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Title: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA - GB LIVE 1-13 to 2-3
Post by: ARSLOCK on Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:23:13
(https://i.imgur.com/NNPD8H7.jpeg)

Fossil Full Size - Made in USA

Carolina Mech (https://www.carolinamech.com) + Van Dusen (https://www.vdmfg.com/)

Album (https://imgur.com/gallery/rPJpbrV)

Please fill out IC Form (https://forms.gle/rcTgodVGcErVvSVj6)

Join our Discord (https://discord.gg/zzyj64g)


After the success of Palmetto 60 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112686.0), our next project is a custom full sized keyboard. Designed and manufactured by Van Dusen.


(https://i.imgur.com/H4oAmon.jpeg)
Carnivore Weight, blued, designed by u/onecreativemind

(https://i.imgur.com/0ptTnNc.jpeg)
7 degrees, 17.5mm front height

(https://i.imgur.com/Q51ClwL.jpeg)
Herbivore Weight, blued

(https://i.imgur.com/7t7h3NT.jpeg)
bronze and titanium blue cerakote

(https://i.imgur.com/gAMZoFq.jpeg)
blank weight, blued

(https://i.imgur.com/QXoNbWA.jpeg)
wk, f13, raw beadblast


specifications:
- hiney pcb, via, f12 and f13 compatible
- grommet mount
- usb-c daughterboard
- 7 degrees
- 17.5mm front height
- 2.44 kg / 5.6 lb
- price: $600+ (tbd)
- plates: aluminum, fr4. maybe: carbon fiber, brass, pom, poly?



(https://i.imgur.com/YuPUJvB.jpeg)
exploded view

(https://i.imgur.com/EjqgU3S.png)
side view

(https://i.imgur.com/AXahlHw.png)
grommet rubber mount

(https://i.imgur.com/DheprnT.png)
plate

(https://i.imgur.com/9uMV1nO.png)
top options (2 will be produced)

to do:
- sound test
- build streams
- anodizing is in process
- working on carrying case for shipping
- finalize colors
- proto plates in pom, cf, poly
- sale format

We're producing as much as possible in USA. We probably will outsource plates for this board because it was not cost effective on Palmetto to CNC them ourselves.

We will have several dozen early access units of this board available while we determine the sale method for a larger quantity. Join our discord for more info!

Album (https://imgur.com/gallery/rPJpbrV)

Please fill out IC Form (https://forms.gle/rcTgodVGcErVvSVj6)

Join our Discord (https://discord.gg/zzyj64g)

Thanks for looking!

Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: futurecrime on Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:44:55
What a beaut!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Hedgey on Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:49:43
Saw this board (and it's variants) at the SC meetup last month as well as where they're manufactured.  Amazing quality, and if you're into full size this is the board to get!!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Bub on Fri, 10 June 2022, 09:51:01
awesome board. how does the mount/sound feel? looking forward to seeing content creators impressions, but i am most likely in
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:14:21
layout number 6 is insane lmao i'm with it

this is a cool project
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Theman2k on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:16:39
Amazing looking board.
Sent all my questions and thoughts through the IC form.
Top options 1 and 2 for the win!
I am 100% in on this board.

I waited for this so much, Hope it won't be under a raffle so I won't lose the chance to get one.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Yves W on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:20:51
Looks very nice!
Would be even sicker if we could get a south-paw layout for the numpad, or if we could change the location of the numpad around like the TENET does with it's nav cluster.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:28:56
Looks very nice!
Would be even sicker if we could get a south-paw layout for the numpad, or if we could change the location of the numpad around like the TENET does with it's nav cluster.

would be a whole different board and PCB design so i think it's unlikely, but i would consider shelling out for a southpaw version
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: panka on Fri, 10 June 2022, 10:57:33
hot asf, especially the f13 wkl version w/o media keys
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: white_rabbit on Fri, 10 June 2022, 11:55:19
That weight design is awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: gotgoodiez on Fri, 10 June 2022, 12:35:03
Still can't decide on option 6 or 8 but love this board and can't wait to have one.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: packman86 on Fri, 10 June 2022, 12:38:24
Absolute unit! GLWIC!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 10 June 2022, 12:47:19
I’m ready. Put my preferences but I’m pretty flexible. I’d go for a puddsy southpaw fossil down the way too
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Rob27shred on Fri, 10 June 2022, 14:01:01
IC form filled, really digging this board design! A true alum full sized custom is something that I have yet to get in my collection & this one is looking pretty fire. The only thing that could make this better IMO would be a southpaw variant. Although I get not wanting to do that as that would basically require running two seperate designs at once. Anyways awesome work guys & GL moving forward with this!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Cylent on Fri, 10 June 2022, 14:21:43
I think you should pick 1 layout and then make the 2nd version a southpaw version of the 1st layout. I'm not a southpaw user but there are so few options out there for southpaws and full size boards that I'm sure it will be appreciated.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: JQ27 on Fri, 10 June 2022, 15:07:06
This is fantastic.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: dudewth on Fri, 10 June 2022, 16:08:10
interested
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Extra Fox on Fri, 10 June 2022, 21:06:18
I'm gonna have to start hording the old danegeld again.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: superjackie on Fri, 10 June 2022, 21:37:08
looks nice but just way too big. good for collectors, def not daily use. maybe consider compact full like sar or evil troy 92?
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Extra Fox on Fri, 10 June 2022, 21:49:15
You're not actually serious are you?
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sat, 11 June 2022, 01:53:44
Layout 6 ftw. Gromet feels good on my erghost so this probably will too. Could you consider making the weight internal as well?
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Fraaaan on Sat, 11 June 2022, 05:10:25
looks nice but just way too big. good for collectors, def not daily use. maybe consider compact full like sar or evil troy 92?

Something something preference. Just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's bad.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Theman2k on Sat, 11 June 2022, 06:27:42
looks nice but just way too big. good for collectors, def not daily use. maybe consider compact full like sar or evil troy 92?

That's OK, I personally like this a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: soundstage on Sat, 11 June 2022, 08:55:47
Layout 2 for the win! Gives the highest number of keys possible for a full sized layout. How about manufacturing in China so that the price comes down which will enable a wider community reach for this board?
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: macclack on Sat, 11 June 2022, 14:48:13
F20 here we come baby
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 12 June 2022, 00:20:57
Layout 2 for the win! Gives the highest number of keys possible for a full sized layout. How about manufacturing in China so that the price comes down which will enable a wider community reach for this board?


Arslock likes to manufacture in US
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: The0rigina1 on Sun, 12 June 2022, 12:21:32
Layout 6 ftw. Gromet feels good on my erghost so this probably will too. Could you consider making the weight internal as well?

Actually, I take it back. Layout 2/5 should both be offered. Also, make the weight internal?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Theman2k on Sun, 12 June 2022, 15:24:51
Layout 6 ftw. Gromet feels good on my erghost so this probably will too. Could you consider making the weight internal as well?

Actually, I take it back. Layout 2/5 should both be offered. Also, make the weight internal?  ;D

Hell yeah! layout 2 FTW!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: LegendsWorks on Sun, 12 June 2022, 22:55:41
Very najs :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: japancakes on Mon, 13 June 2022, 00:20:27
2 and 6 go hard.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Mon, 13 June 2022, 07:53:40
Not sure I'll have the funds when this goes live but I'm going to promote the hell out of it because we need more full size customs in the space. Plus the design is sick. Arslock good people. Highly recommend.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: totalemon on Mon, 13 June 2022, 19:37:58
suuuper expensive but the space is sorely lacking boutique fullsize options so I'm a fan. the t-rex weight is gorgeous
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Handke on Tue, 14 June 2022, 04:08:26
No ISO? Please add it. This is the only full size keyboard that I want.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: LMarci on Tue, 14 June 2022, 07:14:14
I like this quite a lot. Always appreciate a unique and interesting design, glwic!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Tue, 14 June 2022, 09:52:58
I love it! Maybe there could be a maroon color?
(https://i.imgur.com/xKuUvig.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Que7797 on Wed, 15 June 2022, 14:13:53
Very nice, grommet mount looks like a great idea.

Good stuff, Arslock!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: MrEsosmao on Wed, 15 June 2022, 17:39:43
I've never been a fan of full size keebs, but I may have to reconsider. Good work!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 15 June 2022, 21:13:07
Thing looks like an absolute weapon.

Layout 6 is the play.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: 2Moons on Thu, 16 June 2022, 00:27:40
Totally interested. If the price is right, might cop.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Fri, 17 June 2022, 08:05:42
No ISO? Please add it. This is the only full size keyboard that I want.

We'll add ISO, that was an oversight. The plate already has it but the PCB doesn't yet.
I think you should pick 1 layout and then make the 2nd version a southpaw version of the 1st layout. I'm not a southpaw user but there are so few options out there for southpaws and full size boards that I'm sure it will be appreciated.

Southpaw might come eventually, please if you're interested in that make a note in the IC form.

Layout 2 for the win! Gives the highest number of keys possible for a full sized layout. How about manufacturing in China so that the price comes down which will enable a wider community reach for this board?

We won't be making cases in China. The whole point of my company is to produce boards in the USA.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Wed, 29 June 2022, 12:40:45
Quick update:

I have received FR4, Polycarb, ABS, and POM plates for testing.

I have a revised proto pcb from hiney that supports F12/F13.

We have some units in ano that we are hoping to get back in the next week or so and then we can get some streams lined up and get the GB going.

Also I have a sample carrying case/bag ordered to review, waiting on shipping now.

In the meantime be sure to join our discord (https://discord.gg/zzyj64g)
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: treeleaf64 on Thu, 30 June 2022, 22:28:32
Filco but better  am a fan My Petting Dinosaur Arslock
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: LumiP on Fri, 01 July 2022, 04:16:34
We need more full sized boards in this hobby. I love the weight. Those layout possibilities are bussin, but I do think southpaw version of the #1 layout as second design would be inclusive in a good direction for this board.

GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Friendship on Fri, 01 July 2022, 09:53:09
the weights, the colors, the details, so much awesome stuff going on here. I'm not a full size user but gosh this is tempting. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Tue, 05 July 2022, 19:58:07
Very quick update -

I got the carrying case in, it's literally a large TX bag/case (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/637291651680960533/993998758125781022/20220705_175506.jpg)

I'm hoping to include it with the board. Since we are made in USA, we have make our own packing foam, and that ended up being fairly expensive on the Palmetto. So shipping in a case will hopefully work well.

Anodizing samples got pushed back a week, I guess because of the July 4 holiday. Should be here in the next few weeks.

We also had another cerakote sample come in, this one was done by our certified cerakote vendor. The color is called black cherry.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752586888354725958/992902522853412874/20220702_171956.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 05 July 2022, 20:19:06
Very quick update -

I got the carrying case in, it's literally a large TX bag/case
Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/637291651680960533/993998758125781022/20220705_175506.jpg)


I'm hoping to include it with the board. Since we are made in USA, we have make our own packing foam, and that ended up being fairly expensive on the Palmetto. So shipping in a case will hopefully work well.

Anodizing samples got pushed back a week, I guess because of the July 4 holiday. Should be here in the next few weeks.

We also had another cerakote sample come in, this one was done by our certified cerakote vendor. The color is called black cherry.

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752586888354725958/992902522853412874/20220702_171956.jpg)


oo that color is nice

do you think you can do guncandy finishes on this? might be cool to have that insane yellow they do
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 06 July 2022, 03:25:09
At last a full size.  Following.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Wed, 06 July 2022, 10:05:42


oo that color is nice

do you think you can do guncandy finishes on this? might be cool to have that insane yellow they do

most likely will offer a few colors of cerakote based off of the IC form feedback, doing 1 off colors really makes a mess logistically, so gonna avoid that

After playing around with the stock bag configuration, not 100% happy with the fit. We're going to get a custom foam cutout made/custom zipper, so just ordered the sample for that and will hopefully have it in a few weeks.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 July 2022, 15:48:37


oo that color is nice

do you think you can do guncandy finishes on this? might be cool to have that insane yellow they do

most likely will offer a few colors of cerakote based off of the IC form feedback, doing 1 off colors really makes a mess logistically, so gonna avoid that

After playing around with the stock bag configuration, not 100% happy with the fit. We're going to get a custom foam cutout made/custom zipper, so just ordered the sample for that and will hopefully have it in a few weeks.

super valid i just want a yellow keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Wed, 27 July 2022, 13:05:18
Some new pics!

(https://i.imgur.com/MT2v3nv.jpeg)

Blue ano, blued herbivore weight

(https://i.imgur.com/VV4fRqQ.jpeg)

Black cherry cerakote, raw beadblasted herbivore weight

(https://i.imgur.com/EUu9ag5.jpeg)

Titanium Blue Cerakote and blank weight

https://imgur.com/gallery/RNHzJrB

We got anodizing back but am not entirely happy with it. We're going to go with cerakote for the initial boards.

Also, the second bag prototype came back, and we're happy with it and hope to offer it with the GB in the future due to the high moq and storage required, we won't be able to have the case for the initial units.

Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Fri, 19 August 2022, 13:59:09
Couple more pics

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970719123749371904/1009795734649978970/IMG_1291_-_Copy.JPG)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970719123749371904/1009795765448749106/IMG_1345_-_Copy.JPG)

Black Cerakote

(https://i.imgur.com/FCAuMW7.jpeg)

Carnivore Weight, Hunter Green Cerakote

Some proto photos by Hedgy, he's currently working on some sound tests so hope to have those up in the new few days.

https://imgur.com/a/uZyzFN9


Just working out a few more things on the production side!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Theman2k on Fri, 19 August 2022, 17:51:08
Great updates ARSLOCK!
Amazing job IMO with this IC, waiting for those sound tests.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Thu, 22 September 2022, 07:56:07
ABS Plate, Gateron Cap Browns, CRP

FR4 Plate, Gateron Milky Yellows KS3, CRP

Some sound tests by u/Hedgey. Sorry for the delay on these!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: The0rigina1 on Thu, 22 September 2022, 14:06:00
ABS Plate, Gateron Cap Browns, CRP

FR4 Plate, Gateron Milky Yellows KS3, CRP

Some sound tests by u/Hedgey. Sorry for the delay on these!
Sounds sublime, very cool
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Handke on Thu, 06 October 2022, 06:41:07
This is probably the only 100% full size wkl keyboard available, am I right?

Probably there's the dyno gb, but that thing is so big that it's painful to watch at.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 06 October 2022, 09:11:50
This is probably the only 100% full size wkl keyboard available, am I right?

Probably there's the dyno gb, but that thing is so big that it's painful to watch at.

there are a bunch of others, this is the only GB planned for one in the near future that i know of
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: MMJ1999 on Thu, 06 October 2022, 22:00:35
Fantastic :D
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Handke on Fri, 07 October 2022, 03:23:09
This is probably the only 100% full size wkl keyboard available, am I right?

Probably there's the dyno gb, but that thing is so big that it's painful to watch at.

there are a bunch of others, this is the only GB planned for one in the near future that i know of

Can you share what are the others? thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: CoffeeTime on Mon, 10 October 2022, 00:07:20
Instant buy in on that bronze cerakote.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: MMJ1999 on Mon, 10 October 2022, 02:45:57
I’m ready.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Fri, 14 October 2022, 16:35:01
We're really going with the F13 WKL? Alright then :/
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: gotgoodiez on Mon, 17 October 2022, 14:29:56
We're really going with the F13 WKL? Alright then :/

Nothing is confirmed yet, Arslock/VD is still working on deciding layouts and color choices as far as we know.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Wed, 16 November 2022, 08:19:28
Couple updates! We're going to launch the group buy in January on Friday the 13th. Alexotos is going to do a build stream the same day.

We're really going with the F13 WKL? Alright then :/

For tops, we'll pick the top two vote getters, definitely looking like there will be a winkey option!

We haven't had a lot of success with anodizing, so we're going to stick with cerakote only for this GB.

Hot swap pcb will be an option!

More info coming soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: Theman2k on Sat, 19 November 2022, 05:15:56
Hell yeah!
Hot swap version confirmed, great news.
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Tue, 03 January 2023, 20:22:42
Working on finalizing details for the group buy this week. The group buy will start on Friday January 13 2023 and run until the end of the month.

Alexotos will be streaming a fossil build on January 13 @ 7pm EST!

Here's a few pics of the black cerakote/herbivore weight:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970719123749371904/1009795734649978970/IMG_1291_-_Copy.JPG)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970719123749371904/1009795765448749106/IMG_1345_-_Copy.JPG)
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA
Post by: ARSLOCK on Thu, 12 January 2023, 22:47:55
One final update on the IC, another photo album

https://imgur.com/gallery/L8LFCr4

Group buy will be live on January 13 https://carolinamech.com/

Thanks everyone for your feedback and help with this project throughout our IC period!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA - GB LIVE 1-13 to 2-3
Post by: clay on Fri, 03 November 2023, 01:26:46
Will there be future releases of this, or perhaps extras? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Fossil Full Size - Made in USA - GB LIVE 1-13 to 2-3
Post by: Fraaaan on Sat, 04 November 2023, 11:24:50
Will there be future releases of this, or perhaps extras? Thanks!

Check the GB thread for updates. This keyboard isn't in interest check anymore so this thread won't get much traction from the runner/vendors.