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Title: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Tue, 15 March 2022, 08:41:57

Hi yall!
This is an update to an IC that is over 2 years old.
I’ll try to keep it brief here; saving the older IC contents for posterity - you can check them out in the first reply below.
K, here we go:

PAL
Your friendly neighborhood 60%
ft. an exploded arrow key cluster

(https://i.imgur.com/dHluZ7y.jpeg)

PAL is a layout I have been personally using for over 3 years now - It suits my needs perfectly and I am pretty much contented with daily driving it for the rest of my life.
It may have taken a while, but I'm very excited to finally be able to make available to anyone else who might be interested.
Not going to make a pretense of presenting something groundbreaking here - PAL is a very simple keyboard; hardly competitive against a lot of the stuff you can buy for less money nowadays - but it is still my favorite one nonetheless.
I just hope some of you will like it, too.

Render Gallery

(https://i.imgur.com/P25nBEX.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/645ngmq.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CjSSfkJ.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/HsOTkdp.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dKXUOEo.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/ra2Fuq3.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/93G9s58.jpg)

NTSC Artisan

An R4 1.25U artisan will come included with every PAL kit and is going to be color-matched to the keyboard case.

(https://i.imgur.com/FxJWNvl.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A8DED4d.jpeg)

Product Information

Specs:
6063 alu top & bottom
Tadpole mount
6° typing angle
17.5mm front height, 21.50mm adjusted:
(https://i.imgur.com/g30qaSi.png)

Options
Colors: Grey, Green, Lilac
Plates: FR4, PC, Alu
Solderable & hotswap PCBs by Yiancar:
(https://i.imgur.com/CVOcYoo.png)

GB Info:
Price: starting at US$230 for a kit
GB dates: Jul 23 - ~~Aug 16~~Aug 23 of the current year of our lord ~~2022~~ ~~2023~~ 2024 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vendors:
Protozoa Studio (https://protozoa.studio/collections/keyboards) (worldwide)
zFrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/vendors?q=PROTOZOA) (CN & worldwide)

Prototype Photo Gallery

(https://i.imgur.com/oBivt9L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IiHv8yM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/WOIMEXg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CRsrSrG.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/MF03DAH.jpg)

Misc

Timothy (Akuko Labs) built a PAL proto and took some cool shots of it a while back;
you can check them out at his IG:

(https://i.imgur.com/jWa8MK1.png) (https://www.instagram.com/akukolabs/reel/C14iUURMsH8/) (https://i.imgur.com/tOM7qlN.png) (https://www.instagram.com/akukolabs/p/C1CexP6MUaX/)

And last but not least:
Alexotos build stream (VOD) (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2225279073)

Cheers everyone,
Dimsum

Discord Links

(https://i.imgur.com/OpnvLTt.png) (https://discord.gg/dNvkkmgY2E) (https://i.imgur.com/FbDQge6.png) (https://discord.gg/GbQS2c3)

Signature code in case you would like to support the project:

Code: [Select]

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Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Tue, 15 March 2022, 08:42:52

Misc Fluff
Saving for posterity, please ignore.

Conceptualization (2021)

I first started playing with this layout in early 2021, making a really crappy 3d-printed handwire to test out my exploded arrow cluster idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/v60Txu1.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/MaAa8l6.jpeg)
I ended up loving it so much that I committed to making a "proper" version of the board. Updated version was much simpler and cleaner, featuring tadpole mount; printed in SLA and built with a prototype PCB.
(https://i.imgur.com/LivCqDu.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/GZ79U1w.jpeg)

Original IC & 1st Prototype(March-May 2022)

This is PAL from the original IC. It was simpler and cruder than the current design, but nonetheless pretty fun to type on.
(https://i.imgur.com/FXvdQ57.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/q7E5HED.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DXWhVcK.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/L07rZ5X.jpeg)

A Singaporean builder fatboychard (https://www.twitch.tv/fatboychard) did a build stream of it, sound test clip here (https://www.twitch.tv/fatboychard/clip/CaringSpotlessSangBrainSlug-1Y2EFSQb9bMzMUpL)
(https://i.imgur.com/wrgvfb5.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/s50Rl4m.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1tCnd78.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/oWdpvaC.jpeg)

2nd&3rd Prototype (Aug 2022)

The second prototype was made at a different factory and featured an updated design that is 99% similar to the current PAL.
(https://i.imgur.com/9Ihmy5b.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/Mxx63TB.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/01GG9uG.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/8cNNSCh.jpeg)
Ultimately, It had a lot of imperfections on the interior finishing, so we ended up re-ordering it again and getting those addressed. Nothing to look at here because #3 looked pretty much identical to #2 from the outside.

What happened since?

Oof that's a tough one.

The design of the board has been pretty much completed since mid-late 2022 but then life got kind of crazy for everyone involved in the project.
I changed countries, states, jobs and overall went through a lot of stuff in 2022-2023. Then it got crazy for the guys at Protozoa, too - and PAL has been placed on a back burner for much too long.

We (Protozoa & I) originally hoped to make it an in-stock product, but it eventually became apparent that Protozoa won't be able to swing such a deal. Meanwhile we changed factories 2 more times (4 manufacturers total - and probably around 7-8 total prototypes, I'm not even sure on the final number) trying to find the best price-to-quality ratio we could.
We slowly finalized things like PCB design and packaging and got a really good deal on the artisans (they were originally planned as an add-on but now we can essentially include them in the kit for free which we are all very excited about).
(https://i.imgur.com/VfgG0U8.jpeg)(https://i.imgur.com/8hzX6lm.jpeg)

So It's not like nothing at all has been done since 2022, but the progress has definitely been much slower than desired or anticipated. We fully understand that a lot of momentum got lost through the waiting game and It is going to be harder reaching the MOQ now than it would have been 1 or 2 years ago - but we are have a good amount of faith in PAL and are really determined to make it happen.
(https://i.imgur.com/bks8WWz.png)

Cheers,
Dimsum.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Biscuit on Tue, 15 March 2022, 08:58:51

GLWIC. There were quite a bit of people who are interested in seeing exploded arrows on a 60, but didn't agree with removing the right shift.
So this is a great option for those people.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: unwashed_heathen on Tue, 15 March 2022, 09:26:48

In love with this layout. 60% boards have never been for me, but PAL has me sold. Will be keeping an eye on this for sure! Although I would like to see some more interesting color options.

With this board coming from the Banana Stand I'm going to need to see a banana colored PAL :D.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: stotle.caps on Tue, 15 March 2022, 09:40:23

GLWIC, pretty interesting layout, rlly like the simple design and the price i rlly like it

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: noctoornal on Tue, 15 March 2022, 09:45:38

really loving the layout, so unique and having an exploded arrow keys on a 60% is a definitely buy for me

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: linell on Tue, 15 March 2022, 09:53:14

I hate 64 key but this is cool :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Zyrophr on Tue, 15 March 2022, 10:09:58

Really like the design, looks nice to me. Too bad I'm a right-shift user.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: m1gs on Tue, 15 March 2022, 11:09:48

count me in!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Croktopus on Tue, 15 March 2022, 11:45:17

Hey this layout is actually nice

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 15 March 2022, 12:24:35

Great job. I really like this layout more than the recently IC'd ones. This has really grabbed my attention.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: kbye on Tue, 15 March 2022, 14:22:32

I like this
led indicator and the raised booty are a nice touch

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 15 March 2022, 14:24:31

I love those chamfers.
Overall design is really nice. Typing angle is very preferable. I'm not a fan of exposed screw holes, but I'm not offended here. Would prefer not to see them but it's not a dealbreaker.
I actually kinda like that seam too.

Only issue I could see is the plate potentially smacking the underside of the arrows since it's tadpole mount.

Full disclosure: I abhor having the shift all the way out past arrows, and I also hate arrows, prefer split shift or at least 7u and I'm STILL interested in this if that tells you anything about how aesthetically pleasing it is.

That indicator is kyoot af.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Ustinj on Tue, 15 March 2022, 15:28:27

I like the beveled front face of the top case, GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: chris_ on Tue, 15 March 2022, 15:32:24

this looks really clean, nice work!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: JJ48_24 on Tue, 15 March 2022, 15:43:43

Damn renders look great and the design is super clean. Definitely a board I will be following. GLWIC!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Takkun on Tue, 15 March 2022, 16:51:46

Wow this is a really interesting concept! I love how the arrow keys are weaved in there in the most unintrusive way. This might actually be the first 60% that I can actually see myself using.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: JQ27 on Tue, 15 March 2022, 17:10:51

I like it. As an ISO user I'd need to find two 1.25u shifts, but on the flipside I never use right shift, so I guess it's a bonus Ctrl or the FN key for me.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: potato_panda- on Wed, 16 March 2022, 00:24:56

GLWIC. Looks very interesting, would you consider adding split spacebar support?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Treasure on Wed, 16 March 2022, 10:36:33

Love the layout :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: djmantis on Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:48:56

This looks great! Can you provide the actual height of the front? You stated it is low, but I would like to know that actual measurement. Thank you!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: conternecticus on Wed, 16 March 2022, 13:10:25

This layout looks great! Would love to see more one more color option (maybe purple/lilac would be cool).
Can't wait for the sound test of this board. GLWIC!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Wed, 16 March 2022, 13:57:23

Quote from: djmantis on Wed, 16 March 2022, 12:48:56

This looks great! Can you provide the actual height of the front? You stated it is low, but I would like to know that actual measurement. Thank you!

Thanks!
edit: adding the measurements into the spec list

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: djmantis on Wed, 16 March 2022, 15:02:01

Beautiful! Thank you!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Ghostinn on Wed, 16 March 2022, 19:28:21

I am not a fan of 60s, but I would absolutely consider buying this beauty. Great job on this!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: TranquilMarmot on Thu, 17 March 2022, 01:29:06

Love it. Tiny lil right shift and the light are awesome. The green looks really nice!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: QWER|key on Thu, 17 March 2022, 03:30:13

I really love this design but that lack of right shift will kill me. :(

Good look with the IC

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Malvix Studio on Thu, 17 March 2022, 03:55:36

Layout is definitely unconventional, but cool nonetheless! Sometimes I feel like I'm one of the few who actively swaps between left and right shift, haha. Bezel proportions look spot on though, great job!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Getsome!!! on Thu, 17 March 2022, 05:47:55

Dope layout! I would of coarse replace that useless R-shift with a FN key or something if i were doing a build on it, but dope none the less. I have to pass becasue the bezels are way too small for me though. I'm sure the more dainty folks will love it though.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: m1gs on Fri, 18 March 2022, 05:46:46

What is the led on the lower right for? Is that a capslock indicator?

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Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Fri, 18 March 2022, 10:54:36

Quote from: m1gs on Fri, 18 March 2022, 05:46:46

What is the led on the lower right for? Is that a capslock indicator?

just an ambient RGB bar, not indicating anything in particular; think of it as a badge.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: conternecticus on Fri, 18 March 2022, 21:18:10

Would half plate work on this board?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Vibex on Sat, 19 March 2022, 06:30:12

Any chance of getting some split spacebar support? Would be an instant buy for me if it did

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Sun, 20 March 2022, 04:30:58

Quote from: conternecticus on Fri, 18 March 2022, 21:18:10

Would half plate work on this board?

I dont see why not.
I have no plans of making one, but I will release the plate files in case anyone wants to make/run their own.

Quote from: Vibex on Sat, 19 March 2022, 06:30:12

Any chance of getting some split spacebar support? Would be an instant buy for me if it did

A few people asked for this feature, I will think about it.
Even if the final pcb had the support for it - im against making the default universal plate look like a cheese grater. Might also look into options of open sourcing the pcb files for people who want to add their own split-sb support or more obscure layouts (minila/jis, 6u, 7u, knobs etc etc).
Again, if there is enough people that really want it - perhaps it can be run as a separate small gb.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Sun, 20 March 2022, 04:47:58

the leds in the bottom right corner adds aomething to it I like it personally :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: HappyB0T on Sun, 20 March 2022, 06:01:30

I like the disco light.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: SafeAtShore on Sun, 20 March 2022, 15:41:17

Agreed with others that this just looks aesthetically pleasing. Nice.

Also want to point out that folks can just use mod tap in QMK (assuming this PCB supports it) to combine forward slash/question mark with R Shift. IMO, it's comfy and works--and that far right key can be used as Fn like on a typical HHKB layout.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: VaporKeebs on Sun, 20 March 2022, 18:43:49

I will be getting this no matter what. Oh my god.

I will likely get a hotswap version but honestly I want to at some point get a solder mk and ship it out to taeha just so I can have a taeha build. But told myself it would have to be a soldered mk so maybe itll be this.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: rndr on Mon, 21 March 2022, 05:43:04

Right shift is a must for me. Passing this one!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Lincolnworks on Mon, 21 March 2022, 07:09:02

The layout seems cool and unique, but honestly not for me. I'd prefer a 65% much more. ;D

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 21 March 2022, 11:06:13

I hope hotswap layout is split backspace (or has both compatible). Beautiful looking board!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: JackPikatea on Mon, 21 March 2022, 15:40:30

It's always a blast to see new layout. As a 60% fan, I can definitely see myself liking the layout. I typically use this layout except it's with layers and and a function key. I think a lot of others do too.

Nice work!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: spedywin on Mon, 21 March 2022, 22:45:31

interesting, glwic

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: nqbshas on Tue, 22 March 2022, 02:51:24

Fresh and clean design. Good luck!

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Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: m1gs on Wed, 23 March 2022, 19:53:07

Quote from: dimsum on Fri, 18 March 2022, 10:54:36

Quote from: m1gs on Fri, 18 March 2022, 05:46:46
What is the led on the lower right for? Is that a capslock indicator?

just an ambient RGB bar, not indicating anything in particular; think of it as a badge.

Oh okay. Bummer. I really love keyboard size like this one, but I kept wishing a capslock indicator would be a feature cause it's a struggle for me.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Thockologist on Thu, 24 March 2022, 09:34:25

This has to be my new favorite compact layout, I'm really, really excited for this. It looks great and still has the beloved arrow keys at 60% size.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: conternecticus on Fri, 25 March 2022, 11:35:24

Would be cool if the LED bar can be programmed to show current layer, or caps lock is on or off.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: ylothar on Fri, 25 March 2022, 15:48:35

Quote from: conternecticus on Fri, 25 March 2022, 11:35:24

Would be cool if the LED bar can be programmed to show current layer, or caps lock is on or off.

+1 :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: ShuggaShane on Fri, 25 March 2022, 16:57:32

Take my money now please and thank you

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: TQuest on Sat, 26 March 2022, 17:11:16

Filled out the IC Form. GLWIC

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Neely_12 on Mon, 28 March 2022, 14:18:04

Please offer more plates. Alu, PC, PP. Any of those

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: conternecticus on Tue, 05 April 2022, 03:05:58

Quote from: Neely_12 on Mon, 28 March 2022, 14:18:04

Please offer more plates. Alu, PC, PP. Any of those

Plate file made available after fulfillment is good enough I guess...

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: uwumi on Wed, 06 April 2022, 03:58:17

i really like the look of this case! glwic :D

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: aerosoul on Wed, 06 April 2022, 15:38:18

Been wanting something like this for YEARS til the other day I finally decided to ask (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116786.0). A good Samaritan pointed me to your thread. What a beautiful thing! Make it happen, pretty please!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: granola bar enthusiast on Wed, 06 April 2022, 16:11:58

don't think i will be able to join the gb but i really love the layout, wonder how 7u spacebar would change out the layout

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works - Proto sound test
Post by: conternecticus on Mon, 09 May 2022, 09:41:14

Here is a build stream of the first prototype: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1478238289

I think the board looks great, hoping to see more exciting case color options.

Soundtest (with 30A tadpoles): https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringSpotlessSangBrainSlug-1Y2EFSQb9bMzMUpL

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works - Proto sound test
Post by: dimsum on Wed, 18 May 2022, 09:49:46

Quote from: conternecticus on Mon, 09 May 2022, 09:41:14

Here is a build stream of the first prototype: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1478238289

I think the board looks great, hoping to see more exciting case color options.

Soundtest (with 30A tadpoles): https://clips.twitch.tv/CaringSpotlessSangBrainSlug-1Y2EFSQb9bMzMUpL

Thank you for clipping that, im putting the link into the UPD post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116569.msg3115503#msg3115503).

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Tsenohebot on Sun, 26 June 2022, 16:23:47

Just wanted to say I love this so muchhh! I'd def buy more than one,, when this comes to GB!!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Akele on Sun, 26 June 2022, 18:50:03

I don't normally have any interest in 60% boards, but this one is very cute. Who needs dedicated page up and page down keys anyway!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Luna on Wed, 06 July 2022, 22:29:12

Subbed.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: phinix on Thu, 07 July 2022, 03:19:05

Nice! This is how ANSI HHKB should be done! :D

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Jho on Fri, 08 July 2022, 18:54:57

Ya know, I already have a 60% I'm pretty dang happy with, but I can't help but be interested in this.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Homiezoned on Sun, 17 July 2022, 23:52:18

The layout is cool, love the design. Never enough 60s :D

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Luna on Mon, 18 July 2022, 00:00:25

Yep, love the layout, I hope this one makes it to GB.
I like the silver and green.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Iciycle on Sat, 23 July 2022, 12:54:25

I like this.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Luna on Sat, 23 July 2022, 12:55:42

Yep, if this goes up I’ll get me one.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: phinix on Mon, 25 July 2022, 03:02:10

Would it possible to add small "indents" on the sides, so it would be easier to grab it?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: ReverbSlush on Mon, 25 July 2022, 06:12:20

Quote from: ReverbSlush on Mon, 21 March 2022, 11:06:13

I hope hotswap layout is split backspace (or has both compatible). Beautiful looking board!

Looks like the hotswap layout from the discord has this! if that's correct then I'm IN.

Side note: I wish more hotswap boards did this, even if a switch has to be oriented upsidedown or something to accommodate. For example - the ikki68 seems to cover all sorts of different layouts while still being hotswap.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: infinitum on Mon, 25 July 2022, 13:05:26

looks amazing, love that you kept right shift. really hoping the led can be used as an indicator light for like caps.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Rilow on Wed, 10 August 2022, 05:50:26

I'm all for it

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Luna on Tue, 16 August 2022, 08:59:06

Actually, strong vote for the green! :)

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Rilow on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:22:14

Any news on this?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: irithyll on Mon, 12 September 2022, 15:47:36

Quote from: Rilow on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:22:14

Any news on this?

2nd prototype photos were posted on the discord a few weeks ago. The third proto has been ordered and the pcb is being improved.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Mad_Rhetoric on Fri, 24 March 2023, 12:44:35

Is she dead Jim?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: chancellorr on Sat, 07 October 2023, 21:04:16

I got to try this board at a meetup today and I have to say I absolutely love it. Hoping this will be able to move forward.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: stomaha on Sun, 08 October 2023, 14:21:53

if bg, i buy

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: SirYeetWilliams on Mon, 09 October 2023, 13:33:16

w e l i k e o u r p a l

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Thumb Key on Mon, 09 October 2023, 21:56:21

This layout looks great! I like 60 with the exploded arrows and don't want to removing the right shift.
nice work! GLWIC!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 17 October 2023, 00:34:40

got to check this board out in person. It is stunning. Quality of the finish was hands down one of the best I have seen.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Rilow on Sun, 19 November 2023, 12:14:44

Is this dead?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: lecorsair on Mon, 20 November 2023, 10:48:55

Quote from: Rilow on Sun, 19 November 2023, 12:14:44

Is this dead?

No. According to their discord, they received their latest prototype and in process of being photographed(a few weeks ago).

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: takuto on Tue, 21 November 2023, 10:32:05

Quote from: Rilow on Sun, 19 November 2023, 12:14:44

Is this dead?

Not dead. According to the latest Discord discussion, we're waiting on new proto photos and pricing, hopefully soon.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: PrizeOcelot5911 on Fri, 24 November 2023, 04:08:13

Really like the layout of this keyboard. :cool:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: reeeyouuuuu on Fri, 16 February 2024, 08:00:07

need a pal, have no pal...

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: geec on Mon, 19 February 2024, 09:03:14

I'm in! GLWIC :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Mon, 15 July 2024, 23:45:25

Bump.
2-year old IC updated, GB date announced (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116569.msg3115501#msg3115501)

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Zyrophr on Tue, 16 July 2024, 04:38:18

rip silver :(

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Randomlosername on Tue, 16 July 2024, 06:44:31

Holy crap it is gonna be a thing finally. My Univers will have a little brother lol.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 16 July 2024, 13:36:53

Hey there buddy, old pal! :p

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: mr_foggy on Tue, 16 July 2024, 17:23:50

good price, nice board!

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Mon, 22 July 2024, 02:50:12

Is this an unlimited group buy? Also, what's the ETA for fulfillment? Q1 2025? Q2?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: LASERman Projects on Mon, 22 July 2024, 06:49:04

Quote from: QWER|key on Thu, 17 March 2022, 03:30:13

I really love this design but that lack of right shift will kill me. :(

If you look closely you should find there is right Shift - it is small but it's there.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: dimsum on Mon, 22 July 2024, 12:29:55

Quote from: MartinThePolarBear on Mon, 22 July 2024, 02:50:12

Is this an unlimited group buy? Also, what's the ETA for fulfillment? Q1 2025? Q2?

GB is unlimited with the ~250 MOQ
Protozoa and the factory are projecting a turnaround time of about 4-6 months - so the delivery target would be Q4.2024-Q1.2025

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: crowcrowcrow on Tue, 23 July 2024, 01:08:58

i loved the univers board so i love this
goated :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Xinn3r on Tue, 13 August 2024, 22:18:33

So uh... is the Alex stream still happening? Was hoping to get more sound test and build review for this board but I can't seem to find any.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 14 August 2024, 11:58:13

Quote from: Xinn3r on Tue, 13 August 2024, 22:18:33

So uh... is the Alex stream still happening? Was hoping to get more sound test and build review for this board but I can't seem to find any.

Same, but waiting for the stream to see what the green looks like before hitting the buy button.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Wed, 14 August 2024, 20:19:26

Alex just said he's building the PAL on Thursday, the last day of the Group Buy. The question is if the Group Buy will be officially extended to accommodate those waiting to see the board built

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: Xinn3r on Fri, 16 August 2024, 12:40:50

So, the VOD dropped!

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2225279073

I wonder if there are going to be changes to the screws based on Alex's feedback.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: @bare on Tue, 12 November 2024, 21:33:49

Any updates regarding the screws?

Looking forward to this kit arriving.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: echeveria on Fri, 07 March 2025, 11:30:54

Is there any update on the group buy, guys?

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: lecorsair on Sat, 08 March 2025, 17:16:42

Quote from: echeveria on Fri, 07 March 2025, 11:30:54

Is there any update on the group buy, guys?

Estimated ship time is around May now, according to their discord channel.

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: MartinThePolarBear on Tue, 08 July 2025, 01:55:45

Quote from: lecorsair on Sat, 08 March 2025, 17:16:42

Quote from: echeveria on Fri, 07 March 2025, 11:30:54
Is there any update on the group buy, guys?

Estimated ship time is around May now, according to their discord channel.

This ages poorly. It's July now...

Title: Re: [IC] PAL by Banana Stand Works
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 09 July 2025, 10:44:58

Quote from: MartinThePolarBear on Tue, 08 July 2025, 01:55:45

Quote from: lecorsair on Sat, 08 March 2025, 17:16:42
Quote from: echeveria on Fri, 07 March 2025, 11:30:54
Is there any update on the group buy, guys?

Estimated ship time is around May now, according to their discord channel.
This ages poorly. It's July now...

Definitely not a good look, and the gb runner being MIA for a bit there and making excuses does give off that vibe...but I will with hold my judgement for a slight bit more.