my first IC so I hope I've put everything needed for a successful interest check. Please give me your open and honest feedback about both the board as well as the interest check itself! I'll be considering this a living document so I'll update with more pictures, renders, typing tests, etc. as time goes on and I get more feedback. Thanks so much for letting me a part of this community and I hope you enjoy the Han60!

Change Log
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: keybo_hobo on Tue, 12 October 2021, 03:25:04
60% with arrows, gasket mount and data board for this price. Looks very nice=) Mb soundetst of your proto?
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: honoka on Tue, 12 October 2021, 03:37:46
Hmm, you say iso but there is no split left shift support

In that case, there is no use for the iso enter
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Farhandsome on Tue, 12 October 2021, 09:52:55
Hey there! Thanks so much for the reply - you're totally right. Oversight on my part - I'll add in support for a left-shift split!

Quote from: honoka on Tue, 12 October 2021, 03:37:46
Hmm, you say iso but there is no split left shift support

In that case, there is no use for the iso enter

Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Farhandsome on Tue, 12 October 2021, 09:53:44
Thank you! Will do - I'll add in a sound test for my next update.

Quote from: keybo_hobo on Tue, 12 October 2021, 03:25:04
60% with arrows, gasket mount and data board for this price. Looks very nice=) Mb soundetst of your proto?
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: ahash on Tue, 12 October 2021, 13:52:03
Love the minimal design and non-aggressive logo. Imagine good depth on the acoustics with the polycarb, great choice! Can't wait for this one, feels like it's been forever since a unique 60% has dropped.
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Ustinj on Tue, 12 October 2021, 15:13:50
looks nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: haesbaert on Wed, 13 October 2021, 10:39:36
I like it but please consider supporting Tsangan, lots of people in the community prefer it over ANSI layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Farhandsome on Wed, 13 October 2021, 12:45:03
Thanks so much for the feedback! Yes, it seems like Tsangan is the popular opinion in the IC form and Reddit threads. I will switch the default layout to Tsangan w/ an option for arrow keys. More to come - thanks!

Quote from: haesbaert on Wed, 13 October 2021, 10:39:36
I like it but please consider supporting Tsangan, lots of people in the community prefer it over ANSI layout.
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: mikestah on Thu, 14 October 2021, 18:09:41
All the blemishes on the prototype are disconcerting even with your disclaimer. I really like what you appear to be offering but I'm worried that you won't be able to keep that price, a good quality, and that set of features at such a low moq, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Farhandsome on Fri, 15 October 2021, 09:02:27
Hey there! I recognize the concerns and I understand. Seriously though, this prototype had been through a lot prior to this picture just from changing of plates, different gasket trials, etc. Once I get in my next sample, I plan to take a photo prior to any testing.

I'll be totally transparent throughout the process - it's my first GB so I definitely don't want to set things off on a bad precedent!

Quote from: mikestah on Thu, 14 October 2021, 18:09:41
All the blemishes on the prototype are disconcerting even with your disclaimer. I really like what you appear to be offering but I'm worried that you won't be able to keep that price, a good quality, and that set of features at such a low moq, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: nick779 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 08:10:40
Quote from: Farhandsome on Wed, 13 October 2021, 12:45:03
Thanks so much for the feedback! Yes, it seems like Tsangan is the popular opinion in the IC form and Reddit threads. I will switch the default layout to Tsangan w/ an option for arrow keys. More to come - thanks!

Quote from: haesbaert on Wed, 13 October 2021, 10:39:36
I like it but please consider supporting Tsangan, lots of people in the community prefer it over ANSI layout.

Yeah dropping ANSI is a deal breaker for me. I would maybe TRY Tsangan, but not a big fan of losing ANSI. Also if you do this, please offer multiple plates even if it costs more. All of the cut outs for arrow key layouts remove so much material from the plate.
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: PracticalJoke on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:32:52
This looks extremely nice. Quick question, you mentioned that there will be a tsangan layout option, will there still be an option for the ANSI layout?
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Farhandsome on Mon, 25 October 2021, 10:09:42
Quote from: nick779 on Thu, 21 October 2021, 08:10:40
Quote from: Farhandsome on Wed, 13 October 2021, 12:45:03
Thanks so much for the feedback! Yes, it seems like Tsangan is the popular opinion in the IC form and Reddit threads. I will switch the default layout to Tsangan w/ an option for arrow keys. More to come - thanks!

Quote from: haesbaert on Wed, 13 October 2021, 10:39:36
I like it but please consider supporting Tsangan, lots of people in the community prefer it over ANSI layout.

Yeah dropping ANSI is a deal breaker for me. I would maybe TRY Tsangan, but not a big fan of losing ANSI. Also if you do this, please offer multiple plates even if it costs more. All of the cut outs for arrow key layouts remove so much material from the plate.

Gotcha. I think what I will do before making any hard decisions is include this in the second IC. It looks like there's a few options in terms of PCB layout as well as logistics that I'd like to get a community answer before moving to GB. Thanks so much for the feedback.
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented, multiple layout, isolation gasket 60% keyboard
Post by: Farhandsome on Mon, 25 October 2021, 10:12:05
Quote from: PracticalJoke on Thu, 21 October 2021, 14:32:52
This looks extremely nice. Quick question, you mentioned that there will be a tsangan layout option, will there still be an option for the ANSI layout?

Thanks for the feedback! I'll be including this topic in the second IC! I haven't made a hard decision on ANSI vs. Tsangan yet.
Title: Re: [IC] Han60 - Budget-oriented 60% keyboard | 12/22 Major Update
Post by: Farhandsome on Wed, 22 December 2021, 15:25:29
Added in major update on 12/22!