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Title: FFx
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 August 2022, 23:34:30
We were using it BEFORE it was kewl.

Now with chrome removing adblockers, we will see a mass exodus.


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Title: Re: FFx
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 25 August 2022, 01:58:21
Not just Chrome, anything Chrome/Chromium based, including Edge, MS is going to adopt the same system.
Besides, it won't matter if your Chrome based browser supports good adblocking since all of them use the Google extension store and it won't be there to download/install.

Ublock Origin said they could make a version that complied with the new system but it would have removed a lot of functionality and decided to just leave the platform (see).
Supposedly Adblock Plus will continue to work, however Adblock Plus was purchased by an ad agency and they sell the data (just like Ghostery) and exempt any ad service that asks, there's a reason Google ads are enabled by default on it. Don't use it.



Some are saying it won't be a huge number switching, I beg to differ.
Current stats indicate 42% of people use an adblocker, it's not the counter culture/geek thing people think it is and if you think they will adjust and think it's not a big deal I dare you to go and turn of all your adblocking for a week. Things are way worse than they were when you first started running an adblocker. WAY WORSE.

If even 10% leave Chrome for Firefox (ignoring Edge and Brave), it would double Firefox's userbase.
Title: Re: FFx
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 25 August 2022, 07:50:49

it would double Firefox's userbase.


I have always felt that Mozilla was a pretty clean and legit operation, for as much as that is possible, considering ....

Been using Firefox for at least 15 years, is there any reason not to stay put? And do you recommend Duck Duck Go?

Thanks
Title: Re: FFx
Post by: Leslieann on Thu, 25 August 2022, 11:52:47
Stay put.

DuckDuckGo (DDG) isn't bad but one thing stands out and that is Bing.
They grab data from multiple search engines and anonymize that data to advertisers, except for Bing. They claim this is a limitation of the API, and honestly it probably is, the problem is that API is meant to tailor results, the same thing they are fighting for and they were not up front about it. But is it required? Personally, I think this was a deal with MS but if they admit that, Google would want the same. That said, they are one of the better search engines at the moment and I do use them, just be aware they aren't quite as anonymous as they make it seem.

I prefer SearX (searx.info) which is a Google anonymizer, however it had API issues too often and would get locked out. I'm not sure if it's fixed yet or not, I should give them another shot.