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Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 28 September 2010, 12:10:30: This (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keyring) item is waiting to take a big trip around the world.

This is your chance for all you non-topre owners to try out the famous Topre switch. This Topre keyswitch is very small and very light and hence the shipping charges will be minimal.

If you are interested in receiving it, trying it out and then sending it on again on its trip please PM me. I will maintain a so called sinklist with the participants at http://www.mrinterface.com. I will wait for 1 week to collect participants then I will send it out.

Kind Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 28 September 2010, 12:15:26: Great idea! Did you recycle that from a Realforce?

Edit: 666 posts. Spooky...
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 28 September 2010, 12:31:53: Quote from: keyboardlover;227652
Great idea! Did you recycle that from a Realforce?

Edit: 666 posts. Spooky...

666 : the number of the numerologist... :-)

This item is non-recycled. It is a genuine Topre Keychain. Only the keycap is swapped for a realforce Escape key.

I got it from someone believing in the concept.( That is : Open Sink -> to spread hardware over the world in order for the participants to form an opinion ) Open Sink is loosely based on GeoCaching.....

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 28 September 2010, 13:10:15: So I'm going to have to find a rock in a park and dig to find the keychain?

:P
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 28 September 2010, 13:15:54: I've heard that when you press this it plays the song "Hard Work" and summons Ron "Typewriter" Mingo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv9o6t1jnuc).
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: washuai on Tue, 28 September 2010, 13:33:58: Wicked. That's great that you're doing that. It would have been really great to be able to get a feel for Topre, before ownership.

I wish Topre just sold the keychain, rather than rare Japanese give aways. I'd like to feel the oneness with cup rubber anytime, anywhere and my whole keyboard is too big for that, even if it is the smallest keyboard I own. Well, the silicone keyboard is smaller volume wise.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 06:27:28: And it's away (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keychain) to destinies unknown... ( together with a nice buddy sheet )

To send it off from Holland to the U.S.A it did cost me 1 euro and 90 cents. Peanuts compared to buying a topre keyboard ;-)

For those who participate : please don't violate the trust(!). This only works if you abide by the rules and give others a chance to try.

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: lam47 on Sat, 02 October 2010, 06:50:56: Where did you get the keyring? I would love to have one of my own.
I bought a Happy Hacker to try the keys out. Good job I love them.
Nothing comes close in my opinion. It makes writing anything feel good.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 07:38:44: Quote from: lam47;228898
Where did you get the keyring? I would love to have one of my own.
I bought a Happy Hacker to try the keys out. Good job I love them.
Nothing comes close in my opinion. It makes writing anything feel good.

I got it from a fellow geekhacker who believes in the concept of open sink. When everything works out ok and the keyring will return to me because there are no more people on the sinklist I will reveal the name of the mystery do-gooder ;-)

And Yes : out of all the keyboards I have tried, the topre is my favorite ( the two boards I own also get a 10/10 rating on my site )

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: darkblader on Sat, 02 October 2010, 08:02:53: The Topre 103UB would be perfect if the price would match a filco majestouch. :P
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 02 October 2010, 08:44:40: I think that you should have a rule that it should be posted to the next person the same or the next day that the first person receives it.
The last time I was involved in something like this, it took the item (a travelling Yoda doll) a very long time to get around the world.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Sat, 02 October 2010, 11:21:25: When and who do I post my address?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 02 October 2010, 11:57:10: Quote from: darkblader
The Topre 103UB would be perfect if the price would match a filco majestouch. :P

Speaking as one who struggled with the price before, IMO it's worth the extra $100 or so. Wayyy worth it.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: darkblader on Sat, 02 October 2010, 12:25:54: Quote from: keyboardlover;228988
Speaking as one who struggled with the price before, IMO it's worth the extra $100 or so. Wayyy worth it.

it isnt even 100$ more here in germany the filco costs 150Euro The Topre 220Euro.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 02 October 2010, 13:14:03: Does the keychain plug into your computer?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 13:55:36: Quote from: WhiteRice;228965
When and who do I post my address?

When : when it's your turn on the list. Ofcourse you can PM me earlier with your address....

Who : me!

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 13:57:05: Quote from: microsoft windows;229010
Does the keychain plug into your computer?

[Serious mode on] Nope [Serious mode off]
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sat, 02 October 2010, 13:59:46: Think it could make a stopover in New Orleans?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:05:16: Quote from: Phaedrus2129;229027
Think it could make a stopover in New Orleans?

Ofcourse.... Is this an appeal to get on the list? Because I already put you on it....

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:09:38: Thanks! :)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:10:18: Quote from: Findecanor;228909
I think that you should have a rule that it should be posted to the next person the same or the next day that the first person receives it.
The last time I was involved in something like this, it took the item (a travelling Yoda doll) a very long time to get around the world.

Good point. I leave it to the participants to figure that one out themselves. There is a reason I started this on GH instead of OCN ;-)

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: NamelessPFG on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:34:52: Oh crap, is it too late for me to get in this list?

I hope it has a light or something to signify the actual electrical switching, though. Tactile feedback can be quite deceiving in terms of electrical response, as I found with that Focus FK-2001 and its white XMs that I used to have.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:42:55: If this is some kind of pyramid scheme, I can see something wrong with the process. :smile:
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:47:50: Quote from: kishy;229036
Don't suppose I could somehow get on this list?

The best way to evaluate feel is, of course, a full keyboard and actually typing...but I'm curious to see what they feel like.

In my case, next-in-line would probably have to be US or Canada. Elsewhere can be "big money", $5-10 with Canada Post (without squishing it down really tiny, which is obviously not good)

There is already one other from canada. I'll reshuffle the list to make it more practical ( the path with the least amount of border crossings :-) )

This list grows dynamically : in theory it never closes..... So , I put you on the list.

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:50:34: Quote from: NamelessPFG;229037
Oh crap, is it too late for me to get in this list?

Nope, you are on the list.

Just PM me the country you live in so I can optimize the travel path for the sink list item.

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 14:52:18: Quote from: Rajagra;229040
If this is some kind of pyramid scheme, I can see something wrong with the process. :smile:

*cackle*

You guys are excellent with photoshop....
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Parabellum on Sat, 02 October 2010, 15:21:38: I wouldn't mind trying it on for size, throw me on the list.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 02 October 2010, 15:41:40: Quote from: Parabellum;229047
I wouldn't mind trying it on for size, throw me on the list.

Done
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Ekaros on Sat, 02 October 2010, 15:58:08: Quote from: darkblader;228996
it isnt even 100$ more here in germany the filco costs 150Euro The Topre 220Euro.

Even better/worse here in Finland. 154€ for my Filco Majestouch and variable Topre for 172€...

Now, do I need to test out, or go see one(if they have those out) once I get a car for week...
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: lam47 on Sat, 02 October 2010, 16:48:54: Quote from: SirClickAlot;228902
I got it from a fellow geekhacker who believes in the concept of open sink. When everything works out ok and the keyring will return to me because there are no more people on the sinklist I will reveal the name of the mystery do-gooder ;-)

And Yes : out of all the keyboards I have tried, the topre is my favorite ( the two boards I own also get a 10/10 rating on my site )

Regards.

So, can you buy them anywhere or was it a promotional item?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 03 October 2010, 09:11:13: Quote from: kishy;229067
Awesome, thanks.

I presume whoever is ahead of me will contact me for my address when the time comes?

Nope, I will contact you when your address is needed. What I would like to know of all participants is at least their location country. This way I can plan the trip a little more economically....

Visit this (http://www.mrinterface.com/sinklists) to see where the sinklist item is at....

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 03 October 2010, 09:12:54: Quote from: lam47;229085
So, can you buy them anywhere or was it a promotional item?

Nope,

This item can not be bought and was a promotional item. As far as I know it is very unique....

Here is more (http://www.keyboardporn.com/keycaps/topre-keychain/) info on it.

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: lam47 on Sun, 03 October 2010, 11:40:05: Thanks for the info.
No need to send it to me. I think its a lovely idea what you are doing though!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Arcanius on Fri, 15 October 2010, 15:47:15: I've been too shy to post on this forum, but I guess there's a first for everything.
That being said, I know this is a little bit of a late post, but is it possible to be added on the list? If you already have it traveling to Canada.... :)

Great forum by the way, been loving it for the past couple of months!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 15 October 2010, 15:50:26: What? You're not going to let him even get to 10 posts first?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Arcanius on Fri, 15 October 2010, 16:03:19: Some (most?) Canadians don't consider Newfies Canadian.
But then again, I'm an immigrant (been over a decade though!), so I can't really comment on Newfoundlanders.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 15 October 2010, 16:38:02: Newfies have only been part of Canada since 1949, but they did such a heck of a good job in WW1 and WW2 that I'd call them fully Canadian (even if I cantundastand what they be talkin boot, bay).

Would be awesome to be part of the keychain's Canadian leg of the tour, although I'm sure it'll result in a pretty expensive purchase!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Fri, 15 October 2010, 16:54:20: I'm still waiting for the keychain guys. I assume the long distance voyage is the culprit.

I have purchased some postage already and will be sure to send it off with haste.

Also, the next person on the list is WhiteRice, and he's pretty close to me. Within the US travel should be brisk. In fact, I just checked the USPS calculator and any delivery to him should only be overnight, even if only mailed by stamp.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 15 October 2010, 16:59:39: Even in Canada we <3 USPS.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Fri, 15 October 2010, 17:01:04: Quote from: RickyJ;234411
Even in Canada we <3 USPS.

They charge significantly less brokerage & other fees than UPS/FedEx for packages from the US, right?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: RickyJ on Fri, 15 October 2010, 17:18:30: Depending on how the item is classified by the shipper, a small package can range from zero fees to just paying your province's tax. I've had new fuel injectors shipped to me as "warranty return" and paid nothing but the initial $7 USPS shipping charge. Canada Post isn't even that cheap for shipping within Canada. I've only ever heard of USPS or Canada Post charging brokerage for large items. Depending on where the item was manufactured there might be duty on it if the customs officer is having a bad day.

A few years ago, I bought a fuel rail and regulator for my car that was on sale in Oregon for $150usd. I told them to ship USPS, they confirmed, then shipped it UPS anyways. Cost me $60usd at the door, after paying $20usd to ship it. At the time, the exchange rate was complete balls, so in the end I was into it for almost $300cdn. Company that I bought it from wouldn't do a thing about it, not even store credit for the $60usd as a sorry.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 16 October 2010, 03:21:55: Quote from: Arcanius;234374
I've been too shy to post on this forum, but I guess there's a first for everything.
That being said, I know this is a little bit of a late post, but is it possible to be added on the list? If you already have it traveling to Canada.... :)

Great forum by the way, been loving it for the past couple of months!

Added (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keyring)...

I need to reshuffle the list due to the many canadians... *grin*
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: elservo on Sat, 16 October 2010, 03:41:35: Hate to be a pessimist here, but I don't think it will finish its journey around the Geekhack landscape. Somebody always flakes out during something like this.

That said, I really hope everyone proves me wrong. I would like nothing better than to be wrong.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 16 October 2010, 05:32:04: “It's better to be an optimist who is sometimes wrong than a pessimist who is always right”

The people on the this first sinklist will gain credibility points and after participation will increase their chances on being added to the next sinklist (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-stb-switch-try-board)( 3x3 switch try board )

People who have proven to be untrustworthy will be banned from any future sinklists( of course )

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Arcanius on Sat, 16 October 2010, 10:20:54: It would be sad if somebody stole this thing.
Society should be built on trustworthy people with enough respect and trustworthiness that they won't steal an item, no matter the price. But the current education and wage systems prevent this from happening.
/anti-capitalist rant
The switch try board sounds great! When can I sign up? :P
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 16 October 2010, 12:30:59: Quote from: Arcanius
It would be sad if somebody stole this thing.
Society should be built on trustworthy people with enough respect and trustworthiness that they won't steal an item, no matter the price. But the current education and wage systems prevent this from happening.
/anti-capitalist rant

Actually, human nature is what prevents that from happening.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Arcanius on Sat, 16 October 2010, 18:29:20: No, I believe that human nature is what we grow up with. Look at statistics.
I believe people steal things because they can make money with them. Why steal when (in a communist or anarchist society) you can get that thing for free?
This is going off topic.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sat, 16 October 2010, 18:44:11: Well, I can promise you that I won't steal this.

It just didn't arrive before I went on vacation for this past week. If all is well, it'll be in my mailbox when I get back tomorrow, outbound on Monday, in Whiterice's mailbox Tuesday.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 17 October 2010, 08:53:03: Quote from: Arcanius
No, I believe that human nature is what we grow up with. Look at statistics.
I believe people steal things because they can make money with them. Why steal when (in a communist or anarchist society) you can get that thing for free?

Because everyone is different and everyone grows up differently. Some are inclined to steal, others aren't. Hell, some people even like to steal. Communism and anarchism tend to assume that everyone is pretty much the same. Not really realistic in any way.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Arcanius on Sun, 17 October 2010, 09:26:52: We don't assume that. We just say that people won't have any need to steal in a Communist/Anarchist society, simply because they don't gain anything from it. People nowadays are swayed by advertising, and they want to be on top, because they see the inequalities in life today. Most petty crimes are eliminated because there is nothing to gain. Why steal from your neighbor when you can walk into a store and take it from there?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:01:28: Most people are pretty honest with people they know. Only the real jerks piss off people they have to rub shoulders with every day.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:11:47: Quote from: Rajagra;235201
Most people are pretty honest with people they know. Only the real jerks piss off people they have to rub shoulders with every day.
Look at what happen to Caesar...
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: sealcouch on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:17:17: I might like to try me sum'a dat topre.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:23:00: Keychain arrived here. I'll send it out to Whiterice tomorrow and he should have it on Tuesday (if the Postal Service time in transit calculator is right). However it may be Wednesday (depends on the day, but going a state over usually doesn't take two days).

Initial impressions: Strongly tempted to begin saving for a Realforce.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:30:18: Quote from: Arcanius
We don't assume that. We just say that people won't have any need to steal in a Communist/Anarchist society, simply because they don't gain anything from it. People nowadays are swayed by advertising, and they want to be on top, because they see the inequalities in life today. Most petty crimes are eliminated because there is nothing to gain. Why steal from your neighbor when you can walk into a store and take it from there?

That sounds like a nice fantasy dream. Good luck with that playing out in the real world where there are, always have been, and alway will be inequalities, no matter what the government structure. When inequalities don't exist, is when everyone will be the same. This idea is contrary to the concept of what it is to be human. To be human is to want, to feel, to think, etc. differently from other people. Even if people don't benefit from stealing, they'll do it just because they can, or because they're bored, or for whatever other n amount of reasons they come up with. They'll also continue to be violent and kill just as people do today. Communism and anarchism solve nothing and their inherent design is dehumanizing.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:35:19: Haha, gotta love the human nature discussion.

It scared me into spending $4.80 to get Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation instead of just slapping $1.08 of First Class stamps on it.

WhiteRice, you should get an email when the USPS scans it for shipment.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:35:44: I guess one thing in everyone's favour is that if it DOES go missing, the last GH'er to send it along will have the jerk's address. New rule, no PO boxes?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sun, 17 October 2010, 14:40:34: Quote from: RickyJ;235216
I guess one thing in everyone's favour is that if it DOES go missing, the last GH'er to send it along will have the jerk's address. New rule, no PO boxes?

Too late for that, I got it at a box. Don't worry though, I have no intention of stealing it. I already paid for postage:

(http://imgur.com/ptlSe.png)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Sun, 17 October 2010, 15:51:56: I get the next address from Mr. Interface?
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sun, 17 October 2010, 16:07:48: Yeah. I got yours from him.

Package is in the nearest USPS box but it won't be picked up from there until sometime around 5PM tomorrow.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: sealcouch on Sun, 17 October 2010, 16:09:27: Put me down if it's not to late.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Mon, 18 October 2010, 02:29:51: Quote from: sealcouch;235247
Put me down if it's not to late.

You are added. Last on the list within the US.

Most of you I sent an email with the question to send me your full address. I will make sure that the one preceding your name on the sinklist (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keyring) will receive it.

In the future I will leave more control to the individual sinklist members : this means that you will ask the person next in the list for his/her address. This leaves more time available for me to do other stuff. ( Like making a keyboard videoguide (http://www.mrinterface.com/guides) *grin* )

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Mon, 18 October 2010, 19:11:42: Finally started moving. I got worried that I'd get the one post office worker that was a keyboard nut and he'd get the good feeling of oneness with cup rubber through the package and abscond with the keychain.

(http://imgur.com/nba4a.png)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Mon, 18 October 2010, 19:48:56: Quote from: kishy;235704
What website is that? Surely not USPS's in-house tracking site...

PackageTrackr.com
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: elservo on Mon, 18 October 2010, 20:29:06: I'll go on the list just so that I can take it to the Ocean City Pier for a sweet photo-op.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 19 October 2010, 02:24:34: Quote from: elservo;235720
I'll go on the list just so that I can take it to the Ocean City Pier for a sweet photo-op.

You want to get on? Send me your address via PM... :-)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: iMav on Tue, 19 October 2010, 10:17:32: There should be a picture thread for this and everyone post a picture of them with the keychain. (or perhaps the keychain with a locally-significant landmark)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 19 October 2010, 10:37:02: Quote from: iMav;235942
There should be a picture thread for this and everyone post a picture of them with the keychain. (or perhaps the keychain with a locally-significant landmark)

Excellent idea.

I might even make it mandatory for participants to do this and put it on the rules of the accompanying buddysheet...

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 19 October 2010, 14:37:51: I was planning on doing this, I think it's a fun idea!
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Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Tue, 19 October 2010, 14:40:04: Quote from: WhiteRice;236045
I was planning on doing this, I think it's a fun idea!

Great idea! I would have done it, except I already shipped it to Whiterice.

Maybe you guys can just photoshop me holding it.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Wed, 20 October 2010, 05:09:57: Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;236049
Great idea! I would have done it, except I already shipped it to Whiterice.

Maybe you guys can just photoshop me holding it.

I can always re-route it towards you... Seems only fair ;-)

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Wed, 20 October 2010, 16:00:48: WhiteRice, can you confirm receipt?
(http://imgur.com/dWaDh.png)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Wed, 20 October 2010, 18:57:54: Got it!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Thu, 21 October 2010, 03:10:52: Quote from: WhiteRice;236559
Got it!

If I did my administration right you also have the address of the next in line. Celery is next.

Enjoy the Topre Switch!

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: celery on Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:52:57: Getting excited here :O
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:53:54: I'll get it out Friday! Busy with work and stuff!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: celery on Thu, 21 October 2010, 14:58:22: No problem, take your time. I'll just sit here.

And compulsively refresh this thread.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Thu, 21 October 2010, 15:47:04: Don't forget to post pictures! ( Open a new thread in the pictures section called : Topre Keychain Worldtrip Pictures )

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: WhiteRice on Sun, 24 October 2010, 11:11:07: Hey guys I will be shipping the key out tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. In the meantime enjoy the view of downtown Manhattan.

(http://zachwang.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/IMG_0132.jpg)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sun, 24 October 2010, 11:16:53: Nice shot! You should add it to Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40%C2%B0+43%27+01%22N,+74%C2%B0+1%27+48%22W&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=40.717093,-74.031573&spn=0.001344,0.004128&z=19), although most people probably wouldn't get the point of the keychain.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 24 October 2010, 13:33:14: Quote from: WhiteRice;237985
Hey guys I will be shipping the key out tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. In the meantime enjoy the view of downtown Manhattan.

Show Image
(http://zachwang.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/IMG_0132.jpg)

Very cool! Thanx for the picture! :-)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 24 October 2010, 13:35:21: Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;237988
although most people probably wouldn't get the point of the keychain.

Yeps, that's the whole point... To get them interested.... :-)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: VentiLator on Sun, 24 October 2010, 14:13:32: is it too late for a european to jump in?

i've never even seen a topre/realforce in real life :P
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 24 October 2010, 14:18:42: Quote from: VentiLator;238101
is it too late for a european to jump in?

i've never even seen a topre/realforce in real life :P

It's never too late to join the topre keychain sinklist.

Welcome to the list. You are the third european.... Just PM me your full address.

Also for those interested in other opensink projects I started : here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12313)

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Ekaros on Tue, 26 October 2010, 17:50:19: Got to test, Topre's variable realforce, not write on it, but feel it(those guys had cutted part of wire away in shop...), it's kinda weird and you can feel the difference between keys(the difference in a,s,d,f and modifiers...), but for me it wasn't too special. I have to learn to touch type first and then try it realy out...
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Post by: WhiteRice on Tue, 26 October 2010, 18:19:06: Btw I mailed it out first class mail on Monday.
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Post by: squarebox on Wed, 27 October 2010, 08:15:07: I would like to join the topre keychain sinklist!
I will meet other local keyboard enthusiast to share the experience. Will do the same for the Switch Try Board.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Wed, 27 October 2010, 09:05:43: Quote from: squarebox;239322
I would like to join the topre keychain sinklist!
I will meet other local keyboard enthusiast to share the experience. Will do the same for the Switch Try Board.

You're on ....
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Post by: celery on Fri, 29 October 2010, 14:57:07: Got it today--thanks! Will post some pictures and send it out Monday.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 31 October 2010, 09:46:03: Quote from: kishy;240613
Am I currently next on the list? I got a Canada Post notice saying someone requested I sign for the package at the post office (not that they attempted to deliver and I wasn't here, but that the sender specifically said not to deliver to my door).

If the previous person sent it on in this way, that'd be it and I'll try to get it Tuesday. If not there's a very good chance I'll have them return it at sender's expense.

Kishy,

It's not your turn yet (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keyring) :-)

It is safe to say the package at the post office is NOT the keychain.

Patience....

Regards.
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Post by: celery on Wed, 03 November 2010, 02:07:32: By the way, I did send it out on Monday. Will get to posting pictures, but they're not much to look at...
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Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 03 November 2010, 12:39:53: How are people sending this along? Basic letter envelope? Padded? Looking at the list, I'll be sending it along to somewhere in Europe so I might need to plan for international shenanigans.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Wed, 03 November 2010, 13:49:21: Bubble plastic is good enough. The switch itself is very sturdy...

Regards

Quote from: RickyJ;242162
How are people sending this along? Basic letter envelope? Padded? Looking at the list, I'll be sending it along to somewhere in Europe so I might need to plan for international shenanigans.
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Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Wed, 03 November 2010, 16:44:13: It's arrived to me.

I like it... But it doesn't feel *fantasticamazing*. Like a smoother, heavier Cherry MX brown. It is quite nice, and I would like to have a board with Topres now, but I don't think I'd be willing to pay $300 for it. $150 maybe?

I have too many errands tomorrow, I'll mail it along on Friday.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Thu, 04 November 2010, 02:41:51: Quote from: Phaedrus2129;242253
It's arrived to me.

I like it... But it doesn't feel *fantasticamazing*. Like a smoother, heavier Cherry MX brown. It is quite nice, and I would like to have a board with Topres now, but I don't think I'd be willing to pay $300 for it. $150 maybe?

I have too many errands tomorrow, I'll mail it along on Friday.

Good to see it arrived in one piece and you like it...

Don't 4get to make a nice pic!:-)

Regards.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 12 November 2010, 09:19:47: Quote from: Phaedrus2129;242253

I have too many errands tomorrow, I'll mail it along on Friday.

Any news? Has it been mailed on that friday? NamelessPFG is next on the list.

Regards.
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Post by: NamelessPFG on Fri, 12 November 2010, 14:10:35: I just got the keychain.

The response is much as I expected, with a rubber dome delivering most of the tactility...but smoother going through the buckle point, and with said buckle point being higher along the travel to begin with compared to a typical rubber dome keyswitch. In any case, the transition definitely lacks the exactness of a buckling spring.

It's also very quiet. Might be a good choice for a portable board (though I want a full keyboard with numpad/tenkeys, not a HHKB) because of that, given how I already get stares when hammering things out on my E-295C's usual scissor switch + dome board.

Of course, this keychain can't tell me the actual electrical engage/release, and I'm not so sure that I want to drop $245 on a Realforce 103UB to find out.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 12 November 2010, 14:41:12: I paid close to $200 for each of mine. Sales, specials, eBay and EK b stock give you the best bang for your buck with Realforce.
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Post by: NamelessPFG on Tue, 23 November 2010, 22:36:45: Whoops, forgot to mention-finally got it shipped out yesterday. (College work's been piling up...)

Priority Mail, so it should be 2 or 3 days, but with Thanksgiving on Thursday, who knows?
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Wed, 24 November 2010, 01:36:02: No pictures?....
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Post by: NamelessPFG on Wed, 24 November 2010, 10:30:18: Sorry, I didn't think to take any. I just don't know of any interesting environments around here to have in the background.

That, or you could've had the keychain next to my two Model Ms, which didn't seem that interesting to me.
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Post by: CodeChef on Mon, 06 December 2010, 08:27:12: So, any word on if Jnsjr has gotten it or anything like that?
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Mon, 06 December 2010, 08:32:18: I contacted jnsjr and he said he'll post it monday or tuesday....

Took a bit longer than expected.

Next in line : Sealcouch.

Regards.
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Post by: jnsjr on Tue, 07 December 2010, 00:17:41: Sorry for the delay! It's going out first thing after my exam tomorrow. Civil Procedure =/
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Post by: jnsjr on Thu, 09 December 2010, 02:17:28: So after playing with the Topre switch for a while I have a few general observations.

1 - It's so much quieter then both my bs and blue cherry keyboards. It is gf approved. Despite the difference, the audible feedback when you press it down is very satisfying. I can't really explain it.

2 - Switch feel is awesome. I will definitely be purchasing one of these when I can. It's a great departure from my bs and blue cherry.

3- The key looks even better in person. I am not really a fan of the black on black. I have a white unicomp spacesaver and was really thinking of getting a white 103u or hhkb2, but this has made me rethink it. Very very sharp.

Now on to the blurry cellphone pics!

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2521/toprekeychain2.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/toprekeychain2.jpg/)

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3955/toprekeychain3.jpg)
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Post by: jnsjr on Sat, 11 December 2010, 00:04:10: gotta love UPS

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8638/upsgeekhackapproved.png)
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Post by: WhiteRice on Sat, 11 December 2010, 00:48:14: Three most dangerous words...
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Post by: johnnysasaki on Sun, 12 December 2010, 07:25:18: Quote from: jnsjr;261166
gotta love UPS

Show Image
(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8638/upsgeekhackapproved.png)

I spy Naruto/ard.

Also, UPS has always been sloppy. I remember one time they decided it'd be a good idea to leave my BR disc from Amazon in an unsecured/locked maillbox without asking for a signature over the weekend. -_-
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Post by: sealcouch on Fri, 17 December 2010, 19:27:58: I just got my hands on it today. Neat little switch. It kinda feels like a rubber dome without the mush. I wasn't impressed with it honestly. I wouldn't spend more than like 120 dollars on a Topre board. I'm in love with my blue cherry board. I need my clickety-clacks.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 09 January 2011, 05:26:10: Somehow the current owner sealcouch doesn't repond to my mails? What's up with that?

:-(
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Post by: iMav on Sun, 09 January 2011, 07:33:34: Quote from: SirClickAlot;275616
Somehow the current owner sealcouch doesn't repond to my mails? What's up with that?

Just sent sealcouch an email on your behalf. I'll do the same for the current possessor of the try board.
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Post by: mooremanifestation on Thu, 13 January 2011, 00:03:42: I just got the switch today. To me it feels like a rubber dome, but with more subtlety and finesse.

With the ordinary rubber dome keyboards I have, the keys resist movement until I press hard enough, and then they transition all at once to fully down. Essentially, the tactile bump encompasses the entire travel of the keys.

The Topre feels as if it's using much thinner rubber. The tactile bump is near the top, but it's a small part of the key travel. There is a noticeable amount of key travel with light resistance above and below it, and the transition in and out of the bump is very smooth. Bottoming out feels like hitting a thin, firm rubber layer, maybe like the soft-touch backing on some cell phones. It's not a sharp stop, but definitely not squishy. Plus, it's eerily quiet, even making the other rubber domes seem a little noisy.
It's definitely not as stiff or snappy as the Alps switches on my Omnikey.

I was planning to get a board with Cherry browns first, use it for a while, see how I like it, and then think about maybe paying the premium price for a Topre switch board. After trying this switch, I can see the appeal, but it doesn't make me want to rush out and buy a Realforce or HHKB. If anything, it reaffirms my plans. I get the feeling that there's another switch out there that I would like better.

The black on charcoal colors look pretty slick, although with the dim lighting I like to keep in my office it may as well be blank.

Many thanks to SirClickAlot for this sink-list. I'll try to get some pics and send the switch along in the next few days.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Thu, 13 January 2011, 04:31:54: Yes, it finally arrived! GOOD!

Excellent description of your topre impression. Wish more sinklist members did this....

Regards.
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Post by: mooremanifestation on Mon, 17 January 2011, 17:55:27: I sent it off today. It should arrive Friday.

Here's a photo of it with a view of the 360 Bridge over Lake Austin. The downtown skyline is in the distance. With a better camera or a longer arm, maybe I could have had the key and the background in focus at the same time:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_29ViZ9hr6ws/TTTUzoShfeI/AAAAAAAAABE/fTAkKyH7Iz4/s640/2011-01-17_13-59-22_226.jpg)
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 18 January 2011, 12:30:30: Nice picture! :-)
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Post by: sealcouch on Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:48:00: Quote from: SirClickAlot;277785
Yes, it finally arrived! GOOD!

Excellent description of your topre impression. Wish more sinklist members did this....

Regards.

I'm sorry I didn't write a lot about it. I didn't feel it was deserving of anything more than a few sentences. It's really not that special.
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Post by: patrickgeekhack on Tue, 18 January 2011, 14:55:37: The problem with the keyring is that it does not give a good overall picture. This is essentially a case where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. One will never really get a good feeling of what a Topre keyboard feel like with just one key switch. For example, the keyring alone will not tell someone what a variable force Topre keyboard feel like.

That said, the keyring is the next best solution. I certainly appreciate all the efforts that went into getting this project going. SirClickAlot and the switch donor deserve a lot of credit for getting this project on the way.
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Post by: sealcouch on Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:06:10: But if there was a keyring with a cherry blue switch or a buckling spring switch I would be able to make a better write up about how it feels different. The topre just felt bland to me.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 18 January 2011, 15:40:01: Quote from: patrickgeekhack;280594
SirClickAlot and the switch donor deserve a lot of credit for getting this project on the way.

Thanx,

that switch donor would be sixty. Just so you guys know :-)

Regards.
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Post by: patrickgeekhack on Tue, 18 January 2011, 18:06:22: Quote from: sealcouch;280606
But if there was a keyring with a cherry blue switch or a buckling spring switch I would be able to make a better write up about how it feels different. The topre just felt bland to me.

I am not blaming you for finding the Topre keyring blend. I can see why some will find it blend given that some people have been disappointed with a whole Topre keyboard.
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Post by: CodeChef on Sun, 23 January 2011, 10:44:39: Well, I for one found it quite interesting. It's like, why didn't they make normal rubber domes like this? The world would be a better place if they did. The construction is really quite clever, and the feel is miles above regular rubber domes. Then again, that's all it is, a glorified rubber dome. It's sort of like buying a Ferrari. Sure, it's a Ferrari, but it's still a car. Mechanical keyboards are jet aircraft. And they're jet aircraft that are cheaper than Ferraris. They aren't for everyone, but if you like them and know how to use them they leave cars in the dust. That was my impression of the keychain. I'm going to the post office really soon, either tomorrow or Wednesday, so I'll send it out then. I'm going to ditch the big bulky box and wrap the whole thing in bubble wrap and put it in an envelope if that's OK with everyone. It would save on shipping (Flat Rate Envelope is 4.75 in the US and gets there in two days) and would be just as safe and secure.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Mon, 24 January 2011, 05:56:45: Yes, bubble wrapped in an envelope will be fine! :-)

Hint : Don't forget to also pack the accompanying buddysheet...
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Post by: commandercup on Wed, 02 February 2011, 15:58:27: I received the Topre Keychain today and I've been clicking it for a bit. I'm honestly not sure if I like it or not. It definitely is a huge improvement over a rubber dome, but it still feels rubber domey if that makes any sense.

Initially, I really like the resistance (from the spring?), but I grew to dislike it as it seemed somewhat counterintuitive for a key to resist being pressed as much as the topre did. I do however like the springy nature of the key as it springs back up quickly.

Most of what I said probably didn't make sense and I probably contradicted myself a few times, but I don't have much experience with keyboards.

Although I'd still love to try a full board, this single key hasn't swayed me from my Cherry MX Browns.
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Post by: kidchunks on Tue, 08 February 2011, 19:19:19: Just an update! I received the keychain today. Haven't had much time to do a comparison but had time to take a picture. I will compare and write something up tomorrow for sure.

(http://geekshelp.org/carlos/images/geekhack/sinklist1.JPG)
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Post by: kidchunks on Thu, 10 February 2011, 22:31:17: Here is my quick review(opinion..w,.e) on the Topre keychain! I compared it to a few rubber dome boards (one being a keytronic).

(http://geekshelp.org/carlos/images/geekhack/toprekey.jpg)

Compared to rubbers:
Topre key has a better feel to it overall than a rubber dome key. The mushy bottom out isn’t there, the key springs back up (although some reported they don’t feel it).
I’m not saying it’s the key to rule all other rubber domes. If you can find or have a decent rubber dome board, then you may have a hard time justifying the price tag of a topre board.

Compared to a cherry brown switch:
When compared to a brown switch, I still prefer the brown over Topre. Why?
-   Relatively cheap
-   Easier to obtain
-   Bigger variety of boards carrying the browns.
However, as far as bottoming out (I still do it from time to time). It’s a pleasure to do on a Topre key (soft landing). Plate mounted switches (even pcb) don’t feel well when bottoming out (hard landing).

Bottom line:
If you have the cash to fork out for a Topre board. Go for it! They have the best resell value when compared to most major cherry switch boards (filco, ducky, cherry, ect).

Will you buy a topre board now that you’ve tried the topre keychain?
Nope, thanks sirclickalot. You saved me $200. Actually no..cause that’s going to keycaps -_-
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 11 February 2011, 09:36:22: How about the feel compared to cherry mx when touch typing?
Does it have a quick bump like a rubber dome or more of a linear feel?
Do you have the same control over the actuation poin with a cherry switch or you need to buttom out on them?
Does it has the same springy feel as an mx switch or more like a rubber dome?
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 11 February 2011, 10:24:37: Quote from: RiGS;293362
How about the feel compared to cherry mx when touch typing?
Does it have a quick bump like a rubber dome or more of a linear feel?
Do you have the same control over the actuation poin with a cherry switch or you need to buttom out on them?
Does it has the same springy feel as an mx switch or more like a rubber dome?

I would think of it as a very light and smooth rubber dome with a little extra springiness. It has a similar force curve to a rubber dome, but it doesn't quite feel the same, and it certainly does not feel like a Cherry MX. Since Topres are capacitive, you do not need to bottom them out, and you should be able to ride the activation point, but since there is no contact involved in triggering the activation, the activation point might be a little nebulous (I don't game, so I haven't tested this). I would suggest that the Topre is more of a typists switch than a gamers switch, but gamers have been rubber doming it for years now, so that might not mean much.
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Post by: marco on Thu, 17 February 2011, 14:10:32: The keychain arrived the other day and have had a chance to mess with it. I currently use an IBM Space Saver II rubber dome on my Windows machine and I have a MacBook Pro for a laptop. So, I have been comparing it against those keyboards.

The Topre is quiet, silky smooth and provides a small bit of resistance where the IBM Space Saver II is harder to press and not as smooth. If the MacBook Pro had more travel in it's keys, I 'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between it and the Topre. I don't know, maybe I am too dense to tell the difference.

I am glad that I had a chance to try the Topre keychain. Would I buy it? I am not sure at this point. It certainly is smooth and quiet, but I would only say subtly better than my current keyboards. If I do purchase, I would definitely get the white version since I need to see the letters on the keys. The gray on black is way too hard for me to read.

Picture is attached from 6000ft above sea level in the mountains of Montana.
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Post by: Nadger on Wed, 23 February 2011, 19:37:39: Keychain arrived today, the topre switch is close to what i expected, but i guess i expected more of a tactile bump in it. It feels like a really high quality rubber dome, with smoother action. The tactile point seems to be the soft landing. It is indeed very quiet though.

I do like the keycap feel, maybe moreso than my POM noppoo keycaps. The topre feels a little more wobbly than my mx browns. I really like the repeat keypress feel of the Topre switch over the mx brown, but I like the stability and tactile feel of browns better.

Best way i can summarize the feel of it is smooth, soft, quiet, and dull... Not dull as in boring but dull as in a dull knife.

It is difficult to judge the typing experience from one single key, but i think i am happy I went with browns so far. The Topre switch feels good, but it just does not have the feedback i was hoping for. I may buy a topre down the road, but I think I am more interested in trying the clear and blue switches next, which wont be too much longer from now, the STB will arrive, and I can try out the other MX switches.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to test this fabled keyswitch!
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Post by: Nadger on Tue, 08 March 2011, 22:03:24: Should be arriving in canada soon, sent it out about a week ago.
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Post by: Nadger on Wed, 09 March 2011, 23:27:01: yeah they said around 6-9 working days to reach you.
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Post by: Nadger on Mon, 14 March 2011, 19:42:59: Nice, was getting worried, took it much longer than they said.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Wed, 16 March 2011, 03:56:03: Wow.

That's one of the biggest reviews I have seen regarding one single switch. :-)

Furthermore : I am eager to see your pic with your chosen landmark...

Thanx for sharing this Kishy.

Regards.
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Post by: db_Iodine on Wed, 16 March 2011, 04:56:01: It's really not for everyone. I don't think the landing on a Topre switch is harsh at all. And yes these switches do get bottomed out a lot, but so far I don't mind that. Actually bottoming out feels quite pleasant.
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Post by: sixty on Wed, 16 March 2011, 08:05:30: This keychain is the only way to experience the true Topre experience, when you did not pay $300 for it and are blinded by that. So glad I donated this back then. Keep the reviews coming!

Time to get the anti-topre-club back up here soon... where did lal ever disappear to?
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Post by: kidchunks on Wed, 16 March 2011, 08:36:56: Quote from: SirClickAlot;312554
Furthermore : I am eager to see your pic with your chosen landmark...

Aw didn't know we needed to take a picture using a land mark. My hand was the landmark. :tongue:

Quote from: db_Iodine;312568
Actually bottoming out feels quite pleasant.
I enjoyed bottoming out feel aswell. Miles ahead in pleasantness against a plate mounted / PCB cherry MX switch.

Quote from: sixty;312615
Time to get the anti-topre-club back up here soon... where did lal ever disappear to?

Still around, just keeping quiet so we don't get sniped! :biggrin:
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Wed, 16 March 2011, 08:47:10: Quote from: kidchunks;312627
Aw didn't know we needed to take a picture using a land mark. My hand was the landmark. :tongue:

I thought I put these instructions on the accompanying buddysheet, but for the Topre Switch I forgot :-)

Regards.
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Post by: Mr. Perfect on Thu, 17 March 2011, 15:49:38: I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but what weighting is this particular Topre switch?
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Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 17 March 2011, 16:02:46: I suspect that being mounted on a keychain is having some effect on feel, the Topre is the smoothest-to-bottom-out-on keyboard I've ever used.

The idea that it feels like a Model F is thoroughly bizarre.

Quote
This keychain is the only way to experience the true Topre experience, when you did not pay $300 for it and are blinded by that.

Now, I hate to blow my own trumpet, but I think getting an entire Topre keyboard for less than the price of a Filco gives me the most objective insight of anyone around :P
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 18 March 2011, 05:32:38: Thanx for the pics!
That ambassador bridge is huge!

Regards.
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 18 March 2011, 05:39:41: Quote from: Mr. Perfect;313482
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but what weighting is this particular Topre switch?

To my knowledge it is 45Grams. ( Sixty, can you confirm ? )

Regards.
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 18 March 2011, 06:22:45: Quote from: ch_123;313489
Now, I hate to blow my own trumpet, but I think getting an entire Topre keyboard for less than the price of a Filco gives me the most objective insight of anyone around :P

I also got it cheaper than the price of a Filco, and let me just say that I like the cherry switches over the Topre.

SirClickaLot, could you remove me from the Topre keychain sinklist?
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Fri, 18 March 2011, 08:08:00: Quote from: RiGS;313824

SirClickaLot, could you remove me from the Topre keychain sinklist?

Done....
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Post by: sixty on Fri, 18 March 2011, 09:09:09: Yes, its 45g
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Post by: Arcanius on Mon, 21 March 2011, 15:37:42: Received!
To sum it up, the key is very smooth, but it's really a dome. :P
Very spring, more so, I think, than my Model M.
It's like a springy, smooth, not very tactile, and heavenly rubber dome.
I really want a Realforce now.
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Post by: Arcanius on Tue, 29 March 2011, 17:14:07: Finally sent the chain yesterday. Should be at the next person in two or three business days. Sent with Xpresspost.
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Post by: RickyJ on Thu, 31 March 2011, 15:50:27: Quick delivery time, I got it last night!

I'll have more time to try it out tonight or tomorrow night, but my initial impressions are pretty good. Super silky smooth, even at extreme angles. Lighter than my favourite dome board (MS Digital Media KB 3000) that binds up at extreme angles and feels scratchy when pressed, though the tactile feedback profile feels very very similar. Interesting for sure!
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Post by: RickyJ on Sun, 03 April 2011, 21:01:58: So even after a couple days of trying it out and comparing to my MS dome board, it still just seems silkier and a bit lighter. I'd have to try out a full board for a bit to get a more complete feel for it of course.

Packaging up now to send to next GH'er.
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Post by: Mr. Perfect on Fri, 22 April 2011, 23:51:26: The keychain arrived today(please tell me you didn't spend $27CAD on shipping :eek: ). I'm not sure I can pass judgment yet, but just keep randomly pressing it.

When would the switch activate? Right after the cup gives way?
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Post by: SirClickAlot on Sat, 23 April 2011, 03:23:20: Quote from: Mr. Perfect;335963
When would the switch activate? Right after the cup gives way?

Yeps!
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Post by: foliolio on Thu, 19 May 2011, 07:44:37: Quote from: papachina;348433
You can be used for appreciation gifts to school students, customers.

Not sure I can agree to that... Unless it's like really hot female students/customers we are talking about here, in which case... Where do I sign?

Oh, and the Topre-Keychain is a neat idea as well!
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Post by: In Stereo! on Wed, 25 May 2011, 14:31:11: I'm stunned by the smoothness of the switch. Completly another thing copmared to the crispy GHSS, which I'm currently using.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: KRD on Fri, 03 June 2011, 08:53:58: Hey guys. I stepped in for EUR2, hope nobody minds.

This is a wonderful thing that you're doing and I'm very happy to be part of it. Got the package from In Stereo! this morning, but I'm only now getting ready to spend some quality time with the keychain. I don't have a huge amount of experience actually using mechanical keyboards (most notable would perhaps be my playing games on two Model M's yonks ago), but I've been lurking geekhack quite a bit and have a few enthusiast mates who have taken the plunge already.

For the time being, all I'll say is that the build quality of this thing, especially considering where it's been, feels solid for a single key and the black-on-grey print looks great. It surprised me a bit to see just how angled the front side of the keycap is, but I guess that's down to me being stuck on completely flat laptop keys for so long now. Hopefully that's going to change in the near future.

Oh, I have the address of the next one in line already, just so you know. Germany somewhere.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: BucklingSpring on Fri, 03 June 2011, 09:58:42: Does anyone keeps track of where it's been so far?

EDIT: Oups nevermind :-)
http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keyring (http://www.mrinterface.com/content/sinklist-topre-keyring)

Would be nice to make a Google Earth pin map for each locations (city only, to maintain confidentiality)
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: KRD on Mon, 13 June 2011, 09:47:52: Right then, I'll be sending it on its way to Germany sometime this week, sorry for hogging it for so long. I was hoping to be able to provide a photo of it hanging from a dragon's open jaws, but I've had a really busy last week and the weather has been too schizophrenic for me to want to take my DSLR with me for the whole day. Might still happen if I find the opportunity before packing it back up, but it won't be today.

Overall, the experience of playing around with the Topre switch has been illuminating. I was expecting a softer, mushier feel to it and even though I'm still not convinced that it bounces back up quite quickly enough for my liking, the 55g variant well might. The first priority remains getting my hands on a Filco with Cherry MX Browns because they just sound like a greal all-around switch. But after that, who knows if I wouldn't prefer the quiet Topres over MX Blues for late-night typing and in atmospheric games that (unlike the main game I play religiously) only require light use of the keyboard?

The cost of a Realforce (even compared to a Filco) shipped to Slovenia is a bit outrageous, though, so it'll definitely be a while before I have to make my mind up. First things first.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Zhuni on Wed, 15 June 2011, 10:55:12: Thinking about getting a Topre have requested I be added to the list!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: KRD on Mon, 20 June 2011, 18:21:01: Don't say I never took you anywhere, little keychain.

(http://www.shrani.si/t/1g/A9/25xXzYbc/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?1g/A9/25xXzYbc/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/t/24/dm/OpScuBu/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?24/dm/OpScuBu/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg)
(http://www.shrani.si/t/1Q/o4/EGFjU42/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?1Q/o4/EGFjU42/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/t/I/VL/1jiFRN40/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?I/VL/1jiFRN40/20110620-topre-keychain-.jpg)

Here's (http://koreanreddragon.shrani.si/?geekhack) the rest of the photos I took if anyone's curious, one of which has the city castle in the background on the hill. The bridge itself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Bridge) is a tiny thing, certainly compared to the one on the US/Canada border, but it's the best we have around here so it'll have to do. The dragon is in the coat of arms of our capital, there's two of them on each side. Awesome things, aren't they? They're also in the first photo you see when you open the Wikipedia article about dragons, that has to count for something.

Keychain's on the way to Germany now. Let us know when it arrives!
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 21 June 2011, 04:07:30: Beautiful dragons! Thanx for the pictures!

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Bilbin on Thu, 23 June 2011, 16:32:20: Oooooh, could I get this? :o
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: himynameisbunny on Thu, 23 June 2011, 19:27:48: Interested in trying it out also.

Located in Sydney, Australia.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Bilbin on Thu, 23 June 2011, 19:30:10: Check out this (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?15138-Introducing-the-Switch-Try-Bag), himynameisbunny.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Zhuni on Fri, 24 June 2011, 09:24:37: Please remove me from the list

Tried the switch today and love it.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: jumpfroggy on Fri, 24 June 2011, 12:35:42: Any idea when the keychain is going to be back in the US? I can't wait...
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: VentiLator on Sat, 25 June 2011, 14:44:29: i received it two days ago, greetings to slovenija :)

it feels very good, it's definitely more than "a very good rubberdome".
the amount of force to trigger the switch is just right, i can really see how it's a pleasure to write on these...

now i want a whole board :(

i will post some pics, later.

also thanks to MrInterface, this is pretty cool.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: jeyoung on Sat, 16 July 2011, 12:27:53: Thanks, VentiLator, for the nice chocolate additions; my other half enjoyed them and also sends her thanks.

Some may label my observations blasphemous, but they are the same I conveyed to a friend who tried to explain a Realforce to me.

The feel of the key is very close to that of my old IBM rubber-dome keyboard, right down to the sound made when the key is released. However, two things that are immediately obvious as being better on the Realforce key are the higher build quality and the lighter keypress.

So, I am glad to have had the chance to try the key (thanks, guys!) otherwise I would have kept wondering what it was like. I still want to buy a Realforce but think I can wait a bit longer since my current IBM keyboard is satisfactory. Maybe, Christmas will be a good occasion to get one.

Cheers.

PS: Keychain packed and ready to be shipped to the next person on the list.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: morethanless on Thu, 08 September 2011, 06:28:58: *Push*
No progress here. :confused: Do something :bump2: I guess I better :peep: now
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Thu, 08 September 2011, 07:09:01: PikachuDX sent it off to the next one last friday.....
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 13 December 2011, 03:25:01: Hi,

I'm sorry to say the Topre Keychain got lost in mail traffic.

If you know anybody willing to donate another one, please let me know so I can start this again.

This is the main reason why I want the sinklist items to be sent with tracking. :=(

Regards.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 06 March 2012, 06:30:04: Update :

Today my first home made Topre Switch Tester was created : here (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1718&p=36815#p36815).
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: Nunez on Tue, 06 March 2012, 07:03:55: Quote from: SirClickAlot;469489
Hi,

I'm sorry to say the Topre Keychain got lost in mail traffic.

If you know anybody willing to donate another one, please let me know so I can start this again.

This is the main reason why I want the sinklist items to be sent with tracking. :=(

Regards.
Aw that sucks.. If it starts again I'd be interested.
Title: Topre Keychain world trip....
Post by: SirClickAlot on Tue, 06 March 2012, 07:13:18: Quote from: Nunez;536762
Aw that sucks.. If it starts again I'd be interested.
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