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Title: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Wed, 27 July 2022, 10:15:00
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PBTfans™ Pyga

Greetings, enthusiasts.
Welcome to the interest check forum of our latest product, the “ PBTfans™ Pyga ” by Aiglatson Studio. The intention of this post is to gauge interest and ask for the community’s feedback to estimate demand.

• INSPIRATION
The theme of Pbtfans Pyga was inspired by the distinctive red colour of Pyrope Garnet, a dark red mysterious gemstone. The word “pyrope” comes from the Greek word “puropus”, which translates to “fiery-eyed”, referring to its vibrance colour and high refractive index. People tend to believe that Pyrope Garnet possesses the power to regain lost passion. It is the perfect gemstone to help you recover from a lethargic state by providing positive energy to enhance daily fulfilment and switch pessimistic thinking to optimistic thinking.
   
The highlight of this set gravitates toward the fact that each key comes with an inner opaque layer and a semi-transparent outer layer that creates shades of light and dark red when combined. Just like how a Pyrope Garnet reflects light.

• SPECIFICATIONS
Material: ABS Material
Profile: Cherry Profile
Manufacturing Method: Double shot injection moulding
 Manufacturer: KBDfans
Packaging: ABS keycaps tray with designed tray cover
Compatibility: Cherry MX and MX clones switches
Designer: Aiglatson Studio
**THIS SET WILL BE SOLD AS AN IN-STOCK PRODUCT

• COLOUR COMPARISON

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• KITS

Base Kit

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Numpad Kit

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Greek Sublegend Kit (Greek Sublegend will be UV printed)

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International Kit

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• RENDERS

Geonworks F1-8X

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Geonworks W1-AT

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Rama Works M10-B

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• SAMPLES

ROUND 1

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ROUND 3 [FINAL]

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• DISCLAIMERS

1. The keyboards are for visual illustration purposes and are not a part of this set.
2. These keycaps are semi-transparent; therefore, renders could illustrate inaccurate colour, surface texture, and degree of transparency.
3. The inner layer for the actual set would potentially have visible holes, please take photos of Pbtfans Neon below as the reference. These holes are not defects but manufacturing constraints from the double shot injection moulding process.

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• ARTISAN KEYCAP

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• VENDORS
Global: KBDfans
Korea: Geonworks
South America: Latamkeys
Philippines: Jaekeyed
Europe: Candykeys
United Kingdom: Prototypist
Australia & New Zealand: Allcaps
Vietnam: Uniqmeck
Canada: Minokeys
Thailand: Aiglatson Studio


TO BE DETERMINED

Please help us fill in the IC form if you are interested. Much appreciated
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/gRJDU3y5yAWUU8uV7)

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Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 27 July 2022, 10:25:43
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: KeyBros_ on Wed, 27 July 2022, 10:42:17
MY ****ING GOD MATE, THAT'S INSTA BUY
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: dededecline on Wed, 27 July 2022, 10:50:26
Why does a set with Greek inspiration have hiragana sublegends? Just because?
Not sure what the point of having three R2 1u novelties is when there's no 40s support in the set. Honestly not sure what the point of having three of the novelties in any row is.
I'm assuming the "2.5U" spacebar is actually 2.25u, if not it should be.
If you're going to add 2x 3u bars you may as well add a 1u bar as well for 3/1/3 split since, once again, you have no 40s support.
You're missing R1 1u Pg Dn and R1 1u End in your numpad kit
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: whirlwind on Wed, 27 July 2022, 10:51:32
> inspired by a Greek word
> Hiragana sublegends
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Wed, 27 July 2022, 11:54:44
why japanese subs instead of greek sublegends? it just seems forced ngl. A greek inspired set that doesnt offer greek subs but instead chooses japanese? just why?
There are no novs so you could idk just change the "Inspiration" to something japanese? or at least add greek sublegends?


I can already see Chat and teams toxic reply, I dont know what he will write but I am almost sure that I can agree with him.
PS will edit if I do or dont when he posts
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: zhol on Wed, 27 July 2022, 12:16:41
replacing hiragana sub alpha kit for some greek sublegends add-on kit would be sick.
keys with *.** ct legends could probably be moved out to their own novelties kit
40's support would be nice, many other pbtfans sets seem like they more-or-less use a base suggested kit provided by manufacturer
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: chat and team on Wed, 27 July 2022, 12:48:24
why japanese subs instead of greek sublegends? it just seems forced ngl. A greek inspired set that doesnt offer greek subs but instead chooses japanese? just why?
There are no novs so you could idk just change the "Inspiration" to something japanese? or at least add greek sublegends?


I can already see Chat and teams toxic reply, I dont know what he will write but I am almost sure that I can agree with him.
PS will edit if I do or dont when he posts
Toxic? Probably
Geekhack for the past year has been endless praise for even the worst projects.
Kbdfans runs everything with hiragana they see the money it generates.
1. Chinese have dropped hate for the Japanese and finally moved on (hopefully)
2. who even is the set creator
3. what do you even want me to say
4. This ic is 100% pointless. When you see kbdfans its probably going to be created as presented on the ic rendering an ic useless.
5. Theres not much to say yall already covered majority of the points I would make
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Leszy on Wed, 27 July 2022, 13:00:31
Renders are stunning, wonder how prototype will look
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: dededecline on Wed, 27 July 2022, 13:38:32
1. Chinese have dropped hate for the Japanese and finally moved on (hopefully)
I don’t have words to express how moronic this statement is
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 27 July 2022, 14:34:38
Why not render them with the expected holes from injection molding? 
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: superjackie on Wed, 27 July 2022, 15:28:13
cool color!

Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: DirtyGingy on Wed, 27 July 2022, 16:38:44
I know the hirgagana sublegends are a default, but I can't be the only one thinking that some different subs would fit this so well. Cyrillic comes to mind, but others might fit well
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: NihonCK on Wed, 27 July 2022, 17:06:54
Why not render them with the expected holes from injection molding?
To create the transparent effect, that is currently not possible. (maybe in the future they can?)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: NihonCK on Wed, 27 July 2022, 17:10:44
They would probably have to invest in another mold to provide something thats not Hiragana sublegends

Maybe drop the Hiragana and add 40's might be a good idea
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Wed, 27 July 2022, 20:08:01
Why does a set with Greek inspiration have hiragana sublegends? Just because?
Not sure what the point of having three R2 1u novelties is when there's no 40s support in the set. Honestly not sure what the point of having three of the novelties in any row is.
I'm assuming the "2.5U" spacebar is actually 2.25u, if not it should be.
If you're going to add 2x 3u bars you may as well add a 1u bar as well for 3/1/3 split since, once again, you have no 40s support.
You're missing R1 1u Pg Dn and R1 1u End in your numpad kit

I know the hirgagana sublegends are a default, but I can't be the only one thinking that some different subs would fit this so well. Cyrillic comes to mind, but others might fit well

why japanese subs instead of greek sublegends? it just seems forced ngl. A greek inspired set that doesnt offer greek subs but instead chooses japanese? just why?
There are no novs so you could idk just change the "Inspiration" to something japanese? or at least add greek sublegends?


I can already see Chat and teams toxic reply, I dont know what he will write but I am almost sure that I can agree with him.
PS will edit if I do or dont when he posts

why japanese subs instead of greek sublegends? it just seems forced ngl. A greek inspired set that doesnt offer greek subs but instead chooses japanese? just why?
There are no novs so you could idk just change the "Inspiration" to something japanese? or at least add greek sublegends?


I can already see Chat and teams toxic reply, I dont know what he will write but I am almost sure that I can agree with him.
PS will edit if I do or dont when he posts
Toxic? Probably
Geekhack for the past year has been endless praise for even the worst projects.
Kbdfans runs everything with hiragana they see the money it generates.
1. Chinese have dropped hate for the Japanese and finally moved on (hopefully)
2. who even is the set creator
3. what do you even want me to say
4. This ic is 100% pointless. When you see kbdfans its probably going to be created as presented on the ic rendering an ic useless.
5. Theres not much to say yall already covered majority of the points I would make


They would probably have to invest in another mold to provide something thats not Hiragana sublegends

Maybe drop the Hiragana and add 40's might be a good idea

> inspired by a Greek word
> Hiragana sublegends

replacing hiragana sub alpha kit for some greek sublegends add-on kit would be sick.
keys with *.** ct legends could probably be moved out to their own novelties kit
40's support would be nice, many other pbtfans sets seem like they more-or-less use a base suggested kit provided by manufacturer

They would probably have to invest in another mold to provide something thats not Hiragana sublegends

Maybe drop the Hiragana and add 40's might be a good idea

Hi guys, thank you for all your useful comments. Having greek sublegends just have so much more sense. Therefore, I have decided to drop the hiragana alpha kit. I've also contacted Kbdfans regarding the greek sublegend, and they inform me that it could be done, although through uv printing. I will update as soon as I have anything solid. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: NihonCK on Wed, 27 July 2022, 20:10:11
Why does a set with Greek inspiration have hiragana sublegends? Just because?
Not sure what the point of having three R2 1u novelties is when there's no 40s support in the set. Honestly not sure what the point of having three of the novelties in any row is.
I'm assuming the "2.5U" spacebar is actually 2.25u, if not it should be.
If you're going to add 2x 3u bars you may as well add a 1u bar as well for 3/1/3 split since, once again, you have no 40s support.
You're missing R1 1u Pg Dn and R1 1u End in your numpad kit

I know the hirgagana sublegends are a default, but I can't be the only one thinking that some different subs would fit this so well. Cyrillic comes to mind, but others might fit well

why japanese subs instead of greek sublegends? it just seems forced ngl. A greek inspired set that doesnt offer greek subs but instead chooses japanese? just why?
There are no novs so you could idk just change the "Inspiration" to something japanese? or at least add greek sublegends?


I can already see Chat and teams toxic reply, I dont know what he will write but I am almost sure that I can agree with him.
PS will edit if I do or dont when he posts

why japanese subs instead of greek sublegends? it just seems forced ngl. A greek inspired set that doesnt offer greek subs but instead chooses japanese? just why?
There are no novs so you could idk just change the "Inspiration" to something japanese? or at least add greek sublegends?


I can already see Chat and teams toxic reply, I dont know what he will write but I am almost sure that I can agree with him.
PS will edit if I do or dont when he posts
Toxic? Probably
Geekhack for the past year has been endless praise for even the worst projects.
Kbdfans runs everything with hiragana they see the money it generates.
1. Chinese have dropped hate for the Japanese and finally moved on (hopefully)
2. who even is the set creator
3. what do you even want me to say
4. This ic is 100% pointless. When you see kbdfans its probably going to be created as presented on the ic rendering an ic useless.
5. Theres not much to say yall already covered majority of the points I would make


They would probably have to invest in another mold to provide something thats not Hiragana sublegends

Maybe drop the Hiragana and add 40's might be a good idea

> inspired by a Greek word
> Hiragana sublegends

replacing hiragana sub alpha kit for some greek sublegends add-on kit would be sick.
keys with *.** ct legends could probably be moved out to their own novelties kit
40's support would be nice, many other pbtfans sets seem like they more-or-less use a base suggested kit provided by manufacturer

They would probably have to invest in another mold to provide something thats not Hiragana sublegends

Maybe drop the Hiragana and add 40's might be a good idea

Hi guys, thank you for all your useful comments. Having greek sublegends just have so much more sense. Therefore, I have decided to drop the hiragana alpha kit. I've also contacted Kbdfans regarding the greek sublegend, and they inform me that it could be done, although through uv printing. I will update as soon as I have anything solid. Thank you.

if I recall correctly, Neon is also UV and has a coating to protect the legends
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Wed, 27 July 2022, 20:18:14
Regarding to the product page, Pbtfans neon is double shotted for latin base and triple shotted for hiragana sub legend.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: JazSquatch on Wed, 27 July 2022, 20:46:54
this is such a clean set, even if it were to have those holes
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: DirtyGingy on Thu, 28 July 2022, 02:45:26
Will it be base an numbpad only? Because an international kit, 40s, and spacebars are pretty damn popular and useful.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Gerevala on Thu, 28 July 2022, 05:48:14
Greek but Japan.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: antifocus on Thu, 28 July 2022, 06:20:05
Love the color scheme and how you incorporate the translucent abs into your design, very interested, however I hope there's some change can be done with the 1.00ct legends as it doesn't differ much from your normal modifiers, maybe some gem related design or just remove all together
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Thu, 28 July 2022, 07:12:39
Why not render them with the expected holes from injection molding?

I have contacted Kbdfans regarding this matter, cad model with holes will be provided soon and I will update the renders as soon as I got them. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: phinix on Thu, 28 July 2022, 07:53:47
Such an amazing colors, fantastic. I wish it was possible to make them without those holes.
I'll wait then till manufacturing will let do that, even if it would need to be 30 years:)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: vincesatsong on Thu, 28 July 2022, 08:23:14
The color looks nice!  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Cylent on Thu, 28 July 2022, 08:23:27
Good choice on removing the japanese subs. I've created a greek sublegend file on the KRK discord server legend repository that is open source. Your main options are: Capitalized partial (see GMK evil eye for example, though GMK molds have minor issues) or slightly different variations of lowercase full sublegends (see ePBT Kavala, ePBT Hellas for a couple of variations). Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or would like assistance choosing between the options on Greek sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: PuNkShoO on Thu, 28 July 2022, 12:52:45
A stunning red set, indeed. I am curious how the secondary layers will show through, though. PBTFans Neon is a nice set but when you get into triple shot territory that tertiary layer does begin to look a little messy. Excited for this nonetheless. The red is beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 28 July 2022, 13:52:01
this is so cool, i love how neon turned out. please consider 40s!! lots of other pbtfans sets have them
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Ram08 on Thu, 28 July 2022, 16:38:44
Man I'd love the same colourway but without holes (and maybe white modifiers with black legends)! Looks dope.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: DeMechanica on Fri, 29 July 2022, 08:42:43
I’d like this in PBT, PBTFans’ PBT is super super nice quality, I haven’t seen better quality keycaps, and this is a lovely colour way.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 29 July 2022, 08:51:27
How about a blanks kit? To mimic the look of the HHKB Pro HG (https://hhkb.io/models/HHKB_Professional_HG/)?

Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Friendship on Fri, 29 July 2022, 09:08:05
very neat set, will definitely keep my eye on this, also i kinda like the injection molding detail hole things.

one thing to note: your 2.25U spacebar is labeled 2.5U on the base kit render

Edit: Dede already made mention of it, I'm a fool who didn't search first
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: WaynaPawiasek on Fri, 29 July 2022, 09:37:57
i'd like to see an international kit; othert than that looks great. Greek sublegend is lit
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: a1liz on Fri, 29 July 2022, 10:51:13
Love the color! Hope to see the 40's kits!
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Fri, 29 July 2022, 19:41:19
Such an amazing colors, fantastic. I wish it was possible to make them without those holes.
I'll wait then till manufacturing will let do that, even if it would need to be 30 years:)

this is such a clean set, even if it were to have those holes

Man I'd love the same colourway but without holes (and maybe white modifiers with black legends)! Looks dope.

Man I'd love the same colourway but without holes (and maybe white modifiers with black legends)! Looks dope.

Thank you for your compliments, but the holes are inevitable. Holes are the by product from how the mould is built. Every Pbtfans set will have those holes, sometimes you just can't see them because they were hidden by the opaque outer layer.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Mon, 01 August 2022, 09:18:54
Good choice on removing the japanese subs. I've created a greek sublegend file on the KRK discord server legend repository that is open source. Your main options are: Capitalized partial (see GMK evil eye for example, though GMK molds have minor issues) or slightly different variations of lowercase full sublegends (see ePBT Kavala, ePBT Hellas for a couple of variations). Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or would like assistance choosing between the options on Greek sublegends.

Thank you so much Cylent. I can't say how grateful I am, you legend. 
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Tue, 02 August 2022, 03:25:07
Regarding your feedbacks, the Greek Sublegend Kit is finally added guys. I hope you liked it. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: Leszy on Tue, 02 August 2022, 05:05:50
Great to see greek sublegends!
I understand that japanese ones appeal strongly to specific part of the community, but I am very glad that people seem to be open to experience more of a niche alphabets. Letters themself are art and expressions of broader culture.
Alphabets are just very, very cool.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 02 August 2022, 09:11:03
Good choice on removing the japanese subs. I've created a greek sublegend file on the KRK discord server legend repository that is open source. Your main options are: Capitalized partial (see GMK evil eye for example, though GMK molds have minor issues) or slightly different variations of lowercase full sublegends (see ePBT Kavala, ePBT Hellas for a couple of variations). Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or would like assistance choosing between the options on Greek sublegends.

Thank you so much Cylent. I can't say how grateful I am, you legend.

:thumb: I'm always happy to help designers when it comes to greek sublegends. While I prefer full lowercase greek subs, these partial capitalized are a solid option, look very nice, and will be a bit cheaper with UV printing than full lowercase. I think it would be cool to ask in the IC if people want the subs in base or in a child kit, as the partial capitalized subs look really good with the red base color.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: phinix on Wed, 03 August 2022, 03:05:17
How about a blanks kit? To mimic the look of the HHKB Pro HG (https://hhkb.io/models/HHKB_Professional_HG/)?

Oooh, that would be nice!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga
Post by: nakaru on Thu, 04 August 2022, 18:44:32
Good choice on removing the japanese subs. I've created a greek sublegend file on the KRK discord server legend repository that is open source. Your main options are: Capitalized partial (see GMK evil eye for example, though GMK molds have minor issues) or slightly different variations of lowercase full sublegends (see ePBT Kavala, ePBT Hellas for a couple of variations). Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or would like assistance choosing between the options on Greek sublegends.

Thank you so much Cylent. I can't say how grateful I am, you legend.

:thumb: I'm always happy to help designers when it comes to greek sublegends. While I prefer full lowercase greek subs, these partial capitalized are a solid option, look very nice, and will be a bit cheaper with UV printing than full lowercase. I think it would be cool to ask in the IC if people want the subs in base or in a child kit, as the partial capitalized subs look really good with the red base color.

I agree with the sub legends, and I really really hope since its just a few uppercase it will be included in the base since greek subs is one of the biggest reasons why I want this set in the first place. Would also like to see an all-in-one bundle but that may just be me  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 04 August 2022, 18:48:31
somehow missed this, would love to see a physical sample before shipping. the renders look great though, may pick up an extra if they come out OK
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Thu, 04 August 2022, 20:23:22
those greek subs look 100% man. Glad you changed from the ****ty hirigana
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 05 August 2022, 13:58:29
The renders look amazing, but I agree that samples would need to be seen before hand.  Love the colour and please get some UK ISO added into that it.  This would be a no brainer purchase for me.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: CHAOSERA on Sat, 06 August 2022, 21:44:16
This style mix is a little weird.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: MrBingo on Tue, 09 August 2022, 16:43:59
the renders look sick, im definitely buying this, hopefully the real keycaps looks like this, good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: aamo on Wed, 10 August 2022, 00:32:20
So the greek subs will be uv printed and not double shot right?
Maybe that should be added in the specs to avoid confusion, as in the renders the subs look identical to the latin legends
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Greek Sublegend Kit added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Thu, 11 August 2022, 10:36:39
somehow missed this, would love to see a physical sample before shipping. the renders look great though, may pick up an extra if they come out OK

The renders look amazing, but I agree that samples would need to be seen before hand.  Love the colour and please get some UK ISO added into that it.  This would be a no brainer purchase for me.

Sample pictures posted  ;D. We hope you like what you see.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: ankit on Thu, 11 August 2022, 12:59:55
Samples look great. Please do text only R3 Control, the text+icon R3 control is horrible.


Also these don't belong in base imo.
(https://i.imgur.com/p1nRK3P.png)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: finalarcadia on Thu, 11 August 2022, 13:53:43
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: zhol on Thu, 11 August 2022, 16:21:03
I assume that's just sampling tech more than the colors, and they'll match against the legend color later
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: Lingula on Thu, 11 August 2022, 16:25:08
Yeap, agree with the previous post, the text color is a bit plain white. I would like to see it lean to champaign-beige or at least double cream instead of white.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: irithyll on Thu, 11 August 2022, 16:36:56
Samples look better than I expected.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: Friendship on Thu, 11 August 2022, 16:54:24
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige

i do kinda like the whiter legends, maybe something in the middle would be a sweet spot IMO
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: WaynaPawiasek on Thu, 11 August 2022, 16:54:59
1) why is there no "alpha" under the a for example; aren't there a few sublegends missing?
!
2) will there be an international kit?

3) samples look much better than expected! Glwic
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: max.clacks on Thu, 11 August 2022, 17:20:36
1) why is there no "alpha" under the a for example; aren't there a few sublegends missing?
!
2) will there be an international kit?

3) samples look much better than expected! Glwic

Good choice on removing the japanese subs. I've created a greek sublegend file on the KRK discord server legend repository that is open source. Your main options are: Capitalized partial (see GMK evil eye for example, though GMK molds have minor issues) or slightly different variations of lowercase full sublegends (see ePBT Kavala, ePBT Hellas for a couple of variations). Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions or would like assistance choosing between the options on Greek sublegends.

The "lack" of sublegends is likely due to the use of the capitalized partial, Greek sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: less_blank on Thu, 11 August 2022, 18:23:59
Samples look good, remind me of those red plastic cups you'd get at a restaurant.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Thu, 11 August 2022, 18:40:33
sample pics are great quality
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Thu, 11 August 2022, 21:31:04
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige

I must agree with you that the legend colour looks a little desaturated in person. However, I have already taken action and decided to change the colour code. I will make sure the next round of samples will look considerably similar to the renders. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: nakaru on Sat, 13 August 2022, 21:04:54
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige

I must agree with you that the legend colour looks a little desaturated in person. However, I have already taken action and decided to change the colour code. I will make sure the next round of samples will look considerably similar to the renders. Thank you.

Thank you for this change, i much prefer the more cream-colored legends, especially compared to those white looking legends in the samples.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: lootega on Sat, 13 August 2022, 22:12:46
Really wish the keycaps weren't transparent, the holes in em kinda ruin the aesthetic
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: antifocus on Sat, 13 August 2022, 22:58:24
Yeah I hope they can keep the beige/goldish legend color

The white color looks flat to me
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: leexy on Sun, 14 August 2022, 01:23:50
samples looking good. white legends look better than yellow legends
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 14 August 2022, 12:38:42
I'm holding off on if white or gold is better until we see samples of both. From the way these are made the bottom shot might alter the entire color of the keycap depending on if it's darker or not. White legends made the keycap a lot lighter of a red, and hopefully the gold color won't affect it too much.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Tue, 16 August 2022, 08:51:33
I'm holding off on if white or gold is better until we see samples of both. From the way these are made the bottom shot might alter the entire color of the keycap depending on if it's darker or not. White legends made the keycap a lot lighter of a red, and hopefully the gold color won't affect it too much.

I totally agree with you that colour of the bottom shot will have an influence to the overall colour. I will make sure to upload the R2 samples photos once I got them. The legend colour has been changed from RAL 1015 to RAL 1014, which is a more saturated beige.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: KeyBros_ on Tue, 16 August 2022, 08:54:20
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige
This
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 16 August 2022, 10:52:56
Looking forward to these ass caps.   :p

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I do like me some rump tho.  So it's really a compliment.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: synthtastic on Tue, 16 August 2022, 19:32:56
Great looking samples. This is pretty damn cool. Any love for 40s?
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: Rumblethumps on Thu, 18 August 2022, 08:15:25
The holes actually look less prominent than expected on the samples. Of course that could depend on the lighting, but it's encouraging!

The whiter legends in the samples looks nice, but the original beige in the renders looks more unique and stands out more imo.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: Hawkenfreude on Thu, 18 August 2022, 09:40:16
Were any samples of larger keys made? The 1u caps look great, but I'd also like to see modifiers and bars.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: Scriba on Fri, 19 August 2022, 04:17:53
Looks good
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: lemanh97 on Mon, 22 August 2022, 20:55:37
Gold Legend and burgundy caps looks so good! I feel more power already. Looking forward to the set!
If there is any renders of the set on red/burgundy case would be great! 'cause I bet many would buy the set for a red/burgundy keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: TekNiq on Tue, 23 August 2022, 02:43:31
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige

I must agree with you that the legend colour looks a little desaturated in person. However, I have already taken action and decided to change the colour code. I will make sure the next round of samples will look considerably similar to the renders. Thank you.

Is the goal to still be closer to gold? Something that I have issues with often is that renders look gold, but they end up looking beige. Any way we can get a color code to confirm?
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Tue, 23 August 2022, 15:03:06
Text color looks white in samples as opposed to beige

I must agree with you that the legend colour looks a little desaturated in person. However, I have already taken action and decided to change the colour code. I will make sure the next round of samples will look considerably similar to the renders. Thank you.

Is the goal to still be closer to gold? Something that I have issues with often is that renders look gold, but they end up looking beige. Any way we can get a color code to confirm?
renders look beige to me.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Wed, 24 August 2022, 23:45:57
Looking forward to these ass caps.   :p

(Attachment Link)

I do like me some rump tho.  So it's really a compliment.

This is hilarious :D :D
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: nakaru on Sat, 27 August 2022, 16:50:48
I'm so excited to see what the next samples with the more saturated legends will look like as I'm much more interested in that gold/beige color over the more white color.
Also any hints about those similarly beautiful switches that are in the teasers? Having a set of switches that matches the colors of the keycaps would be *chef's kiss* (would like them to be tactile personally but I'd probably get them regardless.)
Thank you again for making this IC and I can't wait for them to go on sale! (please please please have an all in one bundle <3 )
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: lonewolf4 on Tue, 30 August 2022, 11:03:06
Love it, buying for sure if there is ISO-PT support.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Thu, 01 September 2022, 07:05:56
As per your requests, the international kit had been added to the set  :D
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: lonewolf4 on Thu, 01 September 2022, 16:08:04
As per your requests, the international kit had been added to the set  :D

Thank you, would you consider adding the ç for Portugal and the ñ for our Spanish brothers? I think it is all that's needed to fully support ISO-PT and ES
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 01 September 2022, 20:57:26
As per your requests, the international kit had been added to the set  :D

40's?  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Thu, 08 September 2022, 19:58:24
As per your requests, the international kit had been added to the set  :D

40's?  :-*

Currently, there is not a lot of interest in the 40's kit from what I see in the IC form. However, if there is enough demand, we would consider adding it  :).
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: ale210 on Fri, 09 September 2022, 01:13:41
International kit doens't has support to spanish...sorry about that... The market is growing.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Sat, 08 October 2022, 19:53:11
Hello hello. Here's a little update of the project. We have already received the second round of prototype; however, we are not fully satisfied. The legend is still undersaturated and the overall colour is too bright. We apologies for the delay, but please rest assure that we are working very hard with kbdfans to make sure that this set is as stunning as the renders came out. We appreciate you patient and promise will give all of you an update as soon as there. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: ankit on Sat, 08 October 2022, 22:43:06
Samples look great. Please do text only R3 Control, the text+icon R3 control is horrible.


Also these don't belong in base imo.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p1nRK3P.png)


bumping this
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / New updates
Post by: antifocus on Sat, 08 October 2022, 22:52:00
Thanks for keeping us updated, eagerly looking forward to this, also hope you would reconsider those mods in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / New updates
Post by: firimp on Sat, 08 October 2022, 23:04:35
If you look at the back of the keycaps, you'll see that the legends are already beige in color, but due to a visual error, the legends still look like white when viewed from the front, which I believe is the main problem with the current samples (image from kbdfans's qq)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / New updates
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Sat, 08 October 2022, 23:21:05
If you look at the back of the keycaps, you'll see that the legends are already beige in color, but due to a visual error, the legends still look like white when viewed from the front, which I believe is the main problem with the current samples (image from kbdfans's qq)

Thank you for explaining this so well. The under looks beige; however the legend somehow looks desaturated and brighter when exposed to natural light. Therefore, we have decided to change the legend color to RAL 1001 instead of RAL 1014. Hopefully, this will solve the problem we are currently facing 🤞🏼🤞🏼
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / New updates
Post by: arr1 on Sun, 09 October 2022, 06:51:36
Simply amazing. Good luck with the IC and GB
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Sample pictures added
Post by: marcusant on Sun, 09 October 2022, 15:34:03
Samples look great. Please do text only R3 Control, the text+icon R3 control is horrible.


Also these don't belong in base imo.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p1nRK3P.png)


I agree with Ankit that text-only R3 Control would look significantly better
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / International Kit added
Post by: Kokaloo on Sun, 09 October 2022, 16:25:53
As per your requests, the international kit had been added to the set  :D

40's?  :-*

Bumping this
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Tue, 25 October 2022, 21:04:43
Hello hello. Long time no see 😁. We are finally back with some exciting updates about PBTfans™ Pyga. First of all, colour matching has been completed. After three rounds of prototyping, we finally achieved a look similar to the renders. We have to say that the latest samples look incredibly lovely on hand. Photoshoot of the prototype will be updated soon. Moreover, in collaboration with PBTfans™ Pyga, we are proud to introduce you to this gorgeous brass artisan keycap. It comes in R1, 1U Cherry profile with sandblasted surface finishing. We hope you all like what you see 😍.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 25 October 2022, 22:15:32
Oh wow, the artisan sounds pretty epic.  Looking forward to seeing the final results.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: caughtquick on Tue, 25 October 2022, 23:55:55
Really digging the medieval, almost gothic font on this one. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: arr1 on Sat, 29 October 2022, 02:21:23
Excellent set. Glad it now has greeksublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: Nuap on Sun, 30 October 2022, 01:12:14
Very epic  :thumb:


Please please remove the icon from R3 control, command, and stepped command. It looks really out of place and crowded.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 02 November 2022, 11:09:27
Hard not to buy this set. 
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Artisan Keycap Added
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Fri, 04 November 2022, 08:58:10
Excellent set. Glad it now has greeksublegends.

Really digging the medieval, almost gothic font on this one. GLWIC

Very epic  :thumb:


Please please remove the icon from R3 control, command, and stepped command. It looks really out of place and crowded.

Hard not to buy this set. 

Hard not to buy this set.

Thank you. We appreciate all your compliments. Just a little update for you guys, we have decided to add the 40s kit and the set is now ready for production ;)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / Vendors Announced
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 06 November 2022, 04:53:32
Could I request that a 1.5U and 1.25U space bar be also added.  It is rare that this is the case, but I love to have a split space on the left of most of my ergo builds and usually end up having to use a 1.25 ALT or CRTL cap instead of an actual space bar.

Other than that and with UK ISO covered in the International kit, I love this set.  Keep it dark, as dark as the renders.  Too many sets are too light in colour when compared to their renders.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: aiglatsonstudio on Mon, 14 November 2022, 06:45:56
R3 samples photoshoot has been uploaded. PBTfans™ Pyga is also now production and it will be ready for the in-stock sale real soon. Thank you.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: makikatze on Mon, 14 November 2022, 08:17:39
Really nice, the legends look much better than in the first round and more like in the renders. Can't wait to get a set as soon as it hits the vendors :)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: davidhellmann on Tue, 15 November 2022, 14:29:01
Would be interesting how this set matched with the plum iron165 🤔
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: synthtastic on Wed, 16 November 2022, 08:56:18
Thanks for adding a 40s kit! PBTfans Neon and Klein Blue are awesome, and this is gonna be just as good.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: NassimO on Wed, 16 November 2022, 12:33:13
That's a really pretty set, reminds me of old glass bottles
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: DirtyGingy on Sun, 20 November 2022, 17:42:39
I'm just sitting here, waiting for it to go live. Definitely one of my most anticipated sets. Also, no dedicated US vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 21 November 2022, 10:37:15
That's a really pretty set, reminds me of old glass bottles

OOh, that's a nice idea.  What about a green version down the road?  Like a green glass bottle.  Or perhaps brown, too? 
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: less_blank on Tue, 29 November 2022, 21:09:06
Just curious will Divinikey or any other US vendors end up carrying this set like other PBTfans sets?
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 19 December 2022, 05:04:07
Is this actually live yet?
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: Verrine on Mon, 19 December 2022, 05:06:49
Is this actually live yet?

It seems to be, saw.some people with the in-stock release. And I put in my order for my regional vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: section311 on Mon, 19 December 2022, 06:43:52
Is this actually live yet?

It seems to be, saw.some people with the in-stock release. And I put in my order for my regional vendor.

Its been out for couple weeks already. Suggest to follow zfrontier app or web and kdbfans discord. Lot of users with real pictures and other sets not listed here. https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/

Zfrontier is probably better resource than geekhack but you still need to monitor geekhack/etc.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 19 December 2022, 12:44:22
Is this actually live yet?

It seems to be, saw.some people with the in-stock release. And I put in my order for my regional vendor.

Its been out for couple weeks already. Suggest to follow zfrontier app or web and kdbfans discord. Lot of users with real pictures and other sets not listed here. https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/

Zfrontier is probably better resource than geekhack but you still need to monitor geekhack/etc.

I will need to buy from Prototypist but I do not see it for sale yet.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: section311 on Mon, 19 December 2022, 14:31:29
@hottrout Its largely sold out globally. You got to wait for restocks. Maybe follow up within the discord of prototypist. Even taobao sold out atm.

I do see them only reselling slightly above costs on the second hand market (intl one not mm).
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: CaesarAZealad on Mon, 19 December 2022, 14:34:17
Got my kit a bit ago. Weather hasn't been nice enough for pictures, and I don't have a board to mount it on (yet), but this is quality from PBTfans as always. I love how the box is actually displayable on a shelf, and the trays are these heavy duty thick plastic ****ers. Definitely worth every penny. :)
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: section311 on Mon, 19 December 2022, 14:37:45
Is this actually live yet?

https://prototypist.net/products/pre-order-pbtfans-pyga-keycaps

Its an pre-order
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: Friendship on Mon, 19 December 2022, 15:03:43
didn't even know this already produced and sold through, bummer there was no update here.
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: Nuap on Mon, 19 December 2022, 17:37:23
didn't even know this already produced and sold through, bummer there was no update here.


It's not sold through.


Still available from prototypist and allcaps:


https://prototypist.net/products/pre-order-pbtfans-pyga-keycaps?variant=40114221908034
https://allcaps.store/products/gb-pbtfans-pyga?variant=42913013989543
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: Ikeygai Designs on Mon, 19 December 2022, 17:44:30
LOVE the see through transparent layer!
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: Leszy on Tue, 20 December 2022, 05:19:18
didn't even know this already produced and sold through, bummer there was no update here.


It's not sold through.


Still available from prototypist and allcaps:


https://prototypist.net/products/pre-order-pbtfans-pyga-keycaps?variant=40114221908034
https://allcaps.store/products/gb-pbtfans-pyga?variant=42913013989543
Candykeys have them as well:
https://candykeys.com/product/pbtfans-pyga
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: Friendship on Fri, 06 January 2023, 21:00:15
rip sold out everywhere, just is weird they spent all this time updating here but then went silent on sale start date and all that, seems weird?
Title: Re: [IC] PBTfans™ Pyga / R3 Prototype photoshoot updated
Post by: NihonCK on Fri, 06 January 2023, 21:02:55
rip sold out everywhere, just is weird they spent all this time updating here but then went silent on sale start date and all that, seems weird?

if you signed up for notifications on KBD's website, you would have gotten an email notification when the sale launched. Most of the other vendors launched the same day from what I recall