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Title: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: doggo1dance on Wed, 09 February 2022, 04:58:02
just curious, will geekhack ever be updated in the future?
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 09 February 2022, 09:19:52
My guess is that we are accustomed to it and see no reason to change for the sake of change.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 09 February 2022, 11:45:27
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on my phone

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The underlying concept of the keyboard is that it is a peripheral device connected to a computer.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: butre on Wed, 09 February 2022, 12:17:21
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on my phone

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The underlying concept of the keyboard is that it is a peripheral device connected to a computer.
I'm typing this on a solid state capacitive keyboard with haptic feedback intended for and succeeding at emulating tactility.  its integrated into my oneplus 8.  the tech here is cool as hell.  the underlying concept of a keyboard is that it's an input device for sending text to a screen, and I don't believe being integrated into the screen discounts it from being a keyboard.  as long as the end result is good I think we're kosher.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 February 2022, 14:16:41
just curious, will geekhack ever be updated in the future?

What sort of updates are you looking for?
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 09 February 2022, 14:27:06
"Updated" should be in quotes.

And I seriously hope not.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 09 February 2022, 15:02:33
What sort of updates are you looking for?

what about Polls !!

and we should run a gekha Gatcha' game on the CPU..

Also Gekha Crypto Currency... Yeeeeeaaa... Buddy


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Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: doggo1dance on Thu, 10 February 2022, 04:06:31
just curious, will geekhack ever be updated in the future?

What sort of updates are you looking for?

design overhaul? proly not. maybe just some additional features like polls, or enhancement of account features like actually being allowed to delete aco****s.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Sintpinty on Fri, 11 February 2022, 12:52:59
just curious, will geekhack ever be updated in the future?

Don't fix what already works
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: iri on Fri, 11 February 2022, 14:38:11
deleting accounts doesn't work
neither does deleting posts
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 11 February 2022, 15:13:46
What sort of updates are you looking for?

what about Polls !!

and we should run a gekha Gatcha' game on the CPU..

Also Gekha Crypto Currency... Yeeeeeaaa... Buddy


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Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 11 February 2022, 15:44:52
deleting accounts doesn't work
neither does deleting posts

If you run a website, NEVER delete user accounts.

On my chat forums, pretty much any time someone asked to delete an account within a week later I would get a message asking for information on said user because they had ripped someone off, and because that account was gone so was the email and IP address as well as any other info about themselves they had posted that could have been used to help find the person. It almost never failed.

What I ended up doing instead was locking the account so even that user had no way to alter any of it and try to hide anything.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Darthbaggins on Tue, 15 February 2022, 12:34:04
I don't see a need to update the site, the forum's format works well and is simple to learn quickly.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 15 February 2022, 12:57:52
I don't see a need to update the site, the forum's format works well and is simple to learn quickly.

Tp4 want Gekha Crypto....  (https://i.imgur.com/WMyOfxs.gif)
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: butre on Tue, 15 February 2022, 15:57:14
deleting accounts doesn't work
neither does deleting posts

If you run a website, NEVER delete user accounts.

On my chat forums, pretty much any time someone asked to delete an account within a week later I would get a message asking for information on said user because they had ripped someone off, and because that account was gone so was the email and IP address as well as any other info about themselves they had posted that could have been used to help find the person. It almost never failed.

What I ended up doing instead was locking the account so even that user had no way to alter any of it and try to hide anything.
if you run a website you need to be able to delete the account for GDPR compliance.  can't legally serve the EU otherwise
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: iri on Tue, 15 February 2022, 16:31:50
deleting accounts doesn't work
neither does deleting posts

If you run a website, NEVER delete user accounts.

On my chat forums, pretty much any time someone asked to delete an account within a week later I would get a message asking for information on said user because they had ripped someone off, and because that account was gone so was the email and IP address as well as any other info about themselves they had posted that could have been used to help find the person. It almost never failed.

What I ended up doing instead was locking the account so even that user had no way to alter any of it and try to hide anything.
if you run a website you need to be able to delete the account for GDPR compliance.  can't legally serve the EU otherwise
Oh that's an interesting idea.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Leslieann on Tue, 15 February 2022, 20:01:29
deleting accounts doesn't work
neither does deleting posts

If you run a website, NEVER delete user accounts.

On my chat forums, pretty much any time someone asked to delete an account within a week later I would get a message asking for information on said user because they had ripped someone off, and because that account was gone so was the email and IP address as well as any other info about themselves they had posted that could have been used to help find the person. It almost never failed.

What I ended up doing instead was locking the account so even that user had no way to alter any of it and try to hide anything.
if you run a website you need to be able to delete the account for GDPR compliance.  can't legally serve the EU otherwise

My policy eventually became I would lock the account and if they wanted it deleted they would have to ask again in a few months, to make sure no surprises turned up.
Any guesses how many actually bothered? Not a single one in the last 10 years.


As for GDPR,
No one is actually deleting data, they're just hiding it from you.
The very same people passing those laws are the same people who want that data preserved in case you break the law. Same goes for encryption, they don't want you encrypting your messages, but then they're going to let you just delete the data? See the conflict here?
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: butre on Wed, 16 February 2022, 10:11:00
deleting accounts doesn't work
neither does deleting posts

If you run a website, NEVER delete user accounts.

On my chat forums, pretty much any time someone asked to delete an account within a week later I would get a message asking for information on said user because they had ripped someone off, and because that account was gone so was the email and IP address as well as any other info about themselves they had posted that could have been used to help find the person. It almost never failed.

What I ended up doing instead was locking the account so even that user had no way to alter any of it and try to hide anything.
if you run a website you need to be able to delete the account for GDPR compliance.  can't legally serve the EU otherwise

My policy eventually became I would lock the account and if they wanted it deleted they would have to ask again in a few months, to make sure no surprises turned up.
Any guesses how many actually bothered? Not a single one in the last 10 years.


As for GDPR,
No one is actually deleting data, they're just hiding it from you.
The very same people passing those laws are the same people who want that data preserved in case you break the law. Same goes for encryption, they don't want you encrypting your messages, but then they're going to let you just delete the data? See the conflict here?
any website that just hides the data is not GDPR compliant.  the law is pretty explicit about how it's meant to be handled.  your timeline of "a few months" runs afoul of the GDPR's "without undue delay" clause, more than a month is considered an undue delay.

unless you're in the medical field or doing scientific or historical research the only times you don't have to delete data by request is if that data is being used in a legal proceeding, that's what's meant to keep everything else flowing smoothly.

also this is EU law, not American law.  EU lawmakers aren't in the business of protecting corporate interests and they're not in the business of filling for-profit prisons.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 16 February 2022, 15:56:47
any website that just hides the data is not GDPR compliant.

OH NO!

Anyways.


E.U. law, Russian Law, Chinese law...
Pass all the laws you want but that data is not going to be deleted, you're going to have to pry it from their cold, dead hands... Before another company buys it at the auction and repeats the cycle. They will never give up that data and any report to the contrary is a lie.

Fun fact, it's almost impossible to serve the U.S., E.U. and Russia without breaking at least one data retention law.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: butre on Wed, 16 February 2022, 21:52:03
any website that just hides the data is not GDPR compliant.

OH NO!

Anyways.


E.U. law, Russian Law, Chinese law...
Pass all the laws you want but that data is not going to be deleted, you're going to have to pry it from their cold, dead hands... Before another company buys it at the auction and repeats the cycle. They will never give up that data and any report to the contrary is a lie.

Fun fact, it's almost impossible to serve the U.S., E.U. and Russia without breaking at least one data retention law.
there are no equivalents to the GDPR in the US and no mandatary data retention laws.  Unless you're trying to tap into the Chinese market, the only ones to bother with are EU laws.

I don't know about Russian laws, and I don't know about your stats, but about 95% of activity from Russia on websites I manage are bots probing for SQL vulnerabilities, so I don't particularly care for or about the Russian market.  As for China, I'm already blocked by the great firewall.

I'm not sure crying about how other websites are hoarding data too is a good excuse for you to be noncompliant.  you wouldn't follow pol pot, so why follow zuckerberg?
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 16 February 2022, 22:52:14
I'm not sure crying about how other websites are hoarding data too is a good excuse for you to be noncompliant.  you wouldn't follow pol pot, so why follow zuckerberg?
Who's crying?
I don't live in the E.U., my websites are not in the E.U.

My policy was in effect before GDPR or Zuck was really a thing and I already stated why.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: Darthbaggins on Fri, 18 February 2022, 10:38:37
Why be compliant with GDPR when I have no business in the EU market at this time, and more than likely would make a separate entity to do so in on that side to be "compliant".  Thinking Corps in EU are fully compliant, you're being naive to most giants within each industry who work through loopholes and have their shady sides.
Title: Re: will geekhack website be updated?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 18 February 2022, 10:55:36
Why be compliant with GDPR when I have no business in the EU market at this time, and more than likely would make a separate entity to do so in on that side to be "compliant".  Thinking Corps in EU are fully compliant, you're being naive to most giants within each industry who work through loopholes and have their shady sides.

We'd have to be compliant when  GekhaDoge crypto comes to market.


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