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Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Teckman on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:29:03
Hello, I am having a problem during gaming where my system seems to think I have a key held down on my board that I do not in fact have held down.  It happens mostly with ctrl and shift in Starcraft 2 but I have also seen it with WASD in Quake 3.  I do not have sticky keys on.  I remember having it happen very rarely with my old cheap logitech usb board.  It happens only when I am playing very fast.  Pressing the key that is stuck again will make it recognize I have lifted off that key.

Recently I purchased a Samsung DT-35 Qsenn from Korea.  It is a PS/2 board.  This board is the most popular one used by professional Starcraft players over there so I am almost certain it can't be a limitation of the board.  Is mine a dud?  Do I have some setting wrong?

Any ideas?

Thank you.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:30:44
Quote from: Teckman;223095
Hello, I am having a problem during gaming where my system seems to think I have a key held down on my board that I do not in fact have held down.  It happens mostly with ctrl and shift in Starcraft 2 but I have also seen it with WASD in Quake 3.  I do not have sticky keys on.  I remember having it happen very rarely with my old cheap logitech usb board.  It happens only when I am playing very fast.  Pressing the key that is stuck again will make it recognize I have lifted off that key.

Recently I purchased a Samsung DT-35 Qsenn from Korea.  It is a PS/2 board.  This board is the most popular one used by professional Starcraft players over there so I am almost certain it can't be a limitation of the board.  Is mine a dud?  Do I have some setting wrong?

Any ideas?

Thank you.


That's happened to me once or twice on a couple keyboards...I unplugged/re-plugged it and it never did it again. Did you try that?
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Teckman on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:39:34
lol no I didn't :X

should I do that while the computer is on or no?  it is a ps/2 board.  I heard it is ok to unplug and replug as long as it is the same device or very similar device.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:40:28
Quote from: Teckman;223099
lol no I didn't :X

should I do that while the computer is on or no?  it is a ps/2 board.  I heard it is ok to unplug and replug as long as it is the same device or very similar device.


Yea keep the computer on and do it pretty much right after it happens.

EDIT: Oh yea, and welcome to GeekHack =)
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:40:33
I get this sometimes when gaming, on more than one PC. It seems possible for Windows to get out of sync with reality (!). Whether it's Window's fault or due to all the extra controllers I use I don't know. Could even be Logitech SetPoint, that is common to all my PCs. But then so are several other things.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:45:05
I think the reason those things are popular is because they are cheap. I don't think there's anything particularly special about them.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Teckman on Tue, 14 September 2010, 06:47:55
they have the tiered height key layout instead of flat keys, I think that is a big part of the popularity.  but yeah it's probably people buying them when they are just poor gamers and not wanting to switch keyboards once they start making money at the game.  I got it half for cool factor.


Quote from: keyboardlover;223100

EDIT: Oh yea, and welcome to GeekHack =)
thanks, I have been lurking for a bit and this problem is really aggravating now.  I almost have enough saved up for a FILCO though :)
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 14 September 2010, 07:44:31
So this happened with your previous keyboard too occasionally... I assume you're saying that it happens with the new one a lot more?

What interface does the Samsung connect by?
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 14 September 2010, 10:34:24
Laser etched keys (on the one in the pic, anyway) doesn't hurt either.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Teckman on Wed, 15 September 2010, 10:44:12
Quote from: ch_123;223115
So this happened with your previous keyboard too occasionally... I assume you're saying that it happens with the new one a lot more?

What interface does the Samsung connect by?


Yes that's correct, it's much more frequent now.  I tried unplugging and replugging after it happened and it still did it a little later.  This keyboard connects via ps/2.  I am not using an adapter, it just comes with a ps/2 cord.  It is plugged into the correct port (purple).  Windows auto detected it and installed drivers.  The manufacturer does not provide drivers that I know of.  I don't know what to do next to try to troubleshoot this problem.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Arc'xer on Wed, 15 September 2010, 13:38:18
Quote from: ch_123;223103
I think the reason those things are popular is because they are cheap. I don't think there's anything particularly special about them.


Nope nothing special just cheaply available. Gets recognition for being used by better players hence monkey see, monkey do syndrome.

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=9595 (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=9595)
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Viett on Wed, 15 September 2010, 14:50:38
Quote from: ripster;223172

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SeleCT  (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SeleCT)is definitely Korean ;).
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: woody on Wed, 15 September 2010, 17:08:23
Quote from: ripster;223607
PS/2 implementation on many motherboards sucks (not enough power).

I had at least two ASUS products, expensive motherboard and a cheap netbook, which had one weak USB port. :( Wasted precious time and nerves on why mouse was resetting randomly until finding this stupid reason. Not to mention external USB hard-drives.
They just don't make anything like they used to ... (the world, not ASUS specifically)
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Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Teckman on Wed, 15 September 2010, 23:43:01
Thanks ripster, I have a blue cube in the mail.  Unfortunately it will take a week to get here =/

I do have an ASUS motherboard btw.  Hopefully this fixes it.  Otherwise I have to decide if the FILCO is still worth it in light of the DAS 25% off and free shipping student discount promotion.
Title: Keys getting stuck (not physically)
Post by: Teckman on Thu, 23 September 2010, 01:25:14
The adapter arrived a couple of days ago and the problem has not happened since.  Thank you very much guys, you saved me a lot of money here.