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Title: [IC] DCS Estate- PRICING ANNOUNCED - GB APRIL 18th - MAY 20th
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:06:21
DCS Estate - GB APRIL 18th - MAY 20th

RECENT UPDATE

PRICING
I am very excited to announce the pricing for DCS Estate! I am also excited to announce that ThocKeys will be offering a fantastic deal. With the purchase of a Base Kit, any other kit you purchase will be discounted at 15%. This promotion will only be running for the first 72 hours - so make sure you get your purchase in quickly!
(https://i.imgur.com/EYgbepO.png)

IC Form (https://forms.gle/96cN4kae1Fsxut7M7)
TLDR; Beige ABS DCS set with centered legends, colorful front printing, and a focus on 40s support, to pay homage to a vintage keyboard found in someone's basement.

Source/Inspiration
I came across a vintage keyboard replacement at an estate sale. To my despair, the keycaps on this board were not MX compatible.

Images:

More
(https://i.imgur.com/GIcaUwA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YYh2pHF.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/x7iZbcR.png)


That's it - no story, just cool old tech.

Choices
ABS DCS was chosen to minimize lead-time, while also leveraging the superb quality keycaps that Signature Plastics puts out. This keyset is designed to be as close as possible to the original source. To do so, this set is intended to be run with centered legends. Additionally, SP will use pad printing for the colored front legends/symbols.

Colors
As these are stock SP colors, there should be no issue with color matching. The colors are as follows:
o Legends - GTA
o Caps - TGG
o Alphas front legends & FCTN front circles - BED
o ALPHA LOCK front circles - RDA
o CTRL front circles - RA Removed as of 01/04/2022
o SYS front circles - VV
o ENTER front circles - YCH

Kits
Don't want to look at the renders and try to figure out keycap sizes? Here's a KLE (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/83dd16d5fd64638bcf224e5e9c9b3ccc) (Last updated 01/04/2022).

Base - Target: 150 MoQ
(https://i.imgur.com/FFOTRsv.jpg)

Numpad - Target: 50 MoQ
(https://i.imgur.com/jybXFW7.png)

40s&Ortho - Target: 50 MoQ
Minibars - Target: 50 MoQ
Big Bar - Target: 25 MoQ
(https://i.imgur.com/bYJZ8l5.jpg)

Extended Alpha Kit - Target: 50 MoQ
(https://i.imgur.com/Svc0rf7.png)

Renders
MB44 by MelonBred
(https://i.imgur.com/9k6bnxL.png)

Bear65 by jacky
(https://i.imgur.com/igVDk4I.jpg)

KBD19x
(https://i.imgur.com/K6hHRgB.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/zvYNmGG.jpg)

Fjell by Mekanisk
(https://i.imgur.com/gxGOJbs.png)

Garbage Truck by Trashman
(https://i.imgur.com/dRuu9iD.jpg)

40rmie by KuroTheCrazy
(https://i.imgur.com/p75MVsJ.jpg)

Mech27 TKL
(https://i.imgur.com/1KvseVX.jpg)

Vendors
o US: ThocKeys
o UK: proto[Typist]
o EU: MyKeyboard.eu
o OC: DailyClack
o Asia: ZFrontier


Collabs

Milled Knobs
(https://imgur.com/KPs3Uhg.jpg)

As was teased in the last render that was released, I am very very excited to announce that I am collaborating with P3D Store to offer milled knobs! There will be four solid color knobs (in various sizes) available: Blue, Green, Purple, and Yellow. Additionally, there will be a mixed color knob available in the Wild Flower colorway.

IMGUR Album (https://imgur.com/a/9eva7TA) of the knobs that will be offered.

Artisan Minibars
One of the biggest challenges with running DCS (and DSS) is the lack of convex minibars in the profile. Because of this, I am partnering with Pseudoku over at Asymplex (https://www.asymplex.xyz/) to offer some artisan minibars! Further details will be made available as we get closer to the GB date, but I am excited to partner with a 40s lover (as myself) to offer these lovely minibars!

Resin Artisans
o Winkeys (https://www.instagram.com/win_keys/?hl=en)
o PSYCHOKeycaps (https://www.psychokeycaps.com/)
o Alpha Keycaps (https://alphakeycaps.com/)
o Mastonon Kaps (https://www.instagram.com/mastonon.kaps/?hl=en)

Links
IC Form v2 (https://forms.gle/96cN4kae1Fsxut7M7)
Imgur Render Album (https://imgur.com/a/JovO0vY)
Imgur Source Images Album (https://imgur.com/a/o5Crlxh)

Todo List
o Gather feedback from community
o Finalize kitting
o Awaiting a quote
o Talk to vendors
o Explore possible collaborations

Thanks
Thanks to anyone and everyone that has given feedback - but thanks in particular to ferda, alas, matthewdias, dededecline, and nopun for kitting advice and manzel for the renders.

Version History:
v1 IC Form:  (https://forms.gle/qtX9PWa5hCUaZXGt7)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:07:20
Change Log

Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:09:05
Do you really intend to make new molds for almost every key?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:11:40
Quote from: Fredington on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:09:05
Do you really intend to make new molds for almost every key?

Good question - most of these keys actually already exist. They've been used in older sets (see DCS Purple Rain). Of course, there will have to be some molds made to support the set, but I don't expect it to be for a "majority" of the set.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: Alejo1707 on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:32:08
I would drop the 10u tbh. Thanks for mentioning DCS Purple Rain, was not aware of the Roadkit, but I like it!

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Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: ZavaZ86 on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:42:05
Vintage and 40's, those 2 things don't go together. Otherwise seems decent somewhat.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: AASH on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:46:44
Quote from: ZavaZ86 on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:42:05
Vintage and 40's, those 2 things don't go together. Otherwise seems decent somewhat.
Why wouldn't they? There's been a few small layouts at the beginning of computing.

Set looks great, hype & glwic s8er!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: dingusxmcgee on Thu, 30 December 2021, 09:07:06
Love the look of this. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: Diggidy on Thu, 30 December 2021, 09:13:57
I love the idea of DCS beige and the front-legends, but the large centered legends just ruins it for me TBH.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 December 2021, 10:17:09
centered legends DCS? what year is it

i'd say i'm not sure if your renders are accurate to the legend size but i don't think i've actually looked at a centered legends DCS set in like... 5 years or so
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: Ella on Thu, 30 December 2021, 10:22:35
40s are cursed but this is cool
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: PixelPlays__ on Thu, 30 December 2021, 11:08:49
The renders look overtextured, like the normal map or whatever it is has too much depth applied to it. Also, what are the mod legends?

Edit:
Quote from: mk on Thu, 30 December 2021, 11:19:54
In case anybody is wondering - The inspiration keyboard is a (yellowed) Beige TI99/4A keyboard module.

So this is why there are "Alpha Lock" and "Fctn" keys, but I'm still not really liking those legends. Any chance you could also kit standard "Caps Lock" and "Fn" keys too?

The front print is a nice touch, though.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: mk on Thu, 30 December 2021, 11:19:54
In case anybody is wondering - The inspiration keyboard is a (yellowed) Beige TI99/4A keyboard module.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 12:02:09
Quote from: mk on Thu, 30 December 2021, 11:19:54
In case anybody is wondering - The inspiration keyboard is a (yellowed) Beige TI99/4A keyboard module.

See I knew that someone on here would be able to tell me where this board was used. Thanks for this information - I have to work on my googling  :))
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 12:06:10
Quote from: Puddsy on Thu, 30 December 2021, 10:17:09
i'd say i'm not sure if your renders are accurate to the legend size but i don't think i've actually looked at a centered legends DCS set in like... 5 years or so

Quote from: PixelPlays__ on Thu, 30 December 2021, 11:08:49
Also, what are the mod legends?

Thanks for these questions! You can take a look at DCS Purple Rain (https://trashman.wiki/en/keycaps/dcs-purple-rain) as an example of what I had manzel base these renders on for legend font/size.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 30 December 2021, 12:13:46
This is so fun and unique. Haven't seen a centered sculpted keyset in a long time, and love the fun keys like alpha lock. Really great concept that you took an original inspo and ran with it, great stuff
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: PixelPlays__ on Thu, 30 December 2021, 13:21:38
Quote from: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 12:02:09
Quote from: mk on Thu, 30 December 2021, 11:19:54
In case anybody is wondering - The inspiration keyboard is a (yellowed) Beige TI99/4A keyboard module.

See I knew that someone on here would be able to tell me where this board was used. Thanks for this information - I have to work on my googling  :))

Why would you base your inspo off of a board that you're not familiar with? In my experience, you would do this with a board that you are personally invested in and passionate about, i.e. NuTypes with 6085.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 30 December 2021, 16:57:44
upper left legends and white would be awesome   - like a DCS sandstorm


Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: kinglokchung2000 on Thu, 30 December 2021, 17:06:54
Will you consider an ergo kit as well?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 17:48:58
Quote from: kinglokchung2000 on Thu, 30 December 2021, 17:06:54
Will you consider an ergo kit as well?

Probably will not be putting an ergo kit together, but feel free to put it in the IC form and I will revisit it if there is enough interest!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 17:59:20
Quote from: PixelPlays__ on Thu, 30 December 2021, 13:21:38
Why would you base your inspo off of a board that you're not familiar with? In my experience, you would do this with a board that you are personally invested in and passionate about, i.e. NuTypes with 6085.

Thanks for your concern here! As I said in the Source/Inspiration section, I was generally focused on how cool the caps are, and just wanted to create something that I could use on a modern board that was as close to the source as possible. Not "personally invested" in the board itself - just think that source is really interesting and I'd like to use it on a daily basis.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Tue, 04 January 2022, 09:03:59
Update post-SP quote.

Quote from: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:07:20
Change Log

  • 01/04/2022: Received quote back from Signature Plastics. Updated kitting to reduce overall cost to produce set. This entailed removing alphas/CTRL front printing from the base kit and extension kit. Added a separate alphas kit with just those keys that had front printing, for those people that may want to have the keys produced. Unfortunately, this will likely be a rather expensive kit due to the front printing costs. Getting updated renders for these changes.
  • 01/04/2022: Updated KLE (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/83dd16d5fd64638bcf224e5e9c9b3ccc) Old KLE (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/c777e715d119fcad2ae6ac56c207b16e)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Wed, 05 January 2022, 15:22:38
Quote from: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:07:20

01/05/2022: Added updated renders for base kit, 40s/ortho kit, and all boards. Added new extension alphas kit.

Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - NEW KIT/RENDERS (01/05/2022)
Post by: FatefulStranger on Wed, 05 January 2022, 20:56:34
Really dig the set, but wish the extension alphas was part of the main base kit like in the previous renders.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - NEW KIT/RENDERS (01/05/2022)
Post by: s8erdude on Mon, 24 January 2022, 08:55:39
Quote from: FatefulStranger on Wed, 05 January 2022, 20:56:34
Really dig the set, but wish the extension alphas was part of the main base kit like in the previous renders.

Completely understand your concern here - unfortunately, the cost would have made the base kit too expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - Vendors, GB Month, & MoQ Announced!
Post by: paperassgasket on Mon, 24 January 2022, 13:19:57
front printed legends make my wallet feel funny.

I agree that I wish the alt alphas were in base, but I also understand how much it increases the cost.

I like how you rolled 40's / ortho / accents all into one kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate
Post by: s8erdude on Wed, 16 February 2022, 08:35:40
Quote from: s8erdude on Thu, 30 December 2021, 08:07:20
  • 02/16/2022: Some collabs announced.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - Resin Artisan Collabs Announced!
Post by: s8erdude on Wed, 16 February 2022, 08:35:56
02/16/2022: Some collabs announced.

EDIT: Not sure why GeekHack decided to double post this, sorry y'all
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - Artisan Collabs Announced!
Post by: vkeycaps on Wed, 16 February 2022, 11:06:28
Full size, or 120 render would look better with this kit. Otherwise looks nice
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - Artisan Minibars Announced
Post by: s8erdude on Fri, 25 February 2022, 07:52:58
02/25/2022: Artisan Minibars announced.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - Artisan Minibars Announced
Post by: moyu.studio on Sat, 26 February 2022, 06:02:21
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - GB APRIL 18th!
Post by: s8erdude on Tue, 22 March 2022, 08:49:33
Bumping for GB Date Announcement!!!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate - GB APRIL 18th!
Post by: s8erdude on Mon, 04 April 2022, 08:42:46
Bumping for last collab announcement!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate- PRICING ANNOUNCED - GB APRIL 18th - MAY 20th
Post by: s8erdude on Thu, 14 April 2022, 10:24:22
Final Bump for Pricing! :p :p :p :p :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :p :p :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate- PRICING ANNOUNCED - GB APRIL 18th - MAY 20th
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 19 April 2022, 17:41:34
NE Link to GB post avail?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate- PRICING ANNOUNCED - GB APRIL 18th - MAY 20th
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 20 April 2022, 02:54:36
That vintage look - as if it needs some. Retrobright...glwgb!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Estate- PRICING ANNOUNCED - GB APRIL 18th - MAY 20th
Post by: TheNeonKnight on Fri, 29 April 2022, 09:20:52
Are the 10u bars 7u stabbed or normal 10u stabbed?