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Title: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: BruceDinh on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:32:39: (https://i.imgur.com/XyIAFOs.jpg)

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I am delighted to annouce the interest check for my third keyboard project, the CLS-3//88. The previous offerings (CLS-1//87 and CLS-2//65 - https://ori-club.com/collections/ori-classic-series) brought me absolute joy and also a fair share of headache, but I’ve always been priviledged with support from the community, and from friends who help me realize my vision.

The CLS-3//88 is the culmination of everything that I’ve learned so far (achievements and stumbles alike), so there will be signigicant changes in design and also in the way that the product is offered to the public, with the one and only aim of bringing the best experience possible. As always, I am excited to gather invaluable feedback that will guide me in refining the board in the coming months before the official launch.
(https://i.imgur.com/g2YlLjI.jpg)

DESIGN INSPIRATION

After CLS-2//65, I’ve been contemplating ways to add some extra “fanciness” to my following product lineup, without sacrificing the elements of elegance and balance that are consistently instilled in my designs. The name of the game is how to harmonize the newly introduced curves with the stable imagery of the Ori bird flying towards the Sun (but not too close lol), and make the whole execution effortless.

Effortlessness and simplicity

(https://i.imgur.com/q166J0S.png)(https://i.imgur.com/qgjbt5u.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PSNtaAY.png)(https://i.imgur.com/WcRMFyc.png)

OVERALL SPECIFICATIONS

Keyboard layout: F13 WKL
8-part assembly
Top and bottom cases: Alunimum
Internal weight: Brass
External weight: Brass/Stainless Steel
Switch plate:
Isolated gasket mounting
Typing angle: 6 degrees
Front height: 17.8mm
Custom PCB and Daughterboard by Mechlovin’ Studio
(https://i.imgur.com/6jxwO0t.jpg)
TECHNICAL CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS

Mounting and typing feel: I have adjusted the connection positions between the plate and the mount to reduce stiffness in some places.However, as soon as new prototypes are reevaluated. I'll tune in one more time.

Sound: A realistic sound, reflected by a brass

Board assembly: My goal this time is with the assembly method where you will assemble the daughter board in the final stages. The aim is that the pcb will no longer be pinched by wires - affecting the feel of typing.

Packaging: Custom box - In the process of designing and testing

SALE INFO

For the first time ever and likely moving forward, Ori products will be offered through in-stock raffles. While doing traditional group buys makes things a lot simpler in terms of mobilization and logistics, it also puts a considerable amount of pressure on fulfillment, which in certain cases during my previous runs, affected my ability to meet expectations.

Keeping things in-stock, while having a huge financial strain on…, allows me to work at my own pace, and most importantly, mitigates risks to my side instead of my customers.

PROGRESS UPDATE

The first unanodized prototype is already here, and my partners at Mechlovin’and I are inspecting design and assembly elements, before moving towards building and sound testing.

TO-DO LIST
Gather community feedback and work on actionable items
Typing and sound testing
Fine-tune the design and produce new prototypes

IC Form: https://forms.gle/sNrsRr3BujsupKm9A

(https://i.imgur.com/FsAnKdH.png)

CHANGELOG
- Added WK version
- Added Dark Green anodized colour
- Added 1.2mm PCB option

(https://i.imgur.com/Ba996aT.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/SB0JRGp.jpg)
SOCIAL
Website : www.ori-club.com
Discord: https://discord.gg/Rpr4S4eFGB
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ori.club/

If you find it interesting and would like to support me in this project, please use the signature below:

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Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Qwapa on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:35:21: beautiful board :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: andyduong on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:37:49: HOT HOT HOT
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: darthcapn on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:38:58: Yes is all I want to say.
Is it hot? Yes
Will I buy it? Yes
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: wigol2506 on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:42:14: 2//65 was a huge improvement from 1//87 to be very honest. Typing feel and sound was remarkably consistent on the 2//65 even with the bottom row alphas.

Can't wait for this to enter GB.

All the best bruce!
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: sneekypoo on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:56:48: Very nice very nice. Love my 2//65 and this shares similar vibes.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Xanira on Thu, 31 March 2022, 00:57:35: gib
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: steveccccc on Thu, 31 March 2022, 01:18:09: ori the best
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Zyrophr on Thu, 31 March 2022, 02:07:31: I need this. Silver WKL TKL <3
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: kurokamiyuudai on Thu, 31 March 2022, 02:24:02: I am excited for this one.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: techzenario on Thu, 31 March 2022, 02:25:43: Looks awesome! hoping for some ISO support ;-)
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 31 March 2022, 03:36:34: just when you thought ori couldnt get any better. does the side bezel go from thin to thinner to thin again, or is my mind playing games with me?
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Nonnegaard on Thu, 31 March 2022, 03:37:31: Quote from: darthcapn on Wed, 30 March 2022, 23:38:58
Yes is all I want to say.
Is it hot? Yes
Will I buy it? Yes
Can you buy it? Maybe?
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: ign on Thu, 31 March 2022, 07:29:07: Looks dope! Definitelly interested
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: milka158 on Thu, 31 March 2022, 08:06:51: nice. would love to see WK option.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: super7manki on Thu, 31 March 2022, 09:34:16: IC form filled. Super excited to see the overall design.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: asciisii on Thu, 31 March 2022, 11:04:23: in stock nice
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: jaekid on Thu, 31 March 2022, 13:01:47: IC you later ORI CLS-3//88.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: o3okevin on Thu, 31 March 2022, 14:11:30: winkey please!
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 31 March 2022, 18:08:05: Good brushed finish : ) Am a fan !
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 31 March 2022, 20:13:47: Rubber bumpon feet and slightly lower profile would make this perfect!
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: BruceDinh on Thu, 31 March 2022, 23:07:27: Thank you very much, I am very grateful.
I also did not expect IC to get so much attention, I have read all the comments in IC Form.

Changelog:
- Added WK version
- Added Dark Green anodized colour
- Added 1.2mm PCB option

And I'm still listening to everyone's opinions on this design, please cmt here or fill out the form.
IC Form: https://forms.gle/sNrsRr3BujsupKm9A
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: clickpig on Thu, 31 March 2022, 23:32:58: yet another stellar design, glwic!
Title: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Botty212 on Fri, 01 April 2022, 00:48:52: I like it and you for sure have my interest.
Just very unfortunate that I will have to play a game of luck in order to get one🥲
but I understand the why this decision is being made.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 01 April 2022, 04:40:59: color me excited! maybe third times a charm.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: spedywin on Fri, 01 April 2022, 18:08:14: i like this
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: ben56k on Sun, 03 April 2022, 06:03:27: WK dark green, best changelog.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: unusuaL_ on Sun, 03 April 2022, 06:30:03: really liking this one
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 04 April 2022, 04:31:08: Like the other ORI boards, this one is beautiful, alas I have never managed to win a spot on any of them and I don't hold any hope of winning a spot on this one, but it will be beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Scriba on Mon, 04 April 2022, 08:53:22: What a wonderful piece of art. I hope to be part of the lucky ones again, just like with cls-2.

greetings
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: kiyoboard on Mon, 04 April 2022, 20:32:10: I own CLS-1, and even though it has some issues, I like how it sounds, feels and looks. That said, my experience with this designer was pretty bad overall. So, even though I really like this design as well, I am a little cautious.

For the CLS-1, I wanted to buy extra pcb and plate, for which I emailed in the middle of November 2020 which they replied promptly. Similarly, I paid the invoice promptly as well. Then after that it was radio silence for a while. I initially tried to reach them on discord in September and October 2021 which they didn't reply. Then I mentioned about it in their discord which they replied mentioning some delays and issues, but sounded like things are moving. After that it was radio silence again even though they were promoting other stuff including this board. And in September 2022(disregarding couple of emails I sent that are never replied), I asked about the status, which they again replied mentioning some issues with the pcb order quantity being small, and then stopped conversation abruptly when I asked if CLS-3 pcb is going to be interchangeable(thinking that maybe they are going to send it with this board shipment). And eventually I messaged them asking for concrete day or refund 4 days ago, and no reply to that so far either.

Similarly, I believe a lot of people if not everyone from the CLS-1 are waiting for SS replacement parts, and questions about those are not getting answered in discord either.

So, I think it is very likely that if you win the raffle, you will get your board. But based on my experience, if you have any issue with your board, then you are doomed.

Edit: Took time, but I got refunded.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Blamas on Tue, 05 April 2022, 02:30:03: Need one ! Thanks for the wk version.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: FitLabb on Tue, 05 April 2022, 20:09:55: Absolutely beautiful design all around. I actually love the look of unfinished raw aluminum, but look forward to seeing what colors you’ll be offering this in as well. I may have missed if you mentioned this above, but I would greatly prefer a hotswap option if possible, but I understand if you don’t/can’t do that due to the limited run of these that you’ll be offering for sale.

Wishing you all the best with this & hope I end up getting one when it becomes available!
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: less_blank on Tue, 05 April 2022, 21:00:44: I really love the Ori design language but attention to detail/QC and communication as a result of that has definitely been lacking in their first two releases, which is a bit disappointing given the price and the fact that they are clearly trying to position themselves as a premium brand. Still holding out hope this will improve because I do really love the design of their boards and would like to support them.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: bert039 on Sat, 09 April 2022, 12:41:44: Damn really beautiful board and design. A raw metal option like this proto would be amazing.

That said, I'm really hesitant to join if customer feedback from others stays the same and goes unanswered.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: Zlane on Sun, 10 April 2022, 05:48:59: Holy **** they added feet cutout lets go!!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: BruceDinh on Sun, 10 April 2022, 05:55:54: I’m overwhelmed by the interest shown in the form inputs. I truly appreciate all your feedback and constructive criticism.

The CLS-1 boards were manufactured locally because at that time, I believed that was the best way for me to be 100% involved. While it was a design that I’m absolutely proud of, there were quality issues with some parts that I’m still trying to amend by remanufacturing.

CLS-2 was a much better experience overall, but I’m aware that there are missteps to learn from and improvements to be made.

I’m an independent designer and intend to remain that way, and I fully understand that is no excuse for inadequacy. I have learned so much from the previous runs, and am grateful for that learning opportunity. That’s why I have implemented some key changes for the CLS-3 run:

- Hiring an assistant to support with administrative/operational tasks

- Switching to the in-stock model where I’m in much more control of quality assurance and fulfillment timeline.

I’m analyzing the data gathered from the IC responses and will post an update soon.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard
Post by: BruceDinh on Fri, 10 June 2022, 08:43:15: Prototype V2 is ready. Since it's a prototype, I can't anodize with a custom color yet.
I tried several colors to make sure the base color would work with this design. Nothing is certain, I would probably build on these bases and do a separate anodizing bath for each batch.
Prototype is almost complete, but I also listen to change some more details, depending on taste
- Depth of the inside of the keyboard.
- Refine plate
- Precise shape of rubber feet
- Add custom foam / or drawing

Link album full res : https://imgur.com/a/IlMvhDA

(https://i.imgur.com/J2QhEyy.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/6oHfsIC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aZt1b4j.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/X8qIsi6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JClawmr.jpg)

I continue to listen to adjust the prototype properly.
So I would be very grateful if you would continue to give me more comments on the IC form.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 June 2022, 17:25:45: It’s lovely. Nice work 👍
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 12 June 2022, 00:29:06: Need less gasket and more top mounting : ) ... great side profile

UUuuUuuuUuuu
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: LMarci on Tue, 14 June 2022, 07:17:14: Wow that's one lovely looking board, kinda wish it wasn't gasket though, just too many of those nowadays. Anyway, will definitely consider, glwic!
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: Hentoys on Wed, 15 June 2022, 03:46:21: I dig it! The little bottom weight looks like baseball field.
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: ankit on Wed, 15 June 2022, 06:56:51: At least this one has feet! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: infinitum on Wed, 15 June 2022, 08:05:41: top mount pls
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: hpq2311 on Mon, 20 June 2022, 02:33:07: Is this still a lottery with a limit of 88 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: superjackie on Mon, 20 June 2022, 21:01:01: Does hotswap PCB support stepped caps? raffle Q3?
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: Lee ag on Tue, 21 June 2022, 02:21:14: Beautiful keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] ORI CLS-3//88 Keyboard - Prototype V2 Update
Post by: flying1911 on Mon, 27 June 2022, 05:21:54: Quote from: superjackie on Mon, 20 June 2022, 21:01:01
Does hotswap PCB support stepped caps? raffle Q3?

Hotswap will support both Normal and Stepped Caps Lock.