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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: hoggy on Sat, 25 September 2010, 17:06:22

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 25 September 2010, 17:06:22

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-1986-Vintage-IBM-Model-F-Clicky-Keyboard-/250701967175?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice&hash=item3a5f006f47#ht_500wt_963

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 25 September 2010, 17:31:47

Of some note, this is a UK layout version.

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: JBert on Sun, 26 September 2010, 08:21:39

It's still a steal even if you can't use the keyboard feet. It only ships within the UK though.

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 26 September 2010, 09:22:35

The interesting thing is that the UK layout is identical to the US layout, except that the keys are located in different places. Although, if you set a US layout AT to UK, I'm not sure if the key to the left of 1 becomes |\ like on that keyboard, or the logical NOT/grave/half-pipe key that you usually get on a regular UK keyboard.

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: NewbieOneKenobi on Sun, 26 September 2010, 11:33:30

I've used a UK layout keyboard with the US layout no problem (the one in my avatar), even when I still had to look at the captions. You can also do what I have with my M and remove the key caps (they should be double-shot in the F too but I'm not sure). It changes the typing feel to more crispy and F is already more so than M. The result should be funny, like getting zapped by electricity on your fingers. ;) Naturally, if the only difference is key placement, not key number, you can just switch the key caps and forget it had come the other way.

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 26 September 2010, 11:45:42

Quote from: NewbieOneKenobi;226968

I've used a UK layout keyboard with the US layout no problem (the one in my avatar), even when I still had to look at the captions.

I'm talking about the AT keyboard here. On the AT, the \| key is moved beside 1. This is not where it will appear if you set a standard US keyboard to have the UK layout. So I'm wondering if the UK AT Model F has a special controller.

On the flipside, the UK layout could have been different back then.

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You can also do what I have with my M and remove the key caps (they should be double-shot in the F too but I'm not sure).

I think you mean 'double part' (double shot is something completely different). The AT Model F does not have double part keys, only single part ones.

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: Soarer on Sun, 26 September 2010, 12:26:42

Hmm, interesting... it could do with a bath though!!

Are the feet the same as on the XT model F?

Ditto for other bits - basically is an XT version useful for spares when fixing an AT version up?

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: hoggy on Sun, 26 September 2010, 15:26:55

If you aren't in the UK, I would be happy to receive it and forward it on - costs only.

Title: Model F AT on ebay.co.uk
Post by: Soarer on Sun, 26 September 2010, 17:21:37

That's very generous of you! :)

If that was @ me... no need thanks, I'm in the UK ;)