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Title: [IC] flash 60% WKL | GB Closed
Post by: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 11:17:28
60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg



Check GB Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118354.0)


She is small but strong

As a fan of anime, I tried to melt the character's mood into the housing.
I designed it to be simple, but to reveal individuality.
It contains structural characteristics that I like.
Top mount, 8 deg, brass bottom, 3.1kg.



(https://i.imgur.com/LdvvbDz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mUGh7JE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0L52h1C.png)



Specifications

Mount : Top Mount

Plate : Standard

Weight : 3.1kg (built)

Materials
Top case: A6061, anodized
Bottom case: Brass, sandblasted & clear-coated
Plate: A5052, anodized

Front Height & Typing Angle

(https://i.imgur.com/Ts8M3Js.png)



Exploded View

(https://i.imgur.com/uxgK8Lp.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/18C2zMh.png)



Plate

(https://i.imgur.com/Ceke5Es.png)

Color: Gold color fixed.

Design Interpretation
1. Removed the screw around the spacebar, which presses harder when typing compared to other keys.
2. To reduce distance deviation, 5 screw holes are placed in a 'W' shape.



Brass Bottom

(https://i.imgur.com/Mg0mzJC.png)

Why Use Brass?
The keyboard doesn't necessarily have to be heavy. Especially for gasket mounting.
However, heavy brass has the advantage of damping vibrations when using a foamless top mount.
   

(https://i.imgur.com/ODnHndQ.png)

Section Analysis
Reduced the gap between the floor and the PCB by raising the floor height except for switches, stabilizers, and small component locations.



Layout

(https://i.imgur.com/hkLmQBb.png)

60% WKL Fixed



For more details, check out the
Flash Official Document (https://pentagonal-mulberry-63c.notion.site/Flash-0f3753d4a85541c195b1879964fe47b3)



IC form (https://forms.gle/wRaScXR6d5bKBjgKA)
Wishing those who do IC full of happiness




00:00 27th Sep - 23:59 29th Sep
(KST)



Price
As more people buy together, the price decreases in stages


Base kit
Alu Top
Brass Bottom
Screws and bumpons
*ADD-ONs are NOT INCLUDED

QTYPrice ($)
50~99300
100~199280
200~300260

MOQ : 50 units
MAX : 300 units

ADD-ONs
Solderable PCB : $45 -> $39
Daughterboard & JST cable: $10 -> $9
(Custom PCB and Daughterboard by Hiney)
Alu plate: $20
*Non-Korean buyers will be charged a 4.4% PayPal fee



Gift for Early Bird
The first 100 people participating in the Discord channel will receive an Alu Plate
and the 101st~200th entrants will receive a Daughterboard & JST Cable


(https://i.imgur.com/qUw2qwJ.png) (https://discord.gg/Uh2hbwp43h)


✨ Touching the logo will summon you to KEYPPORT World ✨



Thank you to everyone who supported my project,
and I will do my best to provide you with a satisfying typing experience.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: The0rigina1 on Mon, 12 September 2022, 11:31:11
I think the ano quality could still be better
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: ankit on Mon, 12 September 2022, 11:58:05
this is not an IC, you have pricing and sales date

by a soft cap of 50 do you mean an moq of 50?
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 12:09:04
Quote from: ankit-sachdeva on Mon, 12 September 2022, 11:58:05
this is not an IC, you have pricing and sales date

by a soft cap of 50 do you mean an moq of 50?

Yes. Soft cap stands for moq.
I wanted to get more feedback, so I uploaded it to IC. It can be changed.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 12:16:09
Quote from: The0rigina1 on Mon, 12 September 2022, 11:31:11
I think the ano quality could still be better
I'll ask for more samples of the anodized texture.
I would also consider the raw aluminum option as an alternative.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 12 September 2022, 12:24:40
Really like the back design, it is awesome,   Thank you for producing
I like brass bottom!

Yes improve anodization. 
Ayaya!
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: The0rigina1 on Mon, 12 September 2022, 12:25:40
Quote from: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 12:09:04
Quote from: ankit-sachdeva on Mon, 12 September 2022, 11:58:05
this is not an IC, you have pricing and sales date

by a soft cap of 50 do you mean an moq of 50?

Yes. Soft cap stands for moq.
I wanted to get more feedback, so I uploaded it to IC. It can be changed.

Soft cap really doesn't stand for moq.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:13:07
Holy ****, these days I don't know if it's more complicated to do a project or to get people's definition of IC right.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: fortissim2 on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:18:12
Looks good! GLWIC :)
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:31:40
Quote from: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:13:07
Holy ****, these days I don't know if it's more complicated to do a project or to get people's definition of IC right.
I thought everything should be fixed at the GB level.
I would like to improve through feedback.
Do you think this should be moved directly to GB?
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: hemlock on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:46:01
These days people so butt hurt on whats considered an IC, smh.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 14:08:06
Quote from: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:31:40
Quote from: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:13:07
Holy ****, these days I don't know if it's more complicated to do a project or to get people's definition of IC right.
I thought everything should be fixed at the GB level.
I would like to improve through feedback.
Do you think this should be moved directly to GB?
No, I meant it looks like people is more focused in trying to tell what is an IC and what is not than enjoying the product or giving just feedback
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 12 September 2022, 14:17:22
Quote from: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:13:07
Holy ****, these days I don't know if it's more complicated to do a project or to get people's definition of IC right.
You post an IC, and you'll get one of two responses:
-"This is not an IC at all, you need to put some more effort it."
-"This is not an IC at all, there's no room for change at all."
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 14:27:39
Quote from: Nonnegaard on Mon, 12 September 2022, 14:17:22
Quote from: KeyBros_ on Mon, 12 September 2022, 13:13:07
Holy ****, these days I don't know if it's more complicated to do a project or to get people's definition of IC right.
You post an IC, and you'll get one of two responses:
-"This is not an IC at all, you need to put some more effort it."
-"This is not an IC at all, there's no room for change at all."
Legit
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: ankit on Mon, 12 September 2022, 14:43:09
the original post is a gb post not an ic post

1. nowhere in the original post does the OP mention anything that they are looking for feedback on, they only mentioned it afterwards
2. there is no form, how is OP going to gauge interest without an IC form
3. it is not more difficult to post in the GB section, it’s literally the exact same process
4. 10 days is not enough time to make any meaningful changes and get new protos so why even IC at that point

hopefully that clears up my comment
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 15:57:45
Quote from: ankit-sachdeva on Mon, 12 September 2022, 14:43:09
the original post is a gb post not an ic post

1. nowhere in the original post does the OP mention anything that they are looking for feedback on, they only mentioned it afterwards
2. there is no form, how is OP going to gauge interest without an IC form
3. it is not more difficult to post in the GB section, it’s literally the exact same process
4. 10 days is not enough time to make any meaningful changes and get new protos so why even IC at that point

hopefully that clears up my comment
I understand.
I wrote "No" for other layouts and hotswap PCB support in the FAQ and set the price and schedule.
It's not just an IC that starts from rendering, and it's a project where my tastes are firmly fused.
But I wanted to talk about your favorite color or what material you would like to use for the aluminum plate (5052 or 6061), etc.
I agree that reply is insufficient space to accommodate many comments, so let's add a Google IC form.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Mon, 12 September 2022, 17:09:35
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Thank you.
Dalco was one of my wannabes.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: Nuap on Mon, 12 September 2022, 18:44:42
What's up with that layout? Are you sure that you're splitting right shift the correct way?

(https://i.imgur.com/MbPQZCh.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Tue, 13 September 2022, 00:01:06
Quote from: Nuap on Mon, 12 September 2022, 18:44:42
What's up with that layout? Are you sure that you're splitting right shift the correct way?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/MbPQZCh.png)

Thanks for pointing out
The splitting right shift needs to be changed.
Edited.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Tue, 13 September 2022, 02:24:02
IC form added.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: KeyBros_ on Tue, 13 September 2022, 14:36:41
Quote from: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)

what
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: The0rigina1 on Wed, 14 September 2022, 04:13:30
Quote from: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)

discourse and group you can't be serious LMFAO
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: syntxtypes on Wed, 14 September 2022, 05:50:34
Quote from: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)


i love geekhack
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Thu, 15 September 2022, 17:00:57
Regarding anodizing
I got feedback on the rough texture of the anodizing I produced as a prototype.
I contacted the factories to solve the problem.

(https://i.imgur.com/0nMIGhu.jpg)
This is a color sample.

Flash to be manufactured will be smoother than the sample.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Thu, 15 September 2022, 17:06:59
(https://i.imgur.com/LdvvbDz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mUGh7JE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0L52h1C.png)

Finally, yellow was added.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: hemlock on Thu, 15 September 2022, 22:25:30
Quote from: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)


That one fake friend whos nice in person but talk **** behind your back.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Fri, 16 September 2022, 00:19:44
Quote from: hemlock on Thu, 15 September 2022, 22:25:30
Quote from: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)


That one fake friend whos nice in person but talk **** behind your back.

He is a funny friend.
His brain seems to be fixed with two types of mounting.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: KeyBros_ on Fri, 16 September 2022, 00:46:49
Quote from: keypport on Fri, 16 September 2022, 00:19:44
Quote from: hemlock on Thu, 15 September 2022, 22:25:30
Quote from: discourse and group on Tue, 13 September 2022, 12:44:55
Quote from: lewisflude on Mon, 12 September 2022, 16:07:40
Looks great! Good luck with the IC

Mount points look nice :)

Have a nice day my friend
Show Image
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kz3Yg8fW/foto-no-exif.png)


That one fake friend whos nice in person but talk **** behind your back.

He is a funny friend.
His brain seems to be fixed with two types of mounting.
LOL.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: Jefff on Fri, 16 September 2022, 19:28:10
This is literally just a GB post... You already have pricing and a sale date.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Sun, 18 September 2022, 02:51:30
Quote from: Jefff on Fri, 16 September 2022, 19:28:10
This is literally just a GB post... You already have pricing and a sale date.

Yes. Based on the feedback received from IC, the contents of the GB were confirmed.
Now waiting for moderator's GB thread approval.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: Nuap on Sun, 18 September 2022, 06:57:21
How do the GB price brackets work? Will you refund orders when a lower price is reached?
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Sun, 18 September 2022, 09:09:14
Quote from: Nuap on Sun, 18 September 2022, 06:57:21
How do the GB price brackets work? Will you refund orders when a lower price is reached?

Updated.
The base kit sells for $300.
Additional discounts will be applied to shipping charges after global sales are aggregated.
For example, if more than 200 units are sold, you will be charged $0 shipping for East Asia and SEA, and $20 shipping for NA, EU and Oceania regions.
Title: Re: [IC] Flash | 60% WKL, Top Mount, 3.1kg
Post by: keypport on Tue, 20 September 2022, 13:15:21
GB thread opened.

Sale Time
00:00 27th Sep - 23:59 29th Sep (KST)
Title: Re: [IC] Flash 60% WKL | GB 27th Sep - 29th Sep
Post by: keypport on Sat, 24 September 2022, 04:15:29
Updated PCB Price
Flash's PCB is yellow and has a small keypport character logo on it.

To keep the price down, I started H60 JST Group Buy for Koreans.

The changed prices are as follows:
Solderable PCB:  $45 -> $39
Daughterboard & JST cable: $10 -> $9
Title: Re: [IC] Flash 60% WKL | GB 27th Sep - 29th Sep
Post by: keypport on Mon, 26 September 2022, 11:40:47
Flash GB started.

27th Sep - 29th Sep