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Title: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: dariannn on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:00:38
GMK Hangulbeit

Welcome to the GMK Hangulbeit IC post. If interested, fill out the form! The stronger the engagement, the sooner we feel it is ready to proceed to GB!
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/cD5Hf4pdG2oprf3k7)


Background

Hi all, it’s Darian (dnworksco). There are two things I continually rave about: GMK Handarbeit and Hangul sublegends. Handarbeit is an iconic set inspired by the G81-3000HBD keyboard with an attention-grabbing color scheme. Likewise, hangul sublegends harmoniously balance the left and right sides on each individual keycap, while the brimming legend colors contrast nicely against the base color as a whole. The appreciation for the unlikely pair coalesces into this IC post for GMK Hangulbeit, Handarbeit with Korean sublegends. The kitting for GMK Hangulbeit was done in collaboration with Meru_Meru. While planning the hangul alpha kit, we thought we might as well offer texticon mods kit in the same GB. We hope the mod kit will make many texticon appreciators rejoice also. These are add-on kits only, intended to be supplementarily used as child kits to Handarbeit base kits.


Kits

Hangul Alpha Add-on Kit
(https://imgur.com/wZPNGXa.png)
In addition to the blue R4 pipe key, we stylistically included a purple one as well if you prefer to maintain the original colorblocking

Texticon Modifiers Add-on Kit
(https://imgur.com/LG4cu8r.png)
Extra 2.25u shift for 660 support

Colors

Uses the exact same stock colors as Handarbeit. WS1 will be used for Hangul sublegends

Hangulbeit Color Code
(https://i.imgur.com/AxvO3FG.png)


Renders

Coming soon


Vendors

  • US (lead) - TBD
  • Other regional vendors - TBD
Pricing & MOQ

Request for quotes have been submitted to GMK. Waiting for response.
Hangul alpha add-on - TBD
Texticon mod add-on - TBD

Timeline

Date - TBD (1 month GB window)


Artisans Collaboration

TBD - Reach out to MeruMeru#0001 or darian#7777 on discord for inquiries


Social

Follow dnworks.co on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/dnworksco/) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/Dariann) for teasers of more upcoming cool projects

Acknowledgements

We would like to acknowledge cocobrais for giving us their blessing and for previously running GMK Handarbeit, Hangulbeit would not have been possible without their contributions.

We would also like to thank Popkorn from Mekibo for the support.

Last but not least, we are extremely thankful for you showing interest and taking the time to read the IC. GB will only be possible with your continual support!

Changelog
2022.08.23 - Added Stepped Control, change 1.5u backspace from '<-back' to 'Delete' legend
2022.08.19 – Interest Check Live
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: ankit on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:02:30
reserved
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Fraaaan on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:04:17
Usually ICs showcase and talk about the product. Good try, though.

Nevermind, I liked the IC better without any words or images. :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Rayhieng on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:04:56
Yesyesyes need
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:08:22
Will this also be $2001 F&F + shipping and can you provide hex codes like the other keyboard projects?   
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: unusuaL_ on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:08:30
@user2946364730963627778986942718#6948 would love to go all in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: MSA_Vision on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:10:22
Buy out the MOQ and flip it, the darian style.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Qarmaa on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:11:05
why wouldn't you just go and do your favourite thing -- flip keyboards
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Hinkerbottom on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:12:50
much color  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: speedycake on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:17:34
finally texticon handarbeit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Nuclear Nachos on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:21:40
that 1.5u backspace is pretty not good imo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: jewleeuhn on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:33:15
does this match greg ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:42:06
that 1.5u backspace is pretty not good imo

I abhor that 1.5u "Back"

Please just use text "Backspace" or "Delete" legend
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Krelbit on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:42:48
i have been abandoned by mekibo popkorn for this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: LMarci on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:44:02
 :blank:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: finalarcadia on Fri, 19 August 2022, 16:53:27
In
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Remsky on Fri, 19 August 2022, 17:00:37
Lmao why not
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Sleepdealr on Fri, 19 August 2022, 17:01:35
stop
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: pancake on Fri, 19 August 2022, 17:07:46
does this match greg ?

it better not
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 19 August 2022, 17:16:42
gotta make money somehow
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: dallman5 on Fri, 19 August 2022, 17:46:30
that 1.5u backspace is pretty not good imo

I abhor that 1.5u "Back"

Please just use text "Backspace" or "Delete" legend

this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: dariannn on Fri, 19 August 2022, 18:05:45
@lightning @nuclearnachos @dallman5
was pondering the same thing and will do that.
thanks for the input!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: SirShakes on Fri, 19 August 2022, 18:27:21
Will this also be $2001 F&F + shipping and can you provide hex codes like the other keyboard projects?   
only RAL avail.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: blunt on Fri, 19 August 2022, 18:55:45
Will this be sold as F&F and through wise? Will the total cost include shipping or not
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Soums on Fri, 19 August 2022, 19:14:38
Love the colors, Not a huge fan of hangul sub legends, though, so was wondering if a Latin alpha-only version could be added!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Neely_12 on Fri, 19 August 2022, 19:32:24
Consider adding red F, J, tilde, and pipe (and maybe an extra 7u or smth) to work with other sets

Edit: would really only work with classic red since there’s no extra punctuation, so f and j would prob be the only realistic additions
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: SirShakes on Fri, 19 August 2022, 19:32:53
Will this be sold as F&F and through wise? Will the total cost include shipping or not
looks like it is going to be sold through mekibo, shipping added in cart
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Omnias on Sat, 20 August 2022, 00:05:01
Love the colors, Not a huge fan of hangul sub legends, though, so was wondering if a Latin alpha-only version could be added!

wouldn't that just be normal handarbeit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Soums on Sat, 20 August 2022, 01:46:33
Love the colors, Not a huge fan of hangul sub legends, though, so was wondering if a Latin alpha-only version could be added!

wouldn't that just be normal handarbeit?

Holy ****, your right just rerun handerbeit instead :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: MoarCoffeePlzzz on Sat, 20 August 2022, 09:43:40
Will you sign my box?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: Sandy on Sat, 20 August 2022, 15:04:01
I’m going to preface this by saying i know nothing about moq.
I really hope this succeeds considering it’s a niche extension for a pretty specific set. I’m not sure what could be done to increase the amount of people that could be interested. Adding mods only makes hitting moq harder.

Glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: toxicity on Sun, 21 August 2022, 17:54:47
Will this get him out of #gallery in KC / discord mm?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 21 August 2022, 18:46:41
add purple enter
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 21 August 2022, 18:49:45
that 1.5u backspace is pretty not good imo

I abhor that 1.5u "Back"

Please just use text "Backspace" or "Delete" legend

also agree with this, that legend is worse than box backspace
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: CGY on Sun, 21 August 2022, 21:44:50
hangulbeit so lit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handerbeit
Post by: dariannn on Sun, 21 August 2022, 23:53:56
that 1.5u backspace is pretty not good imo

I abhor that 1.5u "Back"

Please just use text "Backspace" or "Delete" legend

also agree with this, that legend is worse than box backspace

Yup already done  :thumb:

hangulbeit so lit

 :-*

stepped control has been added as well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: bespokekbdconnoisseur on Mon, 22 August 2022, 02:08:30
darian darian, the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the hobby. flipper, clout chaser and maybe a bit of designer astroturfing all for the sole purpose of financial gain.

mekibo mekibo, going from "a vendor" to a "a vendor that condones the likes of darian" is not a good look.

with the formalities out of the way, here is some suggestions to maximize the flip-potential after GB fulfillment:
that being said, won't join a project with a connection to darian at any degree of separation.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: ankit on Mon, 22 August 2022, 03:02:59
change modifier kit to a full addon kit

disagree, the point is for it to replace Handarbeit's icon mods with text + icon this is fine other than the 1.5u backspace which is already fixed
i like this drop in replacement kitting over making it a whole alphas and mod kit but to each their own

also i have no idea how to do kitting
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: dariannn on Mon, 22 August 2022, 09:43:10
darian darian, the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the hobby. flipper, clout chaser and maybe a bit of designer astroturfing all for the sole purpose of financial gain.

mekibo mekibo, going from "a vendor" to a "a vendor that condones the likes of darian" is not a good look.

with the formalities out of the way, here is some suggestions to maximize the flip-potential after GB fulfillment:
  • change back to backspace/delete
  • purple enter
  • Hangul addon would be better served as full alternate alphas to be combined with WoB/BoW/etc with the Handarbeit specific caps as 'extras'
  • change modifier kit to a full addon kit like GMK Icon Modi and TTY add-on (ft. beige) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=117751.0) for instance. ankit knows a thing or two about kitting and IC's, you should hit him up for help and suggestions
that being said, won't join a project with a connection to darian at any degree of separation.
hello alt account,
appreciate the input lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 22 August 2022, 10:02:13
darian darian, the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the hobby. flipper, clout chaser and maybe a bit of designer astroturfing all for the sole purpose of financial gain.

mekibo mekibo, going from "a vendor" to a "a vendor that condones the likes of darian" is not a good look.

with the formalities out of the way, here is some suggestions to maximize the flip-potential after GB fulfillment:
  • change back to backspace/delete
  • purple enter
  • Hangul addon would be better served as full alternate alphas to be combined with WoB/BoW/etc with the Handarbeit specific caps as 'extras'
  • change modifier kit to a full addon kit like GMK Icon Modi and TTY add-on (ft. beige) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=117751.0) for instance. ankit knows a thing or two about kitting and IC's, you should hit him up for help and suggestions
that being said, won't join a project with a connection to darian at any degree of separation.

imagine making an alt account to **** on the content of the IC but not reading the thread to see if anything you list has been mentioned

embarrassing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: Meru_Meru on Mon, 22 August 2022, 11:56:56
darian darian, the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the hobby. flipper, clout chaser and maybe a bit of designer astroturfing all for the sole purpose of financial gain.

mekibo mekibo, going from "a vendor" to a "a vendor that condones the likes of darian" is not a good look.

with the formalities out of the way, here is some suggestions to maximize the flip-potential after GB fulfillment:
  • change back to backspace/delete
  • purple enter
  • Hangul addon would be better served as full alternate alphas to be combined with WoB/BoW/etc with the Handarbeit specific caps as 'extras'
  • change modifier kit to a full addon kit like GMK Icon Modi and TTY add-on (ft. beige) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=117751.0) for instance. ankit knows a thing or two about kitting and IC's, you should hit him up for help and suggestions
that being said, won't join a project with a connection to darian at any degree of separation.

Hi MeruMeru here, the other co-runner for the set! Without derailing the thread with regards to flipping ethics (or lack thereof), I appreciate your genuine suggestion for the kitting despite protesting.

The objective of Hangulbeit, as ankit mentioned, is to offer hangul and texticon as a supplement to handarbeit, rather than a standalone replacement as a whole. Concerning your input:

I respectfully understand those who choose not to support the works/projects involving people with a reputation. That being said, as long as I am involved in this project I will be as wholehearted and transparent on my part.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: bespokekbdconnoisseur on Tue, 23 August 2022, 05:22:04
Hi MeruMeru here, the other co-runner for the set! Without derailing the thread with regards to flipping ethics (or lack thereof), I appreciate your genuine suggestion for the kitting despite protesting.

The objective of Hangulbeit, as ankit mentioned, is to offer hangul and texticon as a supplement to handarbeit, rather than a standalone replacement as a whole. Concerning your input:

  • Thanks to recurrent constructive feedback, 1.5u backspace will be changed to 'Delete'. Stepped Control also added!
  • To preserve the original concept of GMK Handarbeit and its inspiration, purple enter is not in consideration at the moment unless there is an overwhelming push to include it
  • Our intention is to make the minimum amount of changes without entirely revising and encroaching on the kitting in the original base kit. The alpha and modifier add-ons as it is are sufficient.
I respectfully understand those who choose not to support the works/projects involving people with a reputation. That being said, as long as I am involved in this project I will be as wholehearted and transparent on my part.  :)

Who would have thought that this IC spawned two alt accounts, it must have stirred up some feelings :). Thanks for the response, I stand by that this would be better served as one or two addon kit(s). I won't derail this IC any further beyond this post, we clearly have different standards when it comes to moral and ethics.

imagine making an alt account to **** on the content of the IC but not reading the thread to see if anything you list has been mentioned

embarrassing

hello alt account,
appreciate the input lol

Imagine bringing up the post count or supposed alt account status instead of the merits of the laid out statements and suggestions. First time posters should refrain from voicing any objections or concerns of anything and should stick to praising the OP ? (don't answer, it's a rhetorical question)

It is true that this IC irked me enough to create an account but now that that barrier is passed I can enjoy all wonderful things that the geekhack community brings.

That being said, I think I have said what's needed to be said in this IC with my first post in this thread (and on geekhack :)). I voiced my concerns about ethics and values, gave suggestions but ultimately have no skin in the game as I will not back or participate in this IC/GB, as normalizing the likes of darian will ruin the hobby.

I am warning you with peace and love. I have too much to do, so no more @ replies! And no objects to be signed. Nothing! Anyway, peace and love, peace and love. (*)

(*) this includes your inevitable "I got the last word in, I sure told them off" follow-up post
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: rodok on Tue, 23 August 2022, 07:28:24
Damn it, you beat me to it. I had wanted to run GMK WeebArbeit for a while now but holy, good job on your end!
All jokes aside, GL with the IC and for sure hooked.
Maybe consider a windows logo but with hangul icon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Tue, 23 August 2022, 17:24:03
ne 3key 40s avail
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: dariannn on Tue, 23 August 2022, 19:36:41
ne 3key 40s avail
haha, I had a few people dm me about that but I feel like its too niche to implement into the kit to stay at a low price and meet MOQ :(
I'm sorry!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 23 August 2022, 19:53:47
ne 3key 40s avail
haha, I had a few people dm me about that but I feel like its too niche to implement into the kit to stay at a low price and meet MOQ :(
I'm sorry!

3 key too niche? You you are running a drop in alpha kit for a fairly polarizing set.
3 key might actually diversify your target audience. Edit the poll - and see what the numbers say.
If you get more interest in your alphas than 40s I will F&F u a dollar. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: Meru_Meru on Tue, 23 August 2022, 20:08:41
Damn it, you beat me to it. I had wanted to run GMK WeebArbeit for a while now but holy, good job on your end!
All jokes aside, GL with the IC and for sure hooked.
Maybe consider a windows logo but with hangul icon.

Haha there needs to be more kana legends sets out there!  :D
Thanks for the compliment! Is there a specific hangul icon you're referring to? We want to avoid creating new custom molds to keep the pricing as low as possible to better the odds of hitting MOQ
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: rodok on Wed, 24 August 2022, 01:23:22
Quote
Haha there needs to be more kana legends sets out there!  :D
Thanks for the compliment! Is there a specific hangul icon you're referring to? We want to avoid creating new custom molds to keep the pricing as low as possible to better the odds of hitting MOQ

You bet haha!
Maybe the W icon that is on the backspace? Something uniform yet simple which can be centered.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: JQ27 on Thu, 25 August 2022, 08:37:38
ne Nachtarbeit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 25 August 2022, 09:27:00
ne 3key 40s avail
haha, I had a few people dm me about that but I feel like its too niche to implement into the kit to stay at a low price and meet MOQ :(
I'm sorry!

3 key too niche? You you are running a drop in alpha kit for a fairly polarizing set.
3 key might actually diversify your target audience. Edit the poll - and see what the numbers say.
If you get more interest in your alphas than 40s I will F&F u a dollar.

not really relevant to this IC but 40s kits have had less adoption than ISO kits over the past 18 months
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: Meru_Meru on Thu, 25 August 2022, 09:53:34
ne Nachtarbeit?

Unfortunately, add-ons for Nachtarbeit is not a realistic possibility considering the base has a low total quantity order, let alone actual pre-extras purchases.  This is to avoid spreading too thin and improving our odds of reaching MOQ, sorry!  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: milka158 on Thu, 25 August 2022, 10:33:00
Please use 1.5u "Backspace" instead of "Delete".
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: JQ27 on Thu, 25 August 2022, 10:42:17
ne Nachtarbeit?

Unfortunately, add-ons for Nachtarbeit is not a realistic possibility considering the base has a low total quantity order, let alone actual pre-extras purchases.  This is to avoid spreading too thin and improving our odds of reaching MOQ, sorry!  :(

Fair enough! Never hurts to ask  :D

Will have to get a WoB Hangul and some sharpies  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit (Mekibo)
Post by: zhol on Sun, 28 August 2022, 04:44:08
not really relevant to this IC but 40s kits have had less adoption than ISO kits over the past 18 months

also not really relevant but for the sake of keeping the pissing contest going, if you count gb's completed from q1 2021 to now between sets that have had both 40s and various iso extension kits, the 40's kits outsell the iso extension kits more frequently

(https://i.imgur.com/y1DPLIB.png)

anyway i look forward to hangulbeit nordeuk revision, it sounds like a great idea and it'll get some more customers in the mix
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: dariannn on Mon, 29 August 2022, 16:23:02
oops
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Hangulbeit | Hangul & Texticon add-on kits for Handarbeit
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sat, 03 September 2022, 10:34:43
nice