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Title: [IC] Peek - An FRLWKLTKL | GB LIVE! 7/15 - 8/15)
Post by: Kotahh on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:04:06
This is the interest check for my first project, the Peek TKL

This is a small project that has been in the works for the past 5 months. The peek is an F-Rowless Winkeyless TKL developed by brie (me/Kotahh) that features a top mount design, a simplistic profile, and a brass accent piece. The brass accent is inspired by anime related vinyl stickers commonly found on cars. With simplicity in mind, the board was designed for usability and a clean look that fits into any desk setup.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZAhQ1Jz.jpg)


If you would like to support me and/or keep up with the project, you may join my Discord here:
Discord Link (https://discord.gg/4NrTWRTsKw)

Please fill out my IC form, it will be helpful!
IC Form (https://forms.gle/WcoHGbLQUzZkT2HE6)


Changelog/Revisions since prototype (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oi8hJfM1coYyfydEGMrd5YXC1V5Ba0X3ja25pp2j96w/edit?usp=sharing)


Additional prototype photos:

More
(https://i.imgur.com/ckjSPJF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qvCU807.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/1QwKSjP.jpg)
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Renders courtesy of musicman123#9403:

More
(https://i.imgur.com/Mdwc2QH.jpg)
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Technical Specifications:

PCB Specifications:
Additional information can be found here (https://fjlaboratories.com/project/peek)

Currently only have hotswap as the main PCB at this current time, if you would like to see a solder PCB, please let me know in the IC form!

Group Buy Info:

With ongoing global issues and the volatility of material prices, pricing will be finalized before the GB to ensure the most accurate pricing can be locked.

Why the low unit count?
The group buy will be capped at 80 units to keep production, QC, packaging, and fulfillment lead times reasonable and manageable.

Kit Contents:

Exploded Layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/LHg9oC1.jpg)

Adjusted Front Height: (19.232 mm)
(https://i.imgur.com/KmrZDfH.png)

PCB Layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/F1nOtp2.jpg)

Plate Layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/jCnUwch.jpg)

Old plate layouts:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/IfdSkqu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AZjlofI.jpg)


Currently the PCB & Plate only support Tsangan bottom row and no ISO.
Plate files will be open sourced after the GB.

Soundtests:

Sound tests (https://soundcloud.com/imnotbrie)

Courtesy of Windz#7101

Timeline/To Do List:

Special Thanks:
Title: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 5/10/22
Post by: Kotahh on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:04:33
Prototype comments:

See photos below:

More
(https://i.imgur.com/1NsIgxG.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/LCDIdrp.jpg)


5/10/2022 UPDATE:

6/8/2022 - UPDATE 2:


6/22/2022 - UPDATE 3:

The start of the GB: Friday July 15, 2022 - Monday August 15, 2022
GB will last 4 weeks or until all of the units are sold

Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: chat and team on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:09:44
meh, would have been intrested if there wasn't anime,Canada, or waiting to see how much you can stretch the price.
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: BasedCoper on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:14:15
Looks solid and nice proto. I would like to ask though, why only let us pick one optional plate material in the IC form? Also, forcing hot-swap is a BIG mistake imo considering this isn't an entry-level board. Pease let us pick solder from the start and please allow us to remove the engraving at the top. Otherwise, looks fantastic.

love me some FRL TKLs.

edit: would also like to see a hard carrying case, unless i just missed it in IC, in which case my bad
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: Kotahh on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:21:31
Quote from: chat and team on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:09:44
meh, would have been intrested if there wasn't anime,Canada, or waiting to see how much you can stretch the price.


Appreciate your comment!

Quote from: BasedCoper on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:14:15
Looks solid and nice proto. I would like to ask though, why only let us pick one optional plate material in the IC form? Also, forcing hot-swap is a BIG mistake imo considering this isn't an entry-level board. Pease let us pick solder from the start and please allow us to remove the engraving at the top. Otherwise, looks fantastic.

love me some FRL TKLs.

edit: would also like to see a hard carrying case, unless i just missed it in IC, in which case my bad

PCB is currently hotswap at the moment, I included an option to show support for a solder pcb in the IC form if people want it and it will be considered.
Also with the low quantity of the GB, as solder and hotswap are treated as different variances, it would drastically change the pricing of each PCB.

The reason you can only pick one plate is so I can keep the project more manageable and keep the costs lowered since there will likely be only one extra plate. Allowing people to pick one will give me a better idea of whats most desirable.
Regarding the hard carrying case, I am currently considering a hard carrying case vs normal box + custom foam inserts.

Thanks for your comments.
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: huey on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:25:41
I think a deweebified version would go a long way for those who like the board but can't get a long with the degen nature.

Also I think the relationship between top and bottom bezel is little weird. The design could be better if the bottom was wider or the top was smaller.

GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: Mdark205 on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:32:27
Big fan of the design, and the look of the weight. Count me in for one  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: shima on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:34:15
peak design with peek
glwic & i hope to join gb
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: BasedCoper on Sat, 30 April 2022, 22:00:03
Quote from: Kotahh on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:21:31
Quote from: chat and team on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:09:44
meh, would have been intrested if there wasn't anime,Canada, or waiting to see how much you can stretch the price.


Appreciate your comment!

Quote from: BasedCoper on Sat, 30 April 2022, 21:14:15
Looks solid and nice proto. I would like to ask though, why only let us pick one optional plate material in the IC form? Also, forcing hot-swap is a BIG mistake imo considering this isn't an entry-level board. Pease let us pick solder from the start and please allow us to remove the engraving at the top. Otherwise, looks fantastic.

love me some FRL TKLs.

edit: would also like to see a hard carrying case, unless i just missed it in IC, in which case my bad

PCB is currently hotswap at the moment, I included an option to show support for a solder pcb in the IC form if people want it and it will be considered.
Also with the low quantity of the GB, as solder and hotswap are treated as different variances, it would drastically change the pricing of each PCB.

The reason you can only pick one plate is so I can keep the project more manageable and keep the costs lowered since there will likely be only one extra plate. Allowing people to pick one will give me a better idea of whats most desirable.
Regarding the hard carrying case, I am currently considering a hard carrying case vs normal box + custom foam inserts.

Thanks for your comments.

I  appreciate your reply. I strongly hope you do choose the hard carrying case as it is less wasteful and very useful to take to work, etc. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: ee on Sat, 30 April 2022, 22:38:48
that will be $3000 dollars
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: murpy on Sat, 30 April 2022, 22:43:37
Please consider an extra plate option like PC for the gb. Not having a solder PCB would be a make or break for me unfortunately. Otherwise glwic

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Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: Sicowa on Sat, 30 April 2022, 23:03:27
This looks cool, I think that if people really wanted a non weeb version then they should have bought the crin imo.
I think if your going to only offer one pcb option it should be solder honestly too.
glwic.
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: spedywin on Sat, 30 April 2022, 23:11:03
dont look bad, hopefully price good, thank you and gl
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: gotgoodiez on Sun, 01 May 2022, 19:36:25
I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: BasedCoper on Sun, 01 May 2022, 21:31:14
Quote from: gotgoodiez on Sun, 01 May 2022, 19:36:25
I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

Def second basically everything said here.
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: yangsiyin on Mon, 02 May 2022, 20:40:16
I'm digging it
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: lnguyen_ on Tue, 03 May 2022, 08:22:59
YES YES YES
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: moistbobo on Tue, 03 May 2022, 09:41:14
very niche, but also very interested. I hope the engravings stay on... otherwise it loses some of its power
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: derpter on Wed, 04 May 2022, 16:53:44
Quote from: gotgoodiez on Sun, 01 May 2022, 19:36:25
I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

Second everything said here
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: mr_foggy on Thu, 05 May 2022, 11:56:55
board is perfect for me as is. please don't change a thing.
count me as a customer if so
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: BasedCoper on Thu, 05 May 2022, 16:11:05
Quote from: derpter on Wed, 04 May 2022, 16:53:44
Quote from: gotgoodiez on Sun, 01 May 2022, 19:36:25
I think I black or matching red plate would go better with this board than silver and I personally like soldered pcbs more and would like to see that make the cut. Also I think the weight on the back matches the board naming even if it isn't my personal taste but I don't think the horns on the front add anything so a version without would be nice. Lastly a cool idea if possible is to have the weight stay blank and you can add some peek stickers or something in place to let people personalize the peeking person. GLWIC though!

Second everything said here

u mean third everything?
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: beelzking on Sat, 07 May 2022, 12:44:18
Very cool, me likey
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: zekth on Sat, 07 May 2022, 16:29:33
No weeb weight + soldered PCB and i'm in  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL
Post by: DaaDaa on Sat, 07 May 2022, 17:18:08
good luck
Title: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 5/10/22
Post by: Kotahh on Tue, 10 May 2022, 20:36:08
Just wanted to take a second and thank everyone who filled out the IC form.

Update 1:
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 5/10/22
Post by: Kotahh on Wed, 08 June 2022, 17:16:06
6/8/2022 - Update 2:

•    Pricing is currently looking like $350USD
•    Utilizing a different grit for the case, it feels much smoother and I am liking it a lot more than the previous prototype
•    The slight increase of the height has resolved the gap with PBT keycaps
•    Happier with how the new engraving looks
•    I have noticed the new prototype top has a brighter red ano compared to the previous revision. Considering shipping it back to the manu to have it re-ano'd
•    Currently reaching out to a few content creators for a review stream
•    Speaking with the PCB designer/manu, it is priced based on unique PCBs so it would not be cheap to manu a small numbers of solder PCBs at this current moment. There are a few other reasons but this is the biggest reason. As the original intent was to run it with a hotswap PCB, it will continue to be run as so.

See for any applicable photos:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/gMZWVzx.jpg)
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Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: Flybeck on Wed, 08 June 2022, 21:26:15
Great improvements.
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: LegendsWorks on Thu, 09 June 2022, 03:23:24
Way to degen, design wise its fine may consider, GLWIC :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: Ansenki on Thu, 09 June 2022, 11:30:12
I like FRLWKLTKL !
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: bitbot on Thu, 09 June 2022, 15:04:31
looks alright :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: GuavaJoe on Fri, 10 June 2022, 01:56:44
Count me in
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 12 June 2022, 00:32:44
Crin with weight

Am I a Cuck and  a Ruck
Title: Re: [IC] Peek TKL - An FRLWKLTKL | Last updated 6/8/2022 with Pricing
Post by: Kotahh on Tue, 21 June 2022, 23:51:55
6/22/2022 Small update 3:

The start of the GB: Friday July 15, 2022 - Monday August 15, 2022
GB will last 4 weeks or until all of the units are sold

•    The plate was updated to include additional layouts
•    Plate/case foam will be included as an optional add-on
•    FR4 will now also be included as an optional add-on plate so optional plates would be: alu, FR4, and PC
•    A review stream has been delayed until further notice
Title: Re: [IC] Peek - An FRLWKLTKL | GB LIVE! 7/15 - 8/15)
Post by: Kotahh on Tue, 19 July 2022, 12:00:09
GB is live as of 7/15! GB post has been awaiting approval.


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